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I wanna talk a little bit about "post-ingestive feedback"

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    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Post-ingestive feedback is a term coined by Fred Provenza, who conducted several experiments on nutrition throughout the late 20th century and probably this century too, idk. I'm just going to tell you about one though.

    Essentially, through previous experiments, the idea was postulated that animals/humans base their dietary preferences on what they need the most. To test this, Provenza made some sheep deficient in phosphorous. The idea was that they would prefer food based on the phosphorous content due to their lack of phosphorous.

    He gave them both coconut and maple flavored feed, which did not contain phosphorous. The sheep didn't care for it much, and did not really seem to prefer either one.

    The next step was to pump a phosphorous solution into the stomach of the sheep directly after feeding. This eliminated the variable of them preferring food which actually contained phosphorous, and created a scenario in which their association with phosphorous was with the smell/taste of the food itself, and not an association with the actual taste of phosphorous.

    The sheep who pumped after being fed coconut feed, preferred the coconut feed. Those that were pumped after eating maple feed, tended to prefer the maple feed. They were associating the smell and taste of coconut or maple with a food that was rich in phosphorous.

    Eventually the sheep were no longer deficient, and they went back to having no preference.

    He tried this experiment with calicum and protein, and the results were the same. The sheep preferred whatever flavor of food they associated with actual nutritional value.

    Similar experiments have been conducted on humans, and have turned out the same. We base our preferences off of foods that have nutritional value. Now this doesn't mean "healthy food" it simply means stuff that has what our body needs. If you are deficient in vitamin C and you have already associated oranges with receiving an influx of vitamin C, you will crave oranges, and so on and so forth.

    The problem for humans lie in the inability of our bodies to know when to stop eating certain things. Mainly, fats and sugars, which were such a rarity for pre-civilization humans that we crave it uncontrollably. Back then, we were used to eating to survive. All that extra energy, and all those calories, was incredibly beneficial to stock up on.

    This obviously hasn't translated well into the 21st century, and now we are dealing with obesity because our post-ingestive feedback is based on unhealthy things. Our bodies want to stock up on carbs when we are not deficient, and food manufacturers know exactly what chemical triggers to fire off in order to tap into those cravings. Almost everything nowadays is flavored. Even the raw, "natural" meat in the stores has this flavoring. All the "natural" in "natural flavoring" means is that it originated from a natural source. It does not actually mean that this substance was found and extracted in nature.

    Understanding this link is really important, because it helps you to better understand the patterns and reasons that you crave certain foods. Your body is telling you that you need to eat another jelly donut, but you don't really need it. It's an active battle, and in order to win this battle, you need to train your body into craving foods that are actually good for you. If you eat an apple every time you crave sugar, you will soon begin to crave apples instead of sugar frosted donuts, or other carbs.

    I'm not saying that you shouldn't eat these things, I'm just saying that we shouldn't be eating as much as our body tells us to. Fat people can really get stuck in a loop on this one because their bodies are so accustomed to eating very high fat/sugar diets that it's a hell of a cycle to break. They crave these foods so much more than people who are not fat, because their brains have made the association that these are the foods to go to when they are in need of fat/sugar, and like I said earlier, humans are ALWAYS "in need" of fat and sugar.

    I've been eating considerably less sugar and carbs for like the past year+, and I can say that a lot of the cravings really do go away. It used to be such a struggle for me to eat healthy. I was never overweight (probably should've been) but I would still feel like shit from eating too much sugar, or too many carbs. I still take lots of fats everyday (dat DHA and EPA) but they're the right kind of fats, and not the oily nastiness that you'll find in a frozen strip of Tyson breaded chicken tenders, or in a carton of McDonald's french fries.

    I want to switch to eating sardines or something for my daily fat value, but I don't know if I can stomach them.

    Anyway, /thread.
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    CandyRein Black Hole
    Porque, Porky?
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    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Don't fuck up my thread with your nigger shit.
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    CandyRein Black Hole
    Let the hate flow through you, Santiago ...

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    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Originally posted by GGG Don't fuck up my thread with your nigger shit.

    And you know how they found this thread? Latest Threads. I rest my case.

    *leaves*
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    CandyRein Black Hole
    Nil you just playing captain save a hoe.. that sounded like a woman’s post too lol fagg
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    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Originally posted by Nil And you know how they found this thread? Latest Threads. I rest my case.

    *leaves*

    Good point, but the forum would still be dead as fuck since nobody wants to actually discuss topics like this. That's why I never post them. I used to have tons of educational animal threads and stuff.

    I wouldn't mind a "serious topics only" subforum with perhaps a whitelist (wites only) of people who are actually going to engage in serious conversation.

    There was actually way more stuff being discussed before DH came around and started shitting up the forum. You'll notice they don't actually talk about anything substantial, they just talk to each other like they're texting or some shit. Garbage sub human shit niggers, they are.
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    CandyRein Black Hole
    This gay chit.. good night lmfao
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    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    That post was meta, and a decent way of proving a point

    The OP obviously has effort put in, a "decent thread" I'm sure regardless of your personal feelings about §m£ÂgØL even you yourself wold admit that. I was making a point in the wrong place, you are just polluting this place.
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    CandyRein Black Hole
    Blah mother fuqn blah.. you don’t come in saying that chit when he does it to me in threads people put effort in STFU

    ball holding simp
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    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    https://niggasin.space/user/4853/threads

    Your first post was inane garbage, and I wasn't "defending" anything just illustrating a point we had a minor disagreement about. STFU.
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    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Originally posted by Nil That post was meta, and a decent way of proving a point

    The OP obviously has effort put in, a "decent thread" I'm sure regardless of your personal feelings about §m£ÂgØL even you yourself wold admit that. I was making a point in the wrong place, you are just polluting this place.

    I'm glad you thought so. I was worried it was a little convoluted.

    Been reading "The Dorito Effect" and it reminded me of Provenza's studies so I wanted to share since I think it's actually an interesting topic. Not a lot of people are aware that your body actually craves foods based on nutritional requirements. Really changes the way you see food and well, cravings in general.
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    CandyRein Black Hole
    My first post?

    On niggas in space.. I didn’t even know what the site was..

    You act like you’re someone special bitch plz

    Hopp off with that bullchit lol
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    DontTellEm Black Hole
    Originally posted by Nil https://niggasin.space/user/4853/threads

    Your first post was inane garbage, and I wasn't "defending" anything just illustrating a point we had a minor disagreement about. STFU.

    Lol we literally came in together on our first posts. No fucks given... Check it small fry.
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  15. #15
    CandyRein Black Hole
    Babby!😂😂😂❤️

    I’ll never forget it too 😋😂
    Chit was hilarious
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    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Originally posted by CandyRein My first post?

    On niggas in space.. I didn’t even know what the site was..

    You act like you’re someone special bitch plz

    Hopp off with that bullchit lol


    I'm not Spec, but I do care a bit about this place. It's &T torchbearer and as such we should strive to be better posters, contribute more than just stupid inane bullshit. We don't have mods so we need to police ourselves. Not that you care, DH scum.
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    CandyRein Black Hole
    Nigga are you dumb?
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  18. #18
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    On topic, what is your diet like, Nil?
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    DontTellEm Black Hole
    Like we on some conspiracy bullshit. Rofl. Imagine that feeling when ur not that smart.
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  20. #20
    CandyRein Black Hole
    Yeah.. stick to some chit you know lol another nigga mouth
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