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If you could make $100,000 from a crime, would you?
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2019-02-26 at 7:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Lol okay, how would you launder the money then? Because usually the people who do this are dealing with millions, not a single income of 100k. They set up business so they can run it through as regular income over a long period of time. You can't really do that with 100k unless you've already got a business.
With 100k you may as well just buy a bunch of Amazon gift cards and sell them/use them for groceries/other items.
You could start going to a casino.
And I dont understand how buying/reselling Amazon cards will help you in any way.
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2019-02-26 at 7:40 AM UTCYou can buy amazon gift cards with BTC so that you've got something which retains a static value. There are probably other places you could spend the BTC directly. It's not really a good way to launder money though. It would take years and is really only good to have some extra cash. You're not going to be able to buy property or cars very easily. That's why I said you may as well use it on groceries and computers and whatever the fuck else you might want/need. Or sell the stuff you buy. Whatever, but it's still going to be really annoying to do if you're trying to buy something big.
At a casino you still have to get it into cash somehow first. -
2019-02-26 at 8:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by GGG You can buy amazon gift cards with BTC so that you've got something which retains a static value. There are probably other places you could spend the BTC directly. It's not really a good way to launder money though. It would take years and is really only good to have some extra cash. You're not going to be able to buy property or cars very easily. That's why I said you may as well use it on groceries and computers and whatever the fuck else you might want/need. Or sell the stuff you buy. Whatever, but it's still going to be really annoying to do if you're trying to buy something big.
At a casino you still have to get it into cash somehow first.
is this a problem with btc? I know nothing of btc. -
2019-02-26 at 8:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by Misguided Russian well assuming the money is clean, yeah, you could invest it. you wouldnt buy a $40k car without laundering the money either tho.
But assuming you already live alright and all your bills are taken care of, why not upgrade a car? Doesn't have to be an unreliable audi or something. 100k is not enough to buy a house or anything.
you've already got a legit source of income; best plan is probably to cash out and use the 'dirty' money for general day-to-day stuff over the next few years. You can save or invest or whatever your entire regular income - it's not like you could retire on 100k anyway -
2019-02-26 at 8:50 AM UTC^that, you can easily replace 100k of expenses that you usually pay from legitimate income with cash transactions over a couple years. Food, gas, rent, etc. You might even be able to pay down a credit card bill with cash, I'm not sure.
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2019-02-26 at 8:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny ^that, you can easily replace 100k of expenses that you usually pay from legitimate income with cash transactions over a couple years. Food, gas, rent, etc. You might even be able to pay down a credit card bill with cash, I'm not sure.
you wouldn't put dirty money in the atm, and most places don't accept cash for rent.
I don't think that it would be smart to replace daily expenses with the dirty money entirely though. Thats one random audit away from them seeing that you have no expenses. -
2019-02-26 at 9:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by Misguided Russian is this a problem with btc? I know nothing of btc.
When you withdraw btc at the atm in most places you need an account with a company that will report your income to the IRS.
Otherwise you're just depositing it directly into an account which is dumb.
Could probably fudge some 1099 shitz if you had someone to help tho. This way you can take out more at a time. You'd pay that premium 15% tax but you can also do a schedule c 1040 and get some deductions done for it if you wanna like, idk, buy a computer or tools or some shit. I mean it won't help a lot but its good if you're gonna buy that stuff anyway. -
2019-02-26 at 10:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by Misguided Russian you wouldn't put dirty money in the atm, and most places don't accept cash for rent.
I don't think that it would be smart to replace daily expenses with the dirty money entirely though. Thats one random audit away from them seeing that you have no expenses.
As a wage earning citizen, not a business, auditors don't really look at your expenses. It's not like a business where they count against the taxable net, you pay tax on income before you spend it. Where your income goes after your taxes are paid, auditors don't really care. -
2019-02-26 at 11:28 AM UTCIf you're going to get 10 years for the crime, then you would multiply your potential income as a law-abiding citizen for the next 10 years, then subtract your illicit take from that. If you come up with anything less than one dollar, you're wasting your time.
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2019-02-26 at 1:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL If you're going to get 10 years for the crime, then you would multiply your potential income as a law-abiding citizen for the next 10 years, then subtract your illicit take from that. If you come up with anything less than one dollar, you're wasting your time.
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2019-02-26 at 2 PM UTCEven a million dollars is not near what it once was. These days, that kind of money can be spent faster than you would think. To risk a decade of your life in jail for even a million would be stupid. Now, if it were 10 million, that would be worth thinking about.
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2019-02-26 at 5:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Lol okay, how would you launder the money then? Because usually the people who do this are dealing with millions, not a single income of 100k. They set up business so they can run it through as regular income over a long period of time. You can't really do that with 100k unless you've already got a business.
With 100k you may as well just buy a bunch of Amazon gift cards and sell them/use them for groceries/other items.
poor people who never had 100ks.
a hundred k is really easy to launder provided that you arent lazy. just invest in things like Bill Krozbydog food stand business and you can easily "earn" a few hundred dollars of income a day. and in a year you'd have earned yourself a clean 100k and more assuming people actually buy foods from you. -
2019-02-26 at 5:11 PM UTC
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2019-02-26 at 8:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny ^that, you can easily replace 100k of expenses that you usually pay from legitimate income with cash transactions over a couple years. Food, gas, rent, etc. You might even be able to pay down a credit card bill with cash, I'm not sure.
Unless you already don't pay for those things.
$100k to launder would be easy overtime.
The crime. Non-violent. Not federal. Risk points would likely result in misdemeanor charges. Victims would be hit minor but with a large amount of victims. -
2019-02-26 at 8:51 PM UTC
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2019-02-26 at 8:52 PM UTCJust buy a failing strip club.
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2019-02-26 at 8:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny poor people who never had 100ks.
a hundred k is really easy to launder provided that you arent lazy. just invest in things like Bill Krozbydog food stand business and you can easily "earn" a few hundred dollars of income a day. and in a year you'd have earned yourself a clean 100k and more assuming people actually buy foods from you.
This nigga would open a hot dog stand lol -
2019-02-26 at 8:56 PM UTC
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2019-02-26 at 8:57 PM UTC
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2019-02-26 at 8:58 PM UTCEvery man can make a hot dog stand.