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Putin: Foreign interference in Venezuela's internal affairs violates international law
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2019-01-25 at 8:51 PM UTC
Russia’s president pledged his support for the elected government of Venezuela during a phone call with President Nicolas Maduro. He also criticized the “destructive external meddling” to which the country has been exposed.
https://www.rt.com/news/449630-putin-foreign-interference-in-venezuela/
So they decide to nationalize the oil industry. Despite what else may be going on there, the main thing is they nationalized their oil industry. When Iran decided to do this so that the Iranian people could keep more of the profits from the oil and stop getting ripped off so much by the British, British intel sent the CIA to overthrow Iran's first and only ever democratically elected leader, Mohammad Mossadegh, and replaced him with the Shah of Iran.
So much for the US being a bastion of freedom and democracy.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-01-25 at 9:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers So much for the US being a bastion of freedom and democracy.
It's funny that you actually believed that...freedom doesn't exist...anywhere. If it did I could rape my neighbors wife and goats without any legal consequences or shoot an annoying road rager....freedom within the confines of the law, isn't freedom. -
2019-01-25 at 9:30 PM UTCMaduro wants all the pussy to himself. Fuck socialism.
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2019-01-25 at 10:34 PM UTC
Russia sends 'around 400' mercenaries to Venezuela to protect President Maduro as US diplomats and their families flee the country
US diplomats headed for airport amid power struggle between President Maduro and opposition leader
Juan Guaido declared himself interim President before slipping away amid speculation he would be arrested
Trump recognised him as leader and threatened military action but the Kremlin has stood by Nicolas Maduro
US President has openly mused about military intervention in Venezuela, saying 'all options are on the table'
Top military chiefs have expressed loyalty to Maduro who was re-elected in disputed poll in May last year
Tens of thousands of demonstrators gathered in Caracas and around the country during protests this week
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6631257/Trump-warns-options-table-force-Venezuelas-President-Maduro-power.html
World war 3? Naaah, but it could be fun -
2019-01-25 at 11 PM UTCAhhh, this may be one of the real reasons the commie globalist CIA is meddling in Venezuela's affairs:
https://www.google.com/search?q=venezuelan+women&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC4N3Fg4rgAhXKmq0KHY5PBcoQ_AUIDigB
Jesus...... They're going to be bringing a bunch of fine women over here. They're fine, they're already used to prostitution and machismo, so the CIA is looking to make a profit off them and the democrats(CIA) get free votes -
2019-01-25 at 11:09 PM UTCVenezuela is rapidly devolving into the storyline from Mercenaries 2: World in Flames
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2019-01-28 at 4:20 PM UTCWe better hurry up and get that wall built because when that civil war breaks out they'll be a comin...
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2019-01-28 at 4:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers https://www.rt.com/news/449630-putin-foreign-interference-in-venezuela/
So they decide to nationalize the oil industry. Despite what else may be going on there, the main thing is they nationalized their oil industry.
The other thing is the 'socialism doesn't work' meme. It has to (be made to) fail, otherwise more countries start to take up similar policies and the current state of the 'world economy' begins to fray even faster -
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2019-01-28 at 6:32 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-01-29 at 6:20 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny socialism can coexist with world economy perfectly fine.
Why do you think the US has had such a rage boner for communism since it became a world power? Behind all the ideological posturing and virtue signaling (socialism is making even day-to-day items too expensive for Venezuelans! *continues to pile on sanctions and trade embargoes*), the real reason is simply that state industries have the potential to be much cheaper and more efficient than capitalist enterprises. If a stable communist or socialist country were to emerge, it would be extremely difficult if not impossible for non-state enterprises to compete.
Modern China's becoming a good example - the US has already indicated that it's becoming difficult to compete in the tech sector because of the Chinese government's financial and policy support. There's no real competition for Huawei's 5G tech so it's being stifled politically rather than through economic competition.
Russian military's another good one - while it's true that the US military (in terms of force strength) is still far ahead, Russia spends roughly 1/10th as much as the US and is still generations ahead in several important areas like missile and ECM tech. This is largely because the Russian military-industrial complex is state-owned and far less prone to the absurd gouging and exploitation that goes on in the US military contracting system.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-01-29 at 6:52 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Why do you think the US has had such a rage boner for communism since it became a world power? Behind all the ideological posturing and virtue signaling (socialism is making even day-to-day items too expensive for Venezuelans! *continues to pile on sanctions and trade embargoes*), the real reason is simply that state industries have the potential to be much cheaper and more efficient than capitalist enterprises. If a stable communist or socialist country were to emerge, it would be extremely difficult if not impossible for non-state enterprises to compete.
provided the people in charge of administering a socialistic / communistic country is immune to corruption and self gratification, socialism/communism has a lot of potential in a free economy.
governmemt throttled market economy can be a good thing.Modern China's becoming a good example - the US has already indicated that it's becoming difficult to compete in the tech sector because of the Chinese government's financial and policy support. There's no real competition for Huawei's 5G tech so it's being stifled politically rather than through economic competition.
but american seems to forget the subsidies that are given to farmers and meat industrial complex that made everyone, mexhicans and canadian unable to compete with with their american counterparts. and now their flooding canadians with milks,
its the same thing, its just that chineses are investing in future economy while americans are patching their legacy economies.Russian military's another good one - while it's true that the US military (in terms of force strength) is still far ahead, Russia spends roughly 1/10th as much as the US and is still generations ahead in several important areas like missile and ECM tech. This is largely because the Russian military-industrial complex is state-owned and far less prone to the absurd gouging and exploitation that goes on in the US military contracting system.
i think this is party also due to the cheap prices of lives and labors in russia, but your right. when products are not made for individual profits but for their utilitarian ourposes they tend to be cheaper and of higher quality.
i still remember an era where imported chinese goods, those that were clearly marked with 'made in the peoples republic of china' were known for their high quality and durability on par with those made in advanced country else where.
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2019-01-29 at 7:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny provided the people in charge of administering a socialistic / communistic country is immune to corruption and self gratification, socialism/communism has a lot of potential in a free economy.
Yeah, this is the big question. Virtually every major 'communist' or 'socialist' movement since WWII has collapsed as a result of both internal pressures (mostly corruption and nepotism) as well as external (economic and political warfare, if not kinetic, from existing capitalist powers) so it's hard to analyse objectively whether such states really are sustainable long-term.
I found an essay by Kim Jong Il discussing the collapse of the Soviet Union a while back, mostly dealing with the problem of succession of power - I haven't actually read it yet but I might now
