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Why did man feel the need to create God?
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2019-01-20 at 8:21 PM UTCIt’s not like anyone can follow the rules set out by any of the major world religions anyway.
why did man ever create God? I mean, let’s face it, by nature man is rebellious. So rebellious, in fact, that he has to have this “conscience” that decides what is right and wrong for him. And what’s right for me is wrong for the next person, based solely on what we were taught to blindly believe.
So please do tell me ... why did man create a Being greater than himself to tell him what he needs to do when, quite frankly, man doesn’t like to be pushed around ... especially by someone that you cannot presumably see or have any form of real legitimate communication with?
What good did man see when he created a god? Besides the blatantly obvious mechanism that could be used to control hoards of beings who require a deity to tell them what to think and do.
Let’s, for purposes of discussion, assume that there was nothing once upon a time.
And this nothing was intelligent enough to reproduce itself and everything else we see today which then begs the question, if a self-reproducing independent organism could replicate itself, why create gender in the first place with women being child bearers? Why didn’t the organism just leave life as self-producing (like trees and some reptiles are)?
And then, furthermore, if this organism was so smart that it could create galaxies that go to the n-th power and create the sun, moon, stars, rocks, planets, ... why create life ONLY on this planet?
I mean, really ... is this planet that significant to one organism that came from nothing? Anyway, I’m detracting.
Of course, this reproduction process took millions of years to get us to where we are today so that nobody can really really prove anything (everything is based on assumptions and theories and dating models that we think are correct).
If sciences timeline of homo sapien’s evolution is anything to go by, modern man is a pretty new species, with modern humans being only 200,000 years old.
But religion is, at best, 6- to 10,000 years old (depends on where you get your source from). So why would modern man (called hunter-gatherers) live for 190,000 years with some meagre developments such as burial tombs, pitchforks, axes, stone hunting tools, jedielry, the wheel ... and then, one day, just wake up and say, “Today, we shall make god!”
Seriously why do we as a species have such a deeply imbedded need for external controls? Religion – any religion – is at most 10,000 years old. So man lived for over 190,000 years and one day just got up and created a god. Why? What did man do for 190,000 years when there was no god? Why is there no historical evidence of a god prior to the recorded beginnings of the earth as in the Bible? And please ... having records of burial sites does not denote the existence of a god ... coz even atheists bury their dead! -
2019-01-20 at 8:25 PM UTCBicameralism!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)
I discovered this wiki page from a thread in the Humanities subforum...
I remember vaguely touching on this theory once or twice in the past, but never gave it much thought as a source of religious thinking until now.
Of course, it's wildly speculative, but it's a neat theory about the origins of theological thinking. -
2019-01-20 at 8:27 PM UTCAlso, another plausible explanation is that it was devised by individuals who simply saw it's value as a way to control and manipulate the masses.
Bicameralism is at least more humanistic and has a better overall view of human nature. But it's also totally possible that some people just straight up fabricated it all so that they could gain the upper hand. -
2019-01-20 at 8:30 PM UTCOh, and one other theory is simply substituting magical thinking for any ignorance or gaps in knowledge.
We, as a species, are prone to fabricate explanations for things rather than leave holes in our knowledge. It's just plain uncomfortable to have blind spots or gaps in our minds, and we will fill these voids with whatever is most convenient.
Before the advent of science, religious theories about our origins were the most convenient. -
2019-01-20 at 8:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by UNSUB It’s not like anyone can follow the rules set out by any of the major world religions anyway.
why did man ever create God? I mean, let’s face it, by nature man is rebellious. So rebellious, in fact, that he has to have this “conscience” that decides what is right and wrong for him. And what’s right for me is wrong for the next person, based solely on what we were taught to blindly believe.
So please do tell me … why did man create a Being greater than himself to tell him what he needs to do when, quite frankly, man doesn’t like to be pushed around … especially by someone that you cannot presumably see or have any form of real legitimate communication with?
What good did man see when he created a god? Besides the blatantly obvious mechanism that could be used to control hoards of beings who require a deity to tell them what to think and do.
Let’s, for purposes of discussion, assume that there was nothing once upon a time.
And this nothing was intelligent enough to reproduce itself and everything else we see today which then begs the question, if a self-reproducing independent organism could replicate itself, why create gender in the first place with women being child bearers? Why didn’t the organism just leave life as self-producing (like trees and some reptiles are)?
And then, furthermore, if this organism was so smart that it could create galaxies that go to the n-th power and create the sun, moon, stars, rocks, planets, … why create life ONLY on this planet?
I mean, really … is this planet that significant to one organism that came from nothing? Anyway, I’m detracting.
Of course, this reproduction process took millions of years to get us to where we are today so that nobody can really really prove anything (everything is based on assumptions and theories and dating models that we think are correct).
If sciences timeline of homo sapien’s evolution is anything to go by, modern man is a pretty new species, with modern humans being only 200,000 years old.
But religion is, at best, 6- to 10,000 years old (depends on where you get your source from). So why would modern man (called hunter-gatherers) live for 190,000 years with some meagre developments such as burial tombs, pitchforks, axes, stone hunting tools, jedielry, the wheel … and then, one day, just wake up and say, “Today, we shall make god!”
Seriously why do we as a species have such a deeply imbedded need for external controls? Religion – any religion – is at most 10,000 years old. So man lived for over 190,000 years and one day just got up and created a god. Why? What did man do for 190,000 years when there was no god? Why is there no historical evidence of a god prior to the recorded beginnings of the earth as in the Bible? And please … having records of burial sites does not denote the existence of a god … coz even atheists bury their dead!
I did read. 🤟 -
2019-01-20 at 8:55 PM UTC
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2019-01-20 at 8:55 PM UTCWe were brainwashed into believing it via frequencies relayed to earth from the moon which originated in Saturn. Inside Saturn there exists a cube. This cube is an AI that can travel through the 4th dimension.
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2019-01-20 at 8:56 PM UTC
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2019-01-20 at 8:58 PM UTCYou know me?
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2019-01-20 at 9:02 PM UTCJeebus you write so much shit no one gives a shit about 😉
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2019-01-20 at 9:07 PM UTCshut up you alt bitch
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2019-01-20 at 9:11 PM UTC
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2019-01-20 at 9:12 PM UTCNo, she doesn't waste her time with alts
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2019-01-20 at 9:17 PM UTC
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2019-01-20 at 9:22 PM UTCLiterally everyone is an alt. You are an alt; I am an alt; Lanny is an alt; even the shoe sales spammers are alts; there are no humans anywhere in the world.
Now that that's out of the way, can we continue talking about the origins of religion please... -
2019-01-20 at 9:23 PM UTCGod is an alt.
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