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Simple timer for IEDs
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2019-01-15 at 4:29 PM UTCaosuidfhoiaytfo8w7afdsfsaf
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2019-01-15 at 5:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc Using hydrochloric acid to eat away a metal wire would be better. Just get the right thickness of wire for the amount of time you want.
In Vietnam the Cong would put rubber bands around grenade clips then pull out the pin and drop them into american jeeps gas tanks. The gas would slowly eat away the rubber.
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this isnt the 70s.
imho the easiest timer/trigger mechanism is a 2nd generation nokia. -
2019-01-15 at 11:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny this isnt the 70s.
imho the easiest timer/trigger mechanism is a 2nd generation nokia.
I've often thought how funny it would be if some idiot made a bomb with a cell phone trigger attached to the ringer and just as he planted it somebody called it as a wrong number or some PPI seller just happened to cold call at that precise moment.
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2019-01-16 at 12:07 AM UTCThose triggers don't work like the movies dumbass.
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2019-01-16 at 12:18 AM UTCWho mentioned anything about movies faggot?
Anyway I'll leave this here, I'm sure you can figure out the rest.
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2019-01-16 at 1:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc I've often thought how funny it would be if some idiot made a bomb with a cell phone trigger attached to the ringer and just as he planted it somebody called it as a wrong number or some PPI seller just happened to cold call at that precise moment.
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That has happened in the past. One way to fix that, might be to attach a timer to the phone's battery, so that it can't accidentally be called until a certain time when the phone's battery power is connected.
That, or write a tiny bit of assembly code and use a microcontroller. Or custom logic gates and a multi-frequency transmitter, even better. They'd see the pieces and be like WTF? -
2019-01-16 at 1:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc I've often thought how funny it would be if some idiot made a bomb with a cell phone trigger attached to the ringer and just as he planted it somebody called it as a wrong number or some PPI seller just happened to cold call at that precise moment.
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they do have reliable alarm clock. using phone call to trigger a bomb is not a good idea because you'd need a sim card for it. -
2019-01-16 at 1:32 AM UTC
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2019-01-16 at 3:55 AM UTC
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2019-01-16 at 4:10 AM UTC
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2019-01-16 at 4:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers I had this idea for a buoancy timer. Back on totse, some people came up with the idea to use two close pins held apart, with wires attached, so that when they closed, the wires would connect, completing a circuit and heating a light bulb filament which ignites an explosive charge. When held open, the close pin is frozen in water. So once the water melts, the pin closes and the explosion occurs. Problem is that this is not very predictable especially in cold weather. Using a similar concept, a hole can be poked in one container(container A), with a small weight in it, so that once the container that container A is sitting in (container B) is filled with a fluid, container A gradually sinks, allowing wires to touch and complete a circuit. This can be used with a liquid that doesn't easily freeze, so it's much less affected by temperature. Very precise and predictable timing. Easy to put together. Yep, some people will say 'omgzbongoz bombs r bad' and it's a "kewl" idea. That's why I'm posting it here. Where all the other shitty messed up ideas go.
EDIT: container B can obviously also be the only one with a hole in it. That may work better. Pull a thumb tack out of it or something and pour water or whatever liquid up to a certain level. Thumb tack is likely to take forever though unless there's sufficient weight in container A to force water out. You'll have to adjust it to get the right timing.
Myself and other totse members had tried the ice timer. Works quite well. I scared the shit out of my brother once by attaching one to some fireworks, left it in the barbeque pit and forgot it was there. He took a nap in the hammock and it went off while he was asleep. He was convinced I was outside sneaking around messing with him and it was dark. I explained to him I had forgotten about it. It was a hilarious coincidence… As someone pointed out, you'll need more power for the water's conductivity to be a problem. Much bigger battery required. Use a 9 volt and you're good, but if it's cold enough outside, it may take forever to melt, and then possibly drain the battery, so you'll need a fully charged battery.
It's not dangerous at all with the ice timer, so long as you're using the right filament. You'll need quite a bit more juice going through it in order to get the filament hot enough to ignite a pyrotechnic mix or primary. You can test this out by not attaching any pyrotechnic mix or primary, and put your fingers on the filament. You won't feel any noticeable heat. Try a thermometer if you want to be sure. Brake light bulb + 9 volt battery. Gun powder for example, is going to take quite a bit more heat than anything you'd get with that small amount of current flowing through the ice. Certain primary explosives are quite heat sensitive compared to others, but even those aren't going to be a problem. If you're really paranoid, attach a length of fuse to the filament, and first check with thermometer.
Everyone already knows about those methods though. The purpose of this is just mostly something new, which doesn't leave as much evidence.
If I was to do the ice method I would probably get a pair of forceps and have two points that you could attach to the ends that make a connection when the forceps closed. Then disconnect them and place the forceps in open position with the handles sitting in water in the freezer so you freeze the handles inside a big ice cube. Then when they are in the ice reattach the contacts and wire them up and put a tight elastic band around the prongs so that they close once the ice melts away. You could place one of those pocket hand warmers below the ice to speed up and ensure it melts. Obvs run tests to get the right amount of ice for the time needed. This way you should be able to keep any water away from the contacts and any of the electric circuit altogether if designed well.
But I still think using metal wire to hold the forceps apart which is then submerged into hydrochloric acid would be better way to go. Using set thickness of wire would give you a fairly good set time. Also the concentration of acid would affect the to.e taken to dissolve the wire. With the right testing you should get it accurate to within a minute or so and be able to set it anywhere from a few minutes to half an hour or more.
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2019-01-16 at 4:12 AM UTCYou would blow yourself up Narc.
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2019-01-16 at 4:16 AM UTCI'd blow you up you fat fucker.
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2019-01-16 at 4:20 AM UTCGuarantee I'm in better shape than you, heroin boy. I've seen you. You're slightly overweight. I'm not slightly anything except slightly annoyed by your rotund ass.
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2019-01-16 at 6:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc If I was to do the ice method I would probably get a pair of forceps and have two points that you could attach to the ends that make a connection when the forceps closed. Then disconnect them and place the forceps in open position with the handles sitting in water in the freezer so you freeze the handles inside a big ice cube. Then when they are in the ice reattach the contacts and wire them up and put a tight elastic band around the prongs so that they close once the ice melts away. You could place one of those pocket hand warmers below the ice to speed up and ensure it melts. Obvs run tests to get the right amount of ice for the time needed. This way you should be able to keep any water away from the contacts and any of the electric circuit altogether if designed well.
But I still think using metal wire to hold the forceps apart which is then submerged into hydrochloric acid would be better way to go. Using set thickness of wire would give you a fairly good set time. Also the concentration of acid would affect the to.e taken to dissolve the wire. With the right testing you should get it accurate to within a minute or so and be able to set it anywhere from a few minutes to half an hour or more.
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2019-01-16 at 9:58 AM UTC
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2019-01-16 at 7:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc If I was to do the ice method I would probably get a pair of forceps and have two points that you could attach to the ends that make a connection when the forceps closed. Then disconnect them and place the forceps in open position with the handles sitting in water in the freezer so you freeze the handles inside a big ice cube. Then when they are in the ice reattach the contacts and wire them up and put a tight elastic band around the prongs so that they close once the ice melts away. You could place one of those pocket hand warmers below the ice to speed up and ensure it melts. Obvs run tests to get the right amount of ice for the time needed. This way you should be able to keep any water away from the contacts and any of the electric circuit altogether if designed well.
But I still think using metal wire to hold the forceps apart which is then submerged into hydrochloric acid would be better way to go. Using set thickness of wire would give you a fairly good set time. Also the concentration of acid would affect the to.e taken to dissolve the wire. With the right testing you should get it accurate to within a minute or so and be able to set it anywhere from a few minutes to half an hour or more.
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That's over-complicating it. The ice timer or buoancy timer are much simpler than using acid, not to mention that's one more hazardous material you'd be messing with. I encourage people to improvise though. Simply place a metal ring, paper clip or string around the close pin to hold it open, with the wires attached, so after it's frozen, remove the ring, and once the ice melts the circuit is complete, igniting the primary by heating the filament.
It's a foolproof idea. I may post a youtube video of it, although I don't think anyone needs to a visual as it's already so simple.
I could probably think of situations where the acid idea may be better suited, or a variation on it, but I like to keep things as simple as possible. -
2019-01-17 at 2:20 PM UTCWell just remember that priming a bomb at the target location isn't as easy as setting it for practice in your home. No good having to set some fiddly little part to trigger a live bomb when a sudden nearby noise or passer by takes your attention away at the vital moment and you then accidently make that connection. Its easy done.
Also remember that ice breaks easy, especially if under duress from something spring loaded.
Have you even conducted a strength test to see how much pressure it would take to break that ice so you'd know how much ice you'd need? Have you allowed for how much ice might melt on the journey to the target location.
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2019-01-17 at 2:34 PM UTCits when thread like this appear that i miss finny more.
