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(Differentially) Diagnosing a Myoclonic Seizure
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2019-01-04 at 2:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick When I was 14 I observed it in a Chicago bus driver who nearly lost control of the vehicle I had boarded. It was a standout case that ticked all the boxes of which I had read about beforehand, so I can't claim any sort of special knowledge. I had the opportunity to talk to him about it following the event, after he was done apologizing. I recognized it based on the reports of a Zoklet member and it was really a spectacular coincidence unless I'm totally wrong. In any case, I'm really glad I didn't die.
This is especially interesting to me because my only reference for what constitutes a myoclonic (or any seizure really for that matter) seizure is stuff I've read online (or seen Hollywood actors do in movies and TV shows).
Actually, something really fascinating that popped into my mind very time I was having these seemingly involuntary muscle contractions (and Zanick, you especially might be able to appreciate this), it got me dwelling on the nature of free will. To this moment, I still don't know if they were voluntary or involuntary movements - like, it felt like I had some kind of control, ultimately, but was just "giving in" to these urges, but the compulsion was incredibly strong.
Originally posted by Zanick Otherwise, yeah I've had benzo withdrawal seizures. You're going to feel fine, and if you feel better than this it's probably actually worse. You won't know it's happened except by the accounting of others. Don't be bashful in your treatment; be choosy about the anticonvulsant they give you because you'll probably be taking it for months.
That is very helpfully reassuring.
One thing I have to remind myself to keep the spirits up is that, simply, it will pass.
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2019-01-04 at 2:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano If you do a bump of heroin and walk inti a clinic will they give you subs/methadone?
I'm amusing they can't diagnostically tell how long you've been on it
Lol, technically you probably could get away with it.
They piss test you, of course, and, interestingly, in my case, it had been a few days since I last got any quality product, so I actually pissed clean and was denied. The doctors at the clinic literally said I had to go and score some, take it, then come back and give them a positive piss test to be accepted.
It worked, and I got in the next day.
They give you a brief interview about your experience, but the intriguing thing about it is that, the way they word the questions, sometimes you an end up being unintenionally ambiguous.
For example, they asked "how long have you been using heroin?"
Well, my very first time was almost a decade prior to that. But, I wouldn't in a million years have considered myself an opiate addict for most of those years, since i was just experenting - zero addictional/habitual use existed. It was like a once or twice a year thing at first.
But, as far as the question on the piece of paper was concerned, I was considered to be a "10 year opiate addict".The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-01-04 at 3:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ughhu The withdrawal treatment for alcohol in hospital is benzos. Once you get through the alcohol detox then taper the benzos.
Originally posted by DietPiano I take lamictal and gabapentin post benzo withdrawl. I don't know if my episodes were partial seizures or not. I don't know how the lamictal affects me rrally, but it doesn't seem to make me any more tired (I think). I highly reccommend gaba
Originally posted by mikeyagain Gaba is pretty good if you take 3 times your dosage.. The bastards recently made it a controlled substance.. I wish they would leave people the fuck alone…
Thanks for those posts, they have all given me some things to research a bit.
Originally posted by Ughhu The biggest fear is that you would seize and fall and hit your head or something. Benzos will help you get through this initial phase. Next issue is dealing with the mental end of addiction, much harder but it sounds like you have made it through in the past
The weird thing is that I can say I have experience with both extreme psychological addiction and extreme physical withdrawal symptoms.
While the two may typically coexist, and they have for me many times before, this is the first time I'm had strictly physical W/D symptoms.
I managed to get the first couple days of the new year completely sober, and was doing great, just except for the occasional muscle contraction, as well as a strong difficulty in staying asleep. -
2019-01-04 at 3:17 AM UTCnot sure, but I get pretty bad muscle jerks if i try to stop etiz abruptly. especially in my legs, my quad muscles spasm out and sometimes makes me leg move so hard it'll hit like a table leg or something and cause a ruckus and people get weirded out lmaoThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-01-04 at 3:18 AM UTCif you feel like you're gonna have a seizure tho just listen to this, pretty sure this will slur your nerves into oblivion
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2019-01-05 at 1:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by OG_GREENPLASTIC_JOHNSON_III not sure, but I get pretty bad muscle jerks if i try to stop etiz abruptly. especially in my legs, my quad muscles spasm out and sometimes makes me leg move so hard it'll hit like a table leg or something and cause a ruckus and people get weirded out lmao
For what it's worth, it's reassuring to know that I'm not crazy and that this is more-or-less routine stuff from time to time. Knowing that overs have endured it, and had it ultimately pass, is a pretty big relief. -
2019-01-05 at 1:45 AM UTCAlso, in case anyone is curious about how events unfolded...
I went to the walk-in clinic the next morning, and was just straight up 100% honest with the doc, and he gave me a tapering dose of diazepam (super low dose, but it's good enough, I haven't had any G in like 36 hours, and I am having virtually no physical withdrawal symptoms).
I was also able to sleep this morning (for longer than an 30-60 minutes like the other nights), which is awesome.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-01-05 at 4:52 AM UTC
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2019-01-05 at 4:55 AM UTCWhat race was the doc
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2019-01-05 at 5:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost What race was the doc
European - I'm even gonna place my bets on something more specific...
Eastern European most likely, possibly Russian, although he could have been Ukranian or something like that.
He was chill and down to Earth, so I felt comfortable divulging everything.
I told him I synthed a liter of GHB and bought a bunch of benzos off the deep web and have been drinking all day every day for the past month.
I think maybe he appreciated my honesty.
Also, I didn't even ask for a benzo script.
I out right asked for valproic acid (which has like zero abuse/addiction potential).
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2019-01-05 at 5:23 AM UTCAnd it's only like a week's worth (getting lower every couple of days).
In fact, SUPER low, I think he might have mixed it up with clonazepam...
The script I got was 4*2mg diazepam per day for two days, then 3 per day, then 2 per day, etc.
But according to the benzo equivalence table, that's SUPER low.
At first when he said "I'm gonna give you either diazepam or clonazepam - 2mg four times a day at first, tapering down from there"... I was like...
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2019-01-05 at 5:41 AM UTCGod damn that's a chill doc
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2019-01-05 at 5:52 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost God damn that's a chill doc
My experiences with doctors have definitely been mixed.
There are some that are deadset against prescribing anything even remotely abusable; heck, they'd rather send someone in legitimate pain out the door than accidentally "help some junky" get their fix. It's fucked up.
But there are doctors out there who are reasonable and will listen to reason. In fact, I'll bet that it's a sizeable portion. Like I said, I've met some under qualified, or just plain ignorant, M.D.'s, but getting all the way through medical school, you must pick up at least some life experience and wisdom.
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2019-01-05 at 2:26 PM UTCIt's not really uncommon. Every alcoholic (and I asume benzo users too) who go through detox at Center City, where I went, gets Librium or phenobarb if they're especially in a bad way.
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2019-01-05 at 2:29 PM UTCseizures are fucking great, it's like, here comes the fucking pain dude, I hope your spine has enough metal in it that you won't completely gas out.
doctors are fucking gay, don't go to rehab, you're a fucking warrior, an absolutely mad man, a blood thirsty lord of of war. what the fuck is there to cure? -
2019-01-05 at 2:58 PM UTCGad. You will get really good treatment if you go to a clinic downtown. Especially near St. Paul’s area. They are used to and better with helping addiction. I know it’s a pretty long trip tho
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2019-01-05 at 3:08 PM UTCdon't listen to these fags, seizures are a divine gift. they want to take this away from you. do not believe their lies. God is speaking to you.
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2019-01-05 at 3:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ughhu Gad. You will get really good treatment if you go to a clinic downtown. Especially near St. Paul’s area. They are used to and better with helping addiction. I know it’s a pretty long trip tho
Lol that's where I go. I don't think he's necessarily an addict though. I don't necessarily think I'm an addict either, as I've quit every drug I've tried by myself the first time I've tried, including 4 year 8mg/day xanax and 9 months heroin.
I enjoy most of the treatment however, and my medical practitioners from the centers are some of the best in the world. -
2019-01-05 at 3:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano Lol that's where I go. I don't think he's necessarily an addict though. I don't necessarily think I'm an addict either, as I've quit every drug I've tried by myself the first time I've tried, including 4 year 8mg/day xanax and 9 months heroin.
I enjoy most of the treatment however, and my medical practitioners from the centers are some of the best in the world.
you're addicted to my dick, faggot
