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I just rage quit my bank after 15 years and went to the credit union across the street (DISCUSS: banks vs credit unions)

  1. #21
    Ajax African Astronaut [rumor the placative aphakia]
    Originally posted by gadzooks The thing is, you went beyond that by even remotely implying that a flat $48 fee is anywhere near reasonable.

    I do see what you're saying about it being my responsibility, and, like I said, I am willing to pay a REASONABLE fee for my own negligence and poor planning.

    But not $48. That's just ridiculous.

    Like it's so ridiculous that it reaches the point of being morally dubious.

    Each of those three bill payments were an average of $200.

    48 / 200 = ~1/4 = 25%.

    That is undeniably unreasonable.

    ESPECIALLY considering that I was taking efforts to prevent such a scenario by applying for overdraft protection and applying for a consolidation loan and so on.

    To clear up your assumptions, I do not think $48 is a reasonable fee. I worked at a bank once and I waved as many fees as I could without getting in trouble.
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  2. #22
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING III: The Quest for 911 Truth "Didn't you read your 105 page contract goy? Subsection 88 on page 14 clearly states that we have the right to levy penalties of positive funds for negative funds as may be decided upon by our head goo."

    I see what you did thar.

  3. #23
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Ajax To clear up your assumptions, I do not think $48 is a reasonable fee. I worked at a bank once and I waved as many fees as I could without getting in trouble.

    Okay at least we are in agreement on something.

    And I do take responsibility for my part in what happened, which is why I wasn't looking for a full refund or anything like that - just some kind of reasonable compromise.

    They wouldn't even do that.

    Either way, whatever, it's a chance to try something different. I highly doubt anyone at my former bank will lose any sleep over one lost customer - and especially the much higher ups.
  4. #24
    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    I went head to head with Bank of America once, I won. But I am talking a good amount of money. I really don't want to business with them but they are everywhere.
  5. #25
    Ajax African Astronaut [rumor the placative aphakia]
    Originally posted by gadzooks Okay at least we are in agreement on something.

    And I do take responsibility for my part in what happened, which is why I wasn't looking for a full refund or anything like that - just some kind of reasonable compromise.

    They wouldn't even do that.

    Either way, whatever, it's a chance to try something different. I highly doubt anyone at my former bank will lose any sleep over one lost customer - and especially the much higher ups.

    They won’t. They make money by you keeping deposits there so they can loan out your money and make money by charging interest on those loans.
  6. #26
    Ajax African Astronaut [rumor the placative aphakia]
    Originally posted by Erekshun I went head to head with Bank of America once, I won. But I am talking a good amount of money. I really don't want to business with them but they are everywhere.

    Bank of America is one of the worst banks out there, right behind Wells Fargo.
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  7. #27
    Ughhu Tuskegee Airman [tepidly antiquate my affinity]
    48 seems a bit much for nsf. I think Ive usually paid around 35.

    I also have credit issues and am now with TD. It’s been 2 yrs now and they still aren’t confident in my income to give overdraft or and credit. I make approx 2k biweekly and they won’t cover and small payment that funds are available but in a dif account. I used to be with RBC and they would give me a temp LOC for. 5$ fee per use which was worth it. The. I opened a full LOC and racked it. Hence my rebuild plans with TD. They seem very rigid and cautious with credit so don’t take it personally
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  8. #28
    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Ajax Bank of America is one of the worst banks out there, right behind Wells Fargo.

    I agree but I don't have much choice. I need access to my money everywhere.
  9. #29
    I’m all hot and bothered now and going to a credit union next week.
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  10. #30
    fuck credit ratings.

    credit rating is the measurement of how much of a bitch you are to the financial industrial complexes. the more subserviant you are to them, the higher your credit rating is. fuck that.

    amass debit ratings instead.
  11. #31
    Ajax African Astronaut [rumor the placative aphakia]
    Originally posted by Erekshun I agree but I don't have much choice. I need access to my money everywhere.

    With online / mobile / electronic banking and a debit card, would you not have that elsewhere? I have my checking account with a local bank and I haven’t encountered accessibility issuss.
  12. #32
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny fuck credit ratings.

    credit rating is the measurement of how much of a bitch you are to the financial industrial complexes. the more subserviant you are to them, the higher your credit rating is. fuck that.

    amass debit ratings instead.

    Shut your Chinese ass up trying to mess with the economy.
  13. #33
    Ghost Black Hole
    Originally posted by Erekshun Why didn't you shoot the place up?

    It didn't dissolve very well
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  14. #34
    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Ajax With online / mobile / electronic banking and a debit card, would you not have that elsewhere? I have my checking account with a local bank and I haven’t encountered accessibility issuss.

    I don't mean personal banking.
  15. #35
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Ughhu 48 seems a bit much for nsf. I think Ive usually paid around 35.

    I also have credit issues and am now with TD. It’s been 2 yrs now and they still aren’t confident in my income to give overdraft or and credit. I make approx 2k biweekly and they won’t cover and small payment that funds are available but in a dif account. I used to be with RBC and they would give me a temp LOC for. 5$ fee per use which was worth it. The. I opened a full LOC and racked it. Hence my rebuild plans with TD. They seem very rigid and cautious with credit so don’t take it personally

    I've been researching and learning all kinds of stuff about how to build credit as efficiently as possible - although there's no one single definitive quantitative answer (which is ironic, because it's all based on mathematical formulas, which are as quantitative as it gets).

    But different credit bureaus, financial institutions, and even third-party organizations (like credit karma), all use their own unique formulae to calculate credit risk.

    But, a few of the take-homes that seem pretty universal:
    1. First of all, if you have anything in collections, that's always the first thing to deal with.
    2. Apparently the more lines of credit you have, the better, and especially the more diverse (mortgage; car loan; credit cards; etc). This one is often counter intuitive to people, but it shows (as long as you make steady payments) that you can manage credit/debt.
    3. Applying for a credit card isn't going to cause your credit score to drop by 100 points. People are SO unnecessarily paranoid about getting a "credit check ding" on their record. Like, yeah, it does factor in, but nowhere near as much as people think.

    There are some other theories that are out there, such as establishing certain debt-to-credit-limit ratios and stuff, but it gets a bit more fuzzy there.
  16. #36
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Ghost It didn't dissolve very well

    Oh man I laughed way too hard at that.

    Just leave it to a former IV user to still completely miss that double entendre in the first place.
  17. #37
    Ajax African Astronaut [rumor the placative aphakia]
    Originally posted by Erekshun I don't mean personal banking.

    You don’t do your investment banking at BoA, do you?
  18. #38
    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    No
  19. #39
    Ughhu Tuskegee Airman [tepidly antiquate my affinity]
    Another thing I’ve heard is once a lender sends your debt to collections it’s dead to them. The collection company owns it. As long as you never consent to the debt being yours either phone/email/ etc then if they haven’t gotten you to pay in 7 yrs the debt is dissolved. Same amount of time as bankruptcy. Credits already fucked so why pay off something you don’t need too
  20. #40
    Ajax African Astronaut [rumor the placative aphakia]
    Originally posted by Ughhu Another thing I’ve heard is once a lender sends your debt to collections it’s dead to them. The collection company owns it. As long as you never consent to the debt being yours either phone/email/ etc then if they haven’t gotten you to pay in 7 yrs the debt is dissolved. Same amount of time as bankruptcy. Credits already fucked so why pay off something you don’t need too

    They can file a judgment or garnish wages in some cases. Not sure of Canadian laws.
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