100% OTC organic GHB

1. 2016-02-07 at 11:09 PM UTC

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   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   No more Bromate oxidation of THF, FUCK THAT MESS. This is "new" technology as in there doesn't exist any clandestine version of this patended process because I'm literally the only living human who knows/cares enough to do this kind of research. Maleic anhydride, sugar, butane and hydrogen can all be produced following "green chemistry" guidelines
   
   http://davyprotech.com/what-we-do/licensed-processes-and-core-technologies/licensed-processes/butanediol-thf-gbl/specification/
   
   

   [FONT=Arial][SIZE=14px]We offer a more economical process by using low-cost raw materials, producing BDO from butane via maleic anhydride (MAH), or from sugar via succinic acid (SAC), with the latter process making bio-based BDO possible. [/SIZE][/FONT]

   
   
2. 2016-02-10 at 5:46 AM UTC

   #2
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   Don't mind me just watering the owl here.
   
   
   
   
   
   
3. 2016-02-10 at 3:39 PM UTC

   #3
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   a) Converting n-butane to MAN by catalytic vapour phase oxidation. b) Recovering MAN from the effluent gases from the butane oxidation by selective absorption into GBL, forming a MAN-GBL mixture.
   c) Removing water from the MAN-GBL mixture in a stripper, under the action of a gas and/or under vacuum, producing a MAN-GBL mixture with a minimum water and maleic acid content.
   d) Recovering GBL from the exhaust gases that leave the maleic anhydride absorber, by water absorption;
   e) Dehydrating the GBL recovered and recycling it to the maleic anhydride absorber;
   f) Hydrogenating the dewatered MAN-GBL mixture over suitable catalyst (s) under conditions that favour
   THF and GBL formation.
   g) Separating THF, GBL and by-products from the resulting hydrogenation mixture, by distillation.
   h) Recycling a GBL rich stream to the MAN selective absorption.
   
   The overall hydrogenation operating conditions and major performances are: Pressure: from 20 to 80 bar,
   preferably from 30 to 50
   bar
   Temperature: from 120 to 280 C,
   preferably from 170 to
   240 C
   H2 to MAN molar ratio: from 20 to 150,
   preferably from 40 to 60
   H2 space velocity: from 500 to 4000 hr-1
   preferably from 2000 to
   3000 hr~l
   Conversion of MAN: from 96% to 100%
   Selectivity to GBL: from 88k to 95k
   Selectivity to THF: from lo to 10W
   Total selectivity to GBL+THF: from 90% to 98%
   
   http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/serious/000225945.html
   
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   Seems super easy. I think I'll cook up a nice batch for myself over the weekend.....
   
   
   
4. 2016-02-10 at 4:26 PM UTC

   #4
   SpatianHaigency Tuskegee Airman
   is it really this easy
5. 2016-02-10 at 5:35 PM UTC

   #5
   

   What_a_Kreep Tuskegee Airman
   I wanna make GHB. It sounds like simple chemistry. I heard it's like alcohol (which i LOVE) but without the negative effects. But, I also heard it's very easy to OD on..
6. 2016-02-10 at 5:44 PM UTC

   #6
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   It is simple chemistry but you still need a commercial chemical factory to use this method so I dunno if that will work out.
7. 2016-02-12 at 12:53 AM UTC

   #7
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   No need for scrubbers or catalyst recycling systems, that's if you're starting from butane and making metric tonnes in a plant. Start from Maleic anhydride or succinic acid..
   
   1 or 2 hydrogenations vs working with THF and sodium bromate. I need a few $1000$ so I can run this small scale and record the results, I dont think anyone has done this process clandestinely.
   
8. 2016-02-17 at 11:39 PM UTC

   #8
   

   Dissociator African Astronaut
   Just do phenibut bro... close enough to ghb..
   
   well not really but its trill
9. 2016-02-18 at 2:13 AM UTC

   #9
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   I don't even know what it looks like but I'm sure I can reverse engineer it. Thank you for your recommendation Mr.dissociation I need front line R&D people to give me out of the box ideas on new pharma cological drugs of abuse that the kids are doing these days. Nutmeg, syncans, inhalents, pharmaceutical Welbutrin, phenibut, fish oil, whipped cream, bundy, DPH Vicks inhalers... THERE IS SOMETHING MISSING AND I KNOW IT... I FEEL IT.. A LEGAL HIGH... OTC.. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU!!!! REVEAL YOURSELF. Once I get the factory setup I with hire you 30,909$ a year for research
10. 2016-02-25 at 7:24 PM UTC

    #10
    Phool Yung Blood
    You dummy, clearly you've been dropped on your head. The Sandmeyer reaction via GABA to GBL is way, way easier and OTC. GABA powder can be purchased online for like $15 for 2Lbs, NaNO2 can be had for about the same price. The yield is theoretically quantitative, but of course in practice mechanical losses will leave you with maybe 70-80% yield. Best of all no hydrogenation required.. not sure why you think the reaction your talking about is so amazing, it requires a plantium/palladium/rhodium ingot as a catalyst, unless of course your set up to perform a hydrogenation at 400c + and under extreme pressure.
11. 2017-04-02 at 9:25 AM UTC

    #11
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    good thread made while homeless.
    
    

    Originally posted by Phool You dummy, clearly you've been dropped on your head. The Sandmeyer reaction via GABA to GBL is way, way easier and OTC. GABA powder can be purchased online for like $15 for 2Lbs, NaNO2 can be had for about the same price. The yield is theoretically quantitative, but of course in practice mechanical losses will leave you with maybe 70-80% yield. Best of all no hydrogenation required.. not sure why you think the reaction your talking about is so amazing, it requires a plantium/palladium/rhodium ingot as a catalyst, unless of course your set up to perform a hydrogenation at 400c + and under extreme pressure.

    
    mny research is apocalypcis and space stations. Hydrogenations are more "OTC" than ordering shit in bulk from china.