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  1. #41
    totse3.com Space Nigga
    Originally posted by gadzooks I don't know much about 3D Studio Max, but I do use GIMP with some regularity. It should work just fine on Ubuntu.

    If I'm not mistaken, it's kinda meant for Linux - being an open-source alternative to MS Photoshop (much akin to the relationship between Linux and MS Windows).

    Oh, I thought GIMP was the emulator. so any Windows Executable ap file. how do you run it in Linux's windows emulator? what is the emulator called and is it a bit of a process everytime you do it?
  2. #42
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by totse3.com how do you run it in Linux's windows emulator?

    Holy shit you just blew my drug-addled mind.

    Okay, GIMP is available for Linux directly. What you're talking about is emulating Windows inside of Linux, which is like, a paradox or something.

    Just get GIMP and you're all good.
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  3. #43
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by gadzooks Honestly, I use Ubuntu exclusively, but that's just for consistency.

    it's a bloated option for barebones VMs, try debian or centos instead. it gets talked up a lot but DO NOT use arch for anything that requires any degree of stability.



    Originally posted by gadzooks I don't know much about 3D Studio Max, but I do use GIMP with some regularity. It should work just fine on Ubuntu.

    If I'm not mistaken, it's kinda meant for Linux - being an open-source alternative to MS Photoshop (much akin to the relationship between Linux and MS Windows).

    GIMP was originally written for lunix and ported to windows. there are native (ie. they run without special emulators) builds for both, as well as osx, freebsd and some others from memory.



    Originally posted by totse3.com if so, how does it work exactly? You load it and then you can click on exe files.. or is it having to type commands in the OS thingy to get it to run? and is it choppy or does it work pretty good?

    probably takes a bit more explaining than this, but basically -

    in windows, when you go into your file browser (explorer) and look at a list of files, windows is able to tell which file is a picture, which file is a program, which file is a video etc. based on the extension - the (usually three) digits that come after the last dot in the filename. if there's no extension, windows doesn't know what to do with it and you'll need to advise on which program is used to open it.

    in lunix and similar, the file extension doesn't normally make much difference - when you're browsing files, two things are checked. first it checks the file header, the first few bytes of the file as the type of data is stored there. have a look at this link for example - all JPG files start with the 3 bits FF,D8,FF. most filetypes follow a similar standard.

    the second thing that's checked is the file's permissions, which are stored in the filesystem index - it's similar to the windows/ntfs permissions of users being able to READ, WRITE or DELETE a file but lunix also has a flag called eXecute.

    for a user to be able to run a binary file (a program), it must have a valid binary header and the current user must have READ and EXECUTE flags marked on the file itself. the file extension that windows uses is ignored.



    normally you don't need to worry about all that. if you install an application from a repository or build it from source, all of that is usually taken care of manually. the files are all put where they need to go, all the flags are set and you should be able to run the program name from the commandline (no need to cd to the program folder like in windows/dos).
  4. #44
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    I like editing the registry on remote machines to create a blank extension as executable type, and then create a black file name with so many invisible characters that it pushes the dot between the extension and the filename so far to the right in the process explorer that it virtually disappears. Then all that's left to see is one long empty line in the process tree when the file is executed. People are like, WTF?? Pretty comical.
  5. #45
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by -SpectraL create a black file name

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  6. #46
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL I like editing the registry on remote machines to create a blank extension as executable type, and then create a black file name with so many invisible characters that it pushes the dot between the extension and the filename so far to the right in the process explorer that it virtually disappears. Then all that's left to see is one long empty line in the process tree when the file is executed. People are like, WTF?? Pretty comical.

    You know, you can edit these files locally, then sync them up remotely (WinSCP, etc).

    At least, that's what I do.
  7. #47
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by aldra danathan.koolaid

    Black, blank, sojourn of a hungry soul, it's all the same to the likes of us.
  8. #48
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by gadzooks You know, you can edit these files locally, then sync them up remotely (WinSCP, etc).

    At least, that's what I do.

    No, I mean you remotely edit the victim's registry and add a new key to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT and call it .(blank), and specify the content type as application/x-msdownload, then create a file remotely on the same machine named blank+99blanks.blank and run it. When the victim checks the process list, all he will see is one totally blank horizontal row.
  9. #49
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL No, I mean you remotely edit the victim's registry and add a new key to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT and call it .(blank), and specify the content type as application/x-msdownload, then create a file remotely on the same machine named blank+99blanks.blank and run it. When the victim checks the process list, all he will see is one totally blank horizontal row.

    That's some insidious shit right there.

    I'm a white hat hacker, at best.

    I just like programming. Malicious code isn't my forté.
  10. #50
    totse3.com Space Nigga
    Originally posted by gadzooks Holy shit you just blew my drug-addled mind.

    Okay, GIMP is available for Linux directly. What you're talking about is emulating Windows inside of Linux, which is like, a paradox or something.

    Just get GIMP and you're all good.

    No.. I want to use only one software in Linux that is a made for Windows exe type file.. because they don't make it for Linux.

    otherwise every other program can be linux with in the linux system.

    I don't want to run a bunch of Window shit in Linux. you're right.. that's pointless.

    or is it?

    anyways, GIMP isn't the emulator it's an art program for linux.
  11. #51
    Narc Naturally Camouflaged [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Just get Linux mint, its very windows xp like and a very easy introduction to Linux.



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  12. #52
    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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  13. #53
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Just get Knoppix. Full fledged "Live CD" OS and you don't even need a hard drive to run it or install anything. You just slap the CD in and you're good to go.
  14. #54
    totse3.com Space Nigga
    Originally posted by Nigger Stole My Bike I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

    OK I appreciate you taking the time (as I appreciate Narc for trying) to explain this. Could you direct me with some ease on my part to emulate a windows exe in the GNU ? i would like to run just one program and tell MicroSoft to fuck itself forever and ever more.
  15. #55
    totse3.com Space Nigga
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Just get Knoppix. Full fledged "Live CD" OS and you don't even need a hard drive to run it or install anything. You just slap the CD in and you're good to go.

    I vaguely remember this at bestbuy being displayed as the next thing.. (if it's the same thing you're talking about) where the CD or DVD external CD/DVD player was both the RAM and ROM plus processing unit and it loaded in or ran directly in real time. something like this. really it required lots of changing out though?

    Just curious on a sidenote.. I never owned a rasberry pi, but wanted to try that out. will cloud-pipeline be used in micro-sized computers in the future? wireless as well?

    I have a sense of nostalgia for the klunky desktop. Even the old Laptop was too small for comfort for me. let alone something I might be able to implant myself of my own choice.

    where is computing going.. phones don't have to be the only mobile device.. obviously that generation is now going to become a thing of the past when AR goes into full swing. just people walking down the street and their eyes moving all over the place. I bet they still walk into shit because their brains are focused on the visuals in AR and ot what's right in front of them. no more excuses that you're so fucking absorbed into your work while walking in front of my moving car.

    makes rideshare driving a whole new challenge.

    Stay home or in your backyard with that shit. don't bring it out on my Street, PAL!
  16. #56
    Narc Naturally Camouflaged [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Originally posted by Nigger Stole My Bike I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

    Yeah but if you went round calling it GNU then most people wouldn't know what the fuck you were on about. But most people have an idea what you mean when you say Linux.



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  17. #57
    totse3.com Space Nigga
    I want to be first in and coin a phrase here (relating to my last post)


    AR Comatosed!


    there. You heard it from me first. dead focused in AR and not their surroundings. just in a AR-Coma of mindset.
  18. #58
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Nigger Stole My Bike I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

    I thanked your post for it's educational and informative value, but I agree with Narc.

    It's just one of those things, like Kleenex for tissue paper, or Jello for gelatin-based desert products.
  19. #59
    Narc Naturally Camouflaged [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Originally posted by totse3.com OK I appreciate you taking the time (as I appreciate Narc for trying) to explain this. Could you direct me with some ease on my part to emulate a windows exe in the GNU ? i would like to run just one program and tell MicroSoft to fuck itself forever and ever more.

    You don't run windows progrs in Linux. Linux has the repository of software with pretty much every ki d of software you need. For everything you get on windows there'll be a Linux alternative that's just as good or often better. Once you go Linux you can kiss all that faggy windows shit goodbye, you won't need it.



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  20. #60
    totse3.com Space Nigga
    ^ that's more opinionated. I know there is an emulator, and I want to try this emulator. other than that, this computer is a future linux box. i just want option to run max in it.
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