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Why do handsome and well tanned individuals feel like they're entitled to enter our country for free?
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2018-10-31 at 12:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL As a genuine US citizen, he has a right to be useless to American society.
I don't recognize anyone's right to freeload off my labor and the labor of the rest of my non-freeloading countrymen because they happened to be born in a certain place or have certain parents. Mexicans provide cheap labor and great food. PHM steals money from me through taxation which goes towards subsidizing his parasitic existence. I say deport his useless ass to mexico. -
2018-10-31 at 12:31 AM UTCWasn't there a time when just being Irish or Italian made you an undesirable parasite in America? There was all kinds of vitriolic rhetoric about "potato niggers" and "olive niggers".
It just seems like there's always going to be an "us-vs-them" mentality.
Although the more divergent the physical characteristics (e.g. the contrast between literal black and white), the more amplified the irrational hatred. -
2018-10-31 at 12:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Flatulant_bomb Bullshit! Quit smoking weed.
oh I'm smoking weed if you disagree? lolz maybe like trump you just want to blame everybody else. maybe you personally didn't do it but people in "our country" did.
the u.s.a. has contributed.
drugs: we contributed by allowing drugs in and buying them in our country. if americans weren't helping get them into the country the drugs wouldn't keep coming in. they don't just bring them here and nobody buys them.
our wars with other countries and wealthy drug lords have people fleeing their countries. that isn't the only reasons but we are responsible for our part. we also have employed immigrants when it was convenient for us. now when they want to come here americans try to blame everybody else -
2018-10-31 at 12:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Wrong. He doesn't want to send back immigrants, he wants to send back illegal immigrants. Learn the difference between the two. There are millions of immigrants who entered the country legally, and it took them years, and they aren't happy at all about a caravan of dumb fucks who think they can just waltz in and skip the line. Being in the country illegally is just that: illegal, and nobody should really care how lawless you want to be.
oh na na na. lolz he doesn't want legal ones here either unless they're of his racial choosing and his choice of social status. he makes it very clear how all illegal immigrants are criminals and drug smugglers which is total crap. not once has he ever referred to any of them as people wanting a decent life for their families. and many are people with kids and families.
so using a technicality is just another way to exercise racism. If they weren't criminals before they are in his eyes by crossing the border even if it was a 10 year kid. -
2018-10-31 at 12:46 AM UTC
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2018-10-31 at 12:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks 10 year olds can be criminals, too!
Don't be ageist.
lolz so can americans. america is full of american born criminals.
my point is trump is really pushing the criminal element to lead americans into believing that they're all bad people trying to come here. that's just completely unreal thinking and it is designed to influence a ignorant population. -
2018-10-31 at 1 AM UTC
Originally posted by playingindirt lolz so can americans. america is full of american born criminals.
my point is trump is really pushing the criminal element to lead americans into believing that they're all bad people trying to come here. that's just completely unreal thinking and it is designed to influence a ignorant population.
Hey, I'm hardly what one would consider someone with committed political convictions, but despite that, you're preaching to the choir with me on the immigration issue.
It's become a trite cliché that "America was founded on immigration," but it is a perfectly valid truism.
Hence my comment above about the colloquial "potato niggers", and so on. -
2018-10-31 at 1:08 AM UTC@ gadzooks
I'm not really sure how I stand on the immigration crisis. I'm still studying it. there is enough money in america to feed all americans and a whole mess of immigrants but the problem is only a smaller percent of americans have most of the wealth. -
2018-10-31 at 1:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by playingindirt @ gadzooks
I'm not really sure how I stand on the immigration crisis. I'm still studying it. there is enough money in america to feed all americans and a whole mess of immigrants but the problem is only a smaller percent of americans have most of the wealth.
Discernibly substantial discrepancies in wealth distribution have always been, and will, in all likelihood, continue to be, a major source of problems in any given society.
For the record, I believe in capitalism. Some people truly do deserve to have more than others, if they provide something of value to society in the way of either intellectual expertise, creative productivity, or even physical/manual labor, or an emotional outlet or caretaker role of some variety. One should always be compensated for their contributions to society.
But when you have certain individuals and families with billions of dollars in assets, and, on the other end of the spectrum, individuals who can't even sustain themselves nutritionally, you have a clear problem on your hands.
That being said, though, it isn't always an issue of economic dis-proportionality. Reducing everything to class warfare can be just as detrimental to healthy political discourse as touting the construction of a giant, cartoonishly gargantuan wall, to 'keep all the baddies out'. -
2018-10-31 at 2:02 AM UTC@ gadzooks
I don't have a problem with capitalism.
but fat tax breaks for corporations while less paid americans pay the tab is called something else.
I don't think what we have here is capitalism. -
2018-10-31 at 2:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by playingindirt @ gadzooks
I don't have a problem with capitalism.
but fat tax breaks for corporations while less paid americans pay the tab is called something else.
I don't think what we have here is capitalism.
I agree.
What we have here is system of nepotism run amok. One powerful person scratches the back of another, and soon you have a full-fledged Furry-esque orgy of yiffing and rampant debauchery.
What's the solution though? You can't just overthrow an entire furpile.
I'm not even being rhetorical here, either, I really do contemplate the solution to a centuries-old, systemic issue.
Giant walls and mass deportations aren't gonna help, but then again, what progress has the titular 'progressive' party made thus far?
To me, politics seems completely awash.
I'm reserving tickets for the upcoming singularity, personally. -
2018-10-31 at 2:14 AM UTCWe need to go back to city states and with technology it can become possible but will the fat cats currently in charge just sit by and allow it to happen or will we have to make it happen against their will
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2018-10-31 at 2:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine We need to go back to city states and with technology it can become possible but will the fat cats currently in charge just sit by and allow it to happen or will we have to make it happen against their will
Your guess is as good as mine...
If that makes you a conspiracy nut, then apparently so am I. -
2018-10-31 at 2:39 AM UTCWe're all land thieves and job grabbers.
people I knew 30 plus years ago were some of the biggest racist fucks I knew, today have a brotherhood with blacks and hispanics.
fear and anger is usually the cause of the prior. My biggest concern is if I owe an outstanding balance fee at the end of the day and if I can finalize these ridiculous forms. -
2018-10-31 at 2:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks I agree.
What we have here is system of nepotism run amok. One powerful person scratches the back of another, and soon you have a full-fledged Furry-esque orgy of yiffing and rampant debauchery.
What's the solution though? You can't just overthrow an entire furpile.
I'm not even being rhetorical here, either, I really do contemplate the solution to a centuries-old, systemic issue.
Giant walls and mass deportations aren't gonna help, but then again, what progress has the titular 'progressive' party made thus far?
To me, politics seems completely awash.
I'm reserving tickets for the upcoming singularity, personally.
you probably know a lot more about it than I do. you definitely have a much better vocabulary. I like it. I didn't used to read much. I really tried but my ADHD is so bad staying focused was near impossible. I was treated for it a few months back and I can't seem to stop reading. so much to learn. It's exciting. I've even read the new federal budget. lolz it wasn't trump that fine pinned the detailed ways to manipulate it like it is. I think he is a front man. a stage man.
I'd really like to learn much much more about it. correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it's a matter of money available that's the problem. I do know if a corporation makes bad choices it can be disastrous.If I make bad choices I end up homeless. It isn't like that for corporations.
they're washing each others backs and letting americans holding the bag.
I think people ought to get more involved with just what's going on. political leaders depend on our ignorance to get what they want to happen. that would be a good start instead of saying there isn't anything we can do about it. because I think we could do plenty.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-31 at 2:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by playingindirt you probably know a lot more about it than I do. you definitely have a much better vocabulary. I like it. I didn't used to read much. I really tried but my ADHD is so bad staying focused was near impossible. I was treated for it a few months back and I can't seem to stop reading. so much to learn. It's exciting. I've even read the new federal budget. lolz it wasn't trump that fine pinned the detailed ways to manipulate it like it is. I think he is a front man. a stage man.
I'd really like to learn much much more about it. correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it's a matter of money available that's the problem. I do know if a corporation makes bad choices it can be disastrous.If I make bad choices I end up homeless. It isn't like that for corporations.
they're washing each others backs and letting americans holding the bag.
I think people ought to get more involved with just what's going on. political leaders depend on our ignorance to get what they want to happen. that would be a good start instead of saying there isn't anything we can do about it. because I think we could do plenty.
The first step to societal change is personal change.
You've clearly made that first step.
Keep on keepin' on.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-31 at 3:20 AM UTC
Originally posted by playingindirt oh na na na. lolz he doesn't want legal ones here either unless they're of his racial choosing and his choice of social status. he makes it very clear how all illegal immigrants are criminals and drug smugglers which is total crap. not once has he ever referred to any of them as people wanting a decent life for their families. and many are people with kids and families.
so using a technicality is just another way to exercise racism. If they weren't criminals before they are in his eyes by crossing the border even if it was a 10 year kid.
Well, of course if they cross illegally they are criminals. You know why? Because they broke the law. If you don't like the law change it, because you can't change the definition of criminal. If we did that, we'd have to change all the definitions for criminal in the dictionaries. Criminals break the law, and that's what these people want to do, and have already done. It's not one law for you, and another law for you, and another law for you, it's one set of laws for everybody, and if you want special treatment and are ready to break the law to get it, well then, fuck you. I think that's what President Trump is saying. -
2018-10-31 at 4:17 AM UTCSend me my god damn mexicans
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2018-10-31 at 2:17 PM UTCWell most don't enter for free...they pay a human smuggler X number of thousands usually.
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2018-10-31 at 3:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Well, of course if they cross illegally they are criminals. You know why? Because they broke the law. If you don't like the law change it, because you can't change the definition of criminal. If we did that, we'd have to change all the definitions for criminal in the dictionaries. Criminals break the law, and that's what these people want to do, and have already done. It's not one law for you, and another law for you, and another law for you, it's one set of laws for everybody, and if you want special treatment and are ready to break the law to get it, well then, fuck you. I think that's what President Trump is saying.
lolz if you run a red light and don't get caught does that not mean you didn't break the law and you're not a criminal? you're just as much as a criminal as anyone that breaks the law even if you don't get caught. like drug lords that don't get caught are still criminals.
trump isn't trying. he is a very good front man for a bunch of cronies he chose to help make him and them get richer. he is stirring up and manipulating the hearts and fears of good men that want so desperately to believe in the good of our nation. americans are fed up and want to do and believe in what's good for our nation. what appears to give them hope is a lie. trump is a very evil man. while he has americans attention his cronies are dismantling our rights and programs that help us so they can get richer.
americans needs do not exist in our politicians. big money is running the show. ignoring scientists about how we are destroying our environment and our future and our childrens future is big money. big money is made by corporations pretending to be in favor of helping the american people. it is just big profits that they don't share with us. wages don't increase, the big taxes breaks will only trickle down ending in american taxpayers holding the bag,and the dismantling of programs to appear to americans as taxes not going to waste.
have you even bothered to read the plans and design for the federal budget? It is very carefully worded to give people the impression that people can work are given an insensitive to find jobs so peoples taxes aren't wasted on moochers. all the while our most vulnerable americans are getting the boot right under our very noses. it will destroy them. meanwhile people wanna believe it must be a mistake and it's all basically for the good of our nation.
destroying the injured or vulnerable americans is completely opposite of what some programs are designed for. when people get hurt on the job or get too old and frail to work after they've paid into the system these programs won't work for them or if healing will take time, if they get cancer, yada yada.
If your moral compass doesn't tell you it's not okay to sacrifice vulnerable americans in the process of reforming programs designed to help us all then you are part of the problem and have the same affliction the politicians have.
there are many very fine pinned details called reforms that are very carefully designed to screw american taxpayers of their rights, their taxes, their benefits and their way of life.
