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Life on other planets
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2018-10-19 at 5:45 PM UTCI was thinking, what guarantees that life in other planets would be Darwinian? Could there be alternative mechanisms for generating complexity?
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2018-10-24 at 7:15 AM UTCIt’s hard to imagine what that would be outside of an intelligent species artificially manipulating the course of evolution.
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2018-10-24 at 7:19 AM UTCThere is other intelligent life, but not on our plane of existence.
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2018-10-24 at 1:56 PM UTC
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2018-10-24 at 5:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Anal Turing I was thinking, what guarantees that life in other planets would be Darwinian? Could there be alternative mechanisms for generating complexity?
freewill vs regulation.
life on other planet will be no more different than living in a gated housing community. compliance is of utmost importance. -
2018-10-24 at 5:41 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-10-24 at 6:21 PM UTC
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2018-10-24 at 7:03 PM UTC
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2018-10-24 at 8:47 PM UTC
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2018-10-24 at 9:33 PM UTC
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2018-10-24 at 11:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2.0 - The GMO Reckoning Hypothesising then? But it seems like you want to believe.
That is just your retarded nigger brain trying to find some means to "score a point" on me. I'm discussing potential parameters for non-darwinian mechanisms for complexity to naturally emerge. I haven't claimed that they do exist or that I believe I do. I'm discussing if and how it might actually be possible.
There's certainly no logical barrier to it existing, the question of whether or not it does or can is just a matter of finding the appropriate parameters for some other mechanism to generate complexity, and seeing whether or not the necessary conditions could reasonably come to occur naturally.
Darwinism itself isn't some embedded law of the universe, it is emergent from the complexity of more fundamental physical interactions. It is just a sorting algorithm that manifests itself in nature as biology in our environment.
We can see such "sorting algorithms" everywhere in different interactions in nature: the classic example is of the sorting of rocks on a beachhead by the waves. Heavier rocks require more energy to push, so lighter rocks are pushed further by a given wave. A wave's energy decreases as it passes the shoreline, so only smaller and smaller rocks are deposited at the end of a wave, before it recedes. This is why you see that sandy beaches have emerged next to the ocean; the sand is the smallest "rocks" deposited by the waves, granules. If you walk into the oceans, you will see the sand turn to pebbles, then to larger rocks. This is the result of natural "sorting" by the waves. Darwinism is just another such phenomenon. Under different circumstances, it is possible for other algorithms to generate complexity that might rival Darwinism. -
2018-10-25 at 1:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by Anal Turing That is just your retarded nigger brain trying to find some means to "score a point" on me. I'm discussing potential parameters for non-darwinian mechanisms for complexity to naturally emerge. I haven't claimed that they do exist or that I believe I do. I'm discussing if and how it might actually be possible.
There's certainly no logical barrier to it existing, the question of whether or not it does or can is just a matter of finding the appropriate parameters for some other mechanism to generate complexity, and seeing whether or not the necessary conditions could reasonably come to occur naturally.
Darwinism itself isn't some embedded law of the universe, it is emergent from the complexity of more fundamental physical interactions. It is just a sorting algorithm that manifests itself in nature as biology in our environment.
We can see such "sorting algorithms" everywhere in different interactions in nature: the classic example is of the sorting of rocks on a beachhead by the waves. Heavier rocks require more energy to push, so lighter rocks are pushed further by a given wave. A wave's energy decreases as it passes the shoreline, so only smaller and smaller rocks are deposited at the end of a wave, before it recedes. This is why you see that sandy beaches have emerged next to the ocean; the sand is the smallest "rocks" deposited by the waves, granules. If you walk into the oceans, you will see the sand turn to pebbles, then to larger rocks. This is the result of natural "sorting" by the waves. Darwinism is just another such phenomenon. Under different circumstances, it is possible for other algorithms to generate complexity that might rival Darwinism.
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2018-10-25 at 1:58 PM UTC
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2018-10-25 at 2:25 PM UTCAin't, dammit!
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2018-10-25 at 2:45 PM UTCBeings from other planets are drastically different than us,In many ways there are also the same as us.
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2018-10-25 at 2:49 PM UTCChances are that they are like dinosaurs and dumb as a rock. They ruled the planet for millions of years and still would if not for that asteroid.
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2018-10-25 at 2:50 PM UTCIt would probably have to be something which doesn't die. Like jellyfish, who only die due to predation.
If there were a life form that could evolve without reproduction (like evolving through mitosis or something) and didn't have any predators or dangers of any kind (maybe some kind of gaseous sack on an impossibly calm gas giant) then maybe, somehow, it could exist -
2018-10-25 at 2:50 PM UTCI imagine there's an overly dominant one just like earth
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2018-10-25 at 2:51 PM UTCI feel like it'd have to be genetically engineered, because any real world instance will introduce danger to the equation, which means death, and survival of the fittest.
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2018-10-25 at 4:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Anal Turing That is just your retarded nigger brain trying to find some means to "score a point" on me. I'm discussing potential parameters for non-darwinian mechanisms for complexity to naturally emerge. I haven't claimed that they do exist or that I believe I do. I'm discussing if and how it might actually be possible.
like i said ; rules and regu fucking lation.
