More Russian Collusion.

1. 2018-10-24 at 12:38 PM UTC

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   Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
   As we all know Trump us Putin's puppet. What none of you know is that Putin's plan is MAGA.
   
   
2. 2018-10-24 at 12:42 PM UTC

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   aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
   there's no way for the US to compete without somehow blocking Russian gas from the EU market, and given Germany's commitment to the Nord Stream 2 I don't see that happening
3. 2018-10-24 at 12:43 PM UTC

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   Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]

   Originally posted by aldra there's no way for the US to compete without somehow blocking Russian gas from the EU market, and given Germany's commitment to the Nord Stream 2 I don't see that happening

   
   You strike me as one of the more savoy people here. It's unfortunate your vision was clouded by indoctrination.
4. 2018-10-24 at 12:47 PM UTC

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   Soyboy 2.0 - The GMO Reckoning African Astronaut
   It's silly for the US to export natural gas - since the gas is just obtained by fracking and will be needed in future. It's like the UK going crazy exporting North Sea oil back in the '70s - and now having to import oil -instead of conserving it.
   
   But the whole thing right now for America is to stop either Europe or China allying with Russia.
5. 2018-10-24 at 12:57 PM UTC

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   aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition

   Originally posted by Speedy Parker It's unfortunate your vision was clouded by indoctrination.

   
   kek
   
   

   Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2.0 - The GMO Reckoning It's silly for the US to export natural gas - since the gas is just obtained by fracking and will be needed in future. It's like the UK going crazy exporting North Sea oil back in the '70s - and now having to import oil -instead of conserving it.
   
   But the whole thing right now for America is to stop either Europe or China allying with Russia.

   
   As I understand it the US has significant natural gas reserves, it's mostly crude oil that comes from shale/fracking. The economic concern is that it costs far more to ship it across the Atlantic than it does for Russia to pipe it in - logistics costs to actually get it to the European market make it noncompetitive.
   
   One of their major geopolitical goals is to drive a wedge between China and Russia, but everything they've done has instead forced them closer together.
   
   Europe's more of a long-term situation - short version is that Russia and China need the European market to exceed the US economically, so the US is doing everything it can to keep them out. When it eventually comes down to it, it's likely the US will try to collapse the EU if it seems that they're going to lose the market.
6. 2018-10-24 at 1:07 PM UTC

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   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Speedy Parker You strike me as one of the more savoy people here. It's unfortunate your vision was clouded by indoctrination.

   
   I know you can't be serious.
7. 2018-10-24 at 5:38 PM UTC

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   vindicktive vinny Black Hole

   Originally posted by aldra there's no way for the US to compete without somehow blocking Russian gas from the EU market, and given Germany's commitment to the Nord Stream 2 I don't see that happening

   
   if US decides to total sanction russia do you think germany will comply ?
8. 2018-10-24 at 5:49 PM UTC

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   vindicktive vinny Black Hole

   Originally posted by Speedy Parker You strike me as one of the more savoy people here. It's unfortunate your vision was clouded by indoctrination.

   
   the port isnt meant to be exclusively a receptacle for US LNG ships. it will recep any and every incoming ships with LNG to unload.
9. 2018-10-24 at 8:25 PM UTC

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   Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]

   Originally posted by aldra kek
   
   
   
   As I understand it the US has significant natural gas reserves, it's mostly crude oil that comes from shale/fracking. The economic concern is that it costs far more to ship it across the Atlantic than it does for Russia to pipe it in - logistics costs to actually get it to the European market make it noncompetitive.
   
   One of their major geopolitical goals is to drive a wedge between China and Russia, but everything they've done has instead forced them closer together.
   
   Europe's more of a long-term situation - short version is that Russia and China need the European market to exceed the US economically, so the US is doing everything it can to keep them out. When it eventually comes down to it, it's likely the US will try to collapse the EU if it seems that they're going to lose the market.

   
   The big problem with that scenario is the impending unavoidable collapse of the EU market.
10. 2018-10-24 at 8:26 PM UTC

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    Soyboy 2.0 - The GMO Reckoning African Astronaut

    Originally posted by Speedy Parker The big problem with that scenario is the impending unavoidable collapse of the EU market.

    
    y?
11. 2018-10-24 at 8:26 PM UTC

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    Soyboy 2.0 - The GMO Reckoning African Astronaut

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny the port isnt meant to be exclusively a receptacle for US LNG ships. it will recep any and every incoming ships with LNG to unload.

    
    Not true.
    
    Look at tankertracker on twitter.
12. 2018-10-24 at 8:32 PM UTC

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    vindicktive vinny Black Hole

    Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2.0 - The GMO Reckoning Not true.
    
    Look at tankertracker on twitter.

    
    well i dont have twitter.
13. 2018-10-24 at 11:32 PM UTC

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    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]

    Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2.0 - The GMO Reckoning y?

    
    Fiat