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  1. #1
    AngryOnion Big Wig [the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
    So I have a fairly new pc that I built with a dual boot win 8.1 and win 10.
    Multiple hard drives 5 with about 5 years of fuckall I dont know what,all will be cleaned.
    I want too dual boot linux, windows without grub,I have had lots of problems with grub in the past and do not want a repeat.
    Right now windows see's 8.1 and 10 as different how do I make windows see linux as separate.
    Also I plan on using two different hard drives for each os.
    I could probably just log into BIOS and boot from there but thats kind of a pain in the ass.
    I did do some youtube searches but I don't really trust what I see on youtube lots of bullshit.
    I know some of you have some REAl experience and knowledge so throw a nigga a bone if you can.
    My System specs.
    Shit can't copy pasta that shit.WTF?
    ok Most important would be the motheboard its a ASUS sabertooth z77 -Processor is a I7 3770 3.5
  2. #2
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Dual boot on Windows is dangerous. One OS will eventually "see" the other one and you won't be able to boot from it.
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  3. #3
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    grub's easy to use now, a lot easier than 5-10 years ago. anything else is a lot more complicated.

    if you install lunix on a partition and put grub on the MBR, it should automatically detect your other OS boot options
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  4. #4
    Virtualisation is getting better on Windows, especially with Hyper-V on Windows 10 Pro.

    For instance the latest update includes a new Hyper-V tool that lets you install Ubuntu with pretty good performance. And Docker, etc are things too.

    Dual Booting is something from the 90s when even basic machines were really expensive.
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  5. #5
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    yeah, virtualisation is another option, probably a better one if you don't need direct hardware access.

    I'm not a fan of hyper-V outside of 'enterprise' setups, generally Virtualbox works fine and is easy to use for day-to-day stuff
  6. #6
    Superhero Houston
    Virtual runs are good enough imo in the little that I've played with it seems like a viable choice, are u wanting to contain your workstation is this why you ask?
  7. #7
    AngryOnion Big Wig [the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
    Originally posted by Superhero Virtual runs are good enough imo in the little that I've played with it seems like a viable choice, are u wanting to contain your workstation is this why you ask?

    I just want to de-google and avoid all the tracking and shit,use a linux distro for the web and things I would like to keep secure and windows for games.
    I just do not like windows 10 for privacy reasons plus Microsoft has access to everything on my pc and that shit sucks.
    Thanks guys for your input and I'll post back what I've decided to do.
  8. #8
    AngryOnion Big Wig [the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Dual boot on Windows is dangerous. One OS will eventually "see" the other one and you won't be able to boot from it.

    Ya brother I've run into shit like that before and that's why I'm looking at other options this time around.
  9. #9
    cupocheer Space Nigga [unwillingly condescend the dp]
    Who would like to build me a system?
  10. #10
    AngryOnion Big Wig [the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
    Decided to skip the dual boot shit an dusted off an old Raspberry pi and installed rasperien stretch on it.
    Micro sd cards are cheep.
  11. #11
    AngryOnion Big Wig [the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
    I'll do clean install on my win 10 box and get ready for Fallout 76.
  12. #12
    SBTlauien African Astronaut
    Windows for privacy?

    I did a dual boot with Ubuntu and Windows some years ago. I put the boot loader on the HDD with Ubuntu. There were lots of issues.
  13. #13
    Grimace motherfucker [my enumerable hindi guideword]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Dual boot on Windows is dangerous. One OS will eventually "see" the other one and you won't be able to boot from it.

    Quote from a man who never ventured outside Windows XP and doesn't understand anything whatsoever about Linux, to the point he has to Google all his information about it, guys. Just saying.
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  14. #14
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    You know I think virtual box is pretty great software I use it to run windows stuff with it from time to time and think it's great in that capacity, but if you're keeping a windows install around for games I think that's a good case for a dual-boot setup.

    VB is not where it needs to be to make running windows for gaming on a OSX or linux host make sense. It's not that far away and if it ever gets there I'll be hyped, but it's not there yet. I've been keeping separate development and gaming hardware for a couple of years now and it works great but it's basically blowing double the money on hardware keeping the two setups current. If I was trying to save money on hardware at all the first thing I'd do is setup dualbooting to windows for games and linux or OSX as a daily driver.

    Aldra is right, GRUB has gotten a lot closer to "it just works" status in recent years. I've only had trouble with it once, but that was back in the day. Spectral is full of shit about OSs "seeing eachother". It's true that multiple systems on the same disk, or spread over different physical disks, are perfectly capable detecting each other in principle but I've never seen nor heard of some kind of conspiratorial code trying to sabotage another OS. Not that I think that's an echelon of evil OS vendors refuse to stoop to, just that the number of people who actually dual boot is so small you can't really justify fucking your customers to deter a small handful of hobbyists.
  15. #15
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Grimace Quote from a man who never ventured outside Windows XP and doesn't understand anything whatsoever about Linux, to the point he has to Google all his information about it, guys. Just saying.

    That's crazy.
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