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How to sleep after meth?
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2018-08-15 at 9:53 PM UTCI took some meth this morning and had an insane day of coding and writing, now it's about 14 hours later and I can tell my neurotransmitters are depleted, and I'm ready to go to sleep.
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2018-08-15 at 9:55 PM UTCMeth is degenerate shit for niggers and white trash
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2018-08-15 at 9:55 PM UTCBenzodiazepinesThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-08-15 at 10:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine Meth is degenerate shit for niggers and white trash
I think I have ADHD, it just makes me concentrate.
Originally posted by EllariaSand Benzodiazepines
Nah, they don't do much for me any more. But promethazine is OTC here, so I might take one now with some valerian tea. -
2018-08-15 at 10:06 PM UTC
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2018-08-15 at 11:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine You can get on disability for being an autist
I've basically been on disability since 2009 or so.
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OK, took 25mg Phenergan/Promethazine, 10mg Valium, a whole bottle of wine, some whiskey, and some herbal tea.
Still feel no closer to sleeping, though I feel like it'd help.
Another 25mg Phenergan maybe -
2018-08-16 at 1:38 AM UTCIf I had the answer for this I'd probably be a meth addict.
I used to take an antipsychotic to comedown/sleep, that worked but also made me feel like shit for 2 days during which time meth took extremely high doses to work.
Other than that, weed, meditation, chill music, yogurt, fuck alcohol IMO, but even if I can make myself sleep my eyes pop open in 3-4 hours and I still feel the shitty aftereffects. -
2018-08-16 at 1:39 AM UTCBenzos work too but that's the best way to get strung out so I didn't include it
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2018-08-16 at 2:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by Cootehill I think I have ADHD, it just makes me concentrate.
That's how stimulants work for most people, no ADHD required. I think Start Slate Codex has an atrocious following and I don't really like the writing style, but this post was pretty good I thought. The quote that seems most relevant:But “ability to concentrate” is a normally distributed trait, like IQ. We draw a line at some point on the far left of the bell curve and tell the people on the far side that they’ve “got” “the disease” of “ADHD”. This isn’t just me saying this. It’s the neurostructural literature, the the genetics literature, a bunch of other studies, and the the Consensus Conference On ADHD. This doesn’t mean ADHD is “just laziness” or “isn’t biological” – of course it’s biological! Height is biological! But that doesn’t mean the world is divided into two natural categories of “healthy people” and “people who have Height Deficiency Syndrome“. Attention is the same way. Some people really do have poor concentration, they suffer a lot from it, and it’s not their fault. They just don’t form a discrete population.
Meanwhile, Adderall works for people whether they “have” “ADHD” or not. It may work better for people with ADHD – a lot of them report an almost “magical” effect – but it works at least a little for most people. There is a vast literature trying to disprove this. Its main strategy is to show Adderall doesn’t enhance cognition in healthy people. Fine. But mostly it doesn’t enhance cognition in people with ADHD either. People aren’t using Adderall to get smart, they’re using it to focus. -
2018-08-16 at 3:10 AM UTCYeah, putting 6 year olds on that shit is abuse and torture
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2018-08-16 at 3:11 AM UTCYou just eventually get used to the effects, and learn to sleep on it
Meth is a bit of an "all or nothing" drug, unless you keep it to the weekends. Even then though, one solid hit of the good shit will keep you awake three days -
2018-08-16 at 3:20 AM UTCI was especially sensitive to it, but I had a script for 20-40mg Adderall in HS bc I manipulated my doctor into giving me an adderall/xanax dual script.
I had to quit taking it after a few months because the peripheral stimulation went so hard on my back.
In college I asked if I could go back on it bc I was falling asleep in class bc of xanax. I got 30mg dexedrine every day and I never learned how to sleep on it. I'd stay up until 4 every night and wake ip at 7 and go to class.
I always smelled like ammonia/death, had bruxism, was sweaty, and my muscles hurt. I was twacked out and barred out at the same time.
10mg dex per dose isn't even that bad these days, kids can get 2 vyvanse 70's a day. Ahhhh vyvanse!
Btw if anyone WANTS some of those yellow powdery zanzedi motherfuckers...The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-08-16 at 3:24 AM UTCAlso I don't really understand how it's supposed to make hyperactive kids calm and focused.
I'm not hyperactive and I can't focus on anything on amph. I'm scatterbrained and switching trains of thought every few minutes
I want to seea study of grades pre amph and grades post amph -
2018-08-16 at 3:33 AM UTCWhy would you take meth if you know you want to sleep soon after?
My advice would be to know what amount generally keeps you up for what amount of time, and then use that to determine appropriate dosage in accordance with when you hope to sleep.
At the end of the day, you can't be using meth and saying whoahh what why can't I sleep why I am awake so long?? Lol. That's the fucking point. -
2018-08-16 at 6:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano I was especially sensitive to it, but I had a script for 20-40mg Adderall in HS bc I manipulated my doctor into giving me an adderall/xanax dual script.
I had to quit taking it after a few months because the peripheral stimulation went so hard on my back.
In college I asked if I could go back on it bc I was falling asleep in class bc of xanax. I got 30mg dexedrine every day and I never learned how to sleep on it. I'd stay up until 4 every night and wake ip at 7 and go to class.
I always smelled like ammonia/death, had bruxism, was sweaty, and my muscles hurt. I was twacked out and barred out at the same time.
10mg dex per dose isn't even that bad these days, kids can get 2 vyvanse 70's a day. Ahhhh vyvanse!
Btw if anyone WANTS some of those yellow powdery zanzedi motherfuckers…
Trying to do shit while being on addy and barred out at the same time is horrible. In general it's a shitty combo, benzos are only good on the comedown. Having both fairly active at the same time just feels like the worst of both, you can't relax but you have benzo retardation at the same time.
I feel like you have to be a pretty retarded doctor to prescribe both, if you have significant anxiety problems at baseline you shouldn't be taking stims. Giving someone both is like the "I'll drink some coffee to sober up" logic, just dumb. -
2018-08-16 at 10:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Trying to do shit while being on addy and barred out at the same time is horrible. In general it's a shitty combo, benzos are only good on the comedown. Having both fairly active at the same time just feels like the worst of both, you can't relax but you have benzo retardation at the same time.
I feel like you have to be a pretty retarded doctor to prescribe both, if you have significant anxiety problems at baseline you shouldn't be taking stims. Giving someone both is like the "I'll drink some coffee to sober up" logic, just dumb.
A childhood friend of mine was prescribed Vyvanse, Depakote, Abilify and Seroquel at the same time.
He was a fucking mess. Constantly in and out of psych ward, staying between family members because they could only tolerate him so long, etc. I tried telling his mother that the doctor was a retard that was just trying to make money but there's OBVIOUSLY NO WAY this 17 year old kid could know better than a DOCTOR, RIGHT???
He's lucky he wasn't getting grand mal seizures -
2018-08-16 at 11:02 AM UTCBenzos and speed are a bomb ass combo. I feel the exact opposite about the side-effects.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-08-20 at 2:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Why would you take meth if you know you want to sleep soon after?
My advice would be to know what amount generally keeps you up for what amount of time, and then use that to determine appropriate dosage in accordance with when you hope to sleep.
At the end of the day, you can't be using meth and saying whoahh what why can't I sleep why I am awake so long?? Lol. That's the fucking point.
As your dopamine agonism decreases, you progressively lose your ability to believe in yourself to carry out your plans of responsible usage. (No using until after a good night's sleep) and eventually you get up after laying there thinking about it for half a night and do some so you can stop thinking about it and "get something productive accomplished" before it's too late to dose if you expect to sleep the next night. It would be a bit different for true chippers. But they won't understand the power of this force...
