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2018-07-11 at 9:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Well mommy dog and daddy dog were put in a pen by mommy dog and daddy dogs owners….
So they bred because they couldn't resist their natural urges (being dogs, and all), but who they bred with was chosen by humans. Do you think mommy dog and daddy dog would have bred or even survived to breed without the owners? What reason according to nature did the owners have to select for a dog that was useless? -
2018-07-11 at 9:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Any doubt whatsoever precludes you from believing something? Did nature intend for you to be this fucking obstuse?
No the dictionary did.
A belief is a conviction in something...if you doubt it, it's not a conviction/belief.
...and again to seed doubt there would need to be a seed... there is ZERO evidence to the contrary that we are a product of nature...aka no doubt, no seed. -
2018-07-11 at 9:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS So they bred because they couldn't resist their natural urges (being dogs, and all), but who they bred with was chosen by humans. Do you think mommy dog and daddy dog would have bred or even survived to breed without the owners?
Um we are back to the fact humans are part of nature...whether humans chose the dogs partners or not..it's all a result of nature...
If the humans chose a Giraffe and hamster I doubt they would have been successful, nature has to "allow" and set the parameters of human involvement. -
2018-07-11 at 9:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Um we are back to the fact humans are part of nature…whether humans chose the dogs partners or not..it's all a result of nature…
Yeah I elucidated a bit on that - if the decision to breed those dogs was "nature", what part of nature? What natural inclination drove men to take a tool and turn it into a joke? You seem to use nature the way bible thumpers use god. -
2018-07-11 at 9:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Yeah I elucidated a bit on that - if the decision to breed those dogs was "nature", what part of nature. Because you seem to use nature the way bible thumpers use god.
The part of nature than gave man the brainpower and will to cross breed...the ultimate goal being for example making his life easier by domesticating crops and animals for eating purposes...securing a good food source. -
2018-07-11 at 9:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson The part of nature than gave man the brainpower and will to cross breed.
Yeah, what part of nature dictate's what man willed in this case? It wasn't hunger... a desire for a strong family unit... it wasn't for protection, or to serve one of man's needs.
What part of nature? Again, you're using nature almost religiously, as though nature itself were god. -
2018-07-11 at 9:29 PM UTCTG'S talking about strong family units...LMAO.
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2018-07-11 at 9:31 PM UTC
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2018-07-11 at 9:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Yeah, what part of nature dictate's what man willed in this case? It wasn't hunger… a desire for a strong family unit… it wasn't for protection, or to serve one of man's needs.
What part of nature? Again, you're using nature almost religiously, as though nature itself were god.
I just told you, the part that resulted in man creating domesticated animals (and crops). Now obviously man took the "gift from nature" and used it not only to create good food sources but also to create cute little companions to make him feel better and so his hot wife could carry it around in her handbag..thereby strengthening the bond between male and female which gifts do...and not just among humans but in the animal kingdom too where "gifts" are often offered to mates, food, shelter etc etc.
Simply because the rat dog has no use by nature doesn't mean it's not a product of nature. It's a product of the process nature put in place.
Again, try it with a giraffe and hamster..it's not going to work because nature never intended for that to work... now animals of the same species? of course...as it creates genetic diversity.
Again, nature is full of dead ends...it experiments...some things work out...some things don't...obviously and when man is eradicated or evolves into something else...then the selective breeding of dogs will stop and that dead end will come to a natural stop. -
2018-07-11 at 9:35 PM UTCMental illness does not help the survival of Mankind.
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2018-07-11 at 9:38 PM UTCIn the mean time while we wait for man to evolve and stop creating tiny dogs...THE NATIVE AMERICANS CAN GO THE FUCK BACK TO ASIA.
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2018-07-11 at 9:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I just told you, the part that resulted in man creating domesticated animals (and crops). Now obviously man took the "gift from nature" and used it not only to create good food sources but also to create cute little companions to make him feel better and so his hot wife could carry it around in her handbag..thereby strengthening the bond between male and female which gifts do…and not just among humans but in the animal kingdom too where "gifts" are often offered to mates, food, shelter etc etc.
Simply because the rat dog has no use by nature doesn't mean it's not a product of nature. It's a product of the process nature put in place.
Again, try it with a giraffe and hamster..it's not going to work because nature never intended for that to work? now animals of the same species? of course…as it creates genetic diversity.
Again, nature is full of dead ends…it experiments…some things work out…some things don't…obviously and when man is eradicated or evolves into something else…then the selective breeding of dogs will stop and that dead end will come to a natural stop.
Like TGs...they are not a product of nature. Flawed genetics or mental illness caused the abnormalities. Like how massive abortions which goes against nature has affected normal birth and created enormous medical problems in women. -
2018-07-11 at 9:42 PM UTCI can't believe I'm arguing a flavor of ree will vs determinism in a thread where I started off shitposting about giving indians back their land. And I can't believe I'm arguing in favor of free will. 😂
This is fucking stupid. I admit defeat or whatever. I believe everything is deterministic and the inevitable result of the starting conditions of the universe. I can't think of any more potential counterarguments. And I'm bored. -
2018-07-11 at 9:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by joerell Like TGs…they are not a product of nature. Flawed genetics or mental illness caused the abnormalities. Like how massive abortions which goes against nature has affected normal birth and created enormous medical problems in women.
Well they are, they are mutations...sometimes mutations are good, such as a mutation that creates an immunity to a disease...other times they are not so good, such as a mutation that results in a dude chopping his own tallywacker off...that's of course is a dead end...literally and figuratively. -
2018-07-11 at 9:44 PM UTC
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2018-07-11 at 9:44 PM UTC
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2018-07-11 at 9:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Well they are, they are mutations…sometimes mutations are good, such as a mutation that creates an immunity to a disease…other times they are not so good, such as a mutation that results in a dude chopping his own tallywacker off…that's of course is a dead end…literally and figuratively.
Except they can save their sperm from before they cut it off and have in vitro fertilized babies. Despite being what should be a dead end, they aren't. How... unnatural. -
2018-07-11 at 9:47 PM UTC
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2018-07-11 at 9:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Except they can save their sperm from before they cut it off and have in vitro fertilized babies. Despite being what should be a dead end, they aren't. How… unnatural.
Well again nature gave man the brainpower he has...so anything he is capable of doing, is natural...even if man himself is too dumb to understand that and attempts to misuse it.
Again though...long term nature wins...man has been around a few seconds on the clock of history... -
2018-07-11 at 9:48 PM UTC
