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I'm still alive and kickin' unfortunately... I'm now in the most ghetto nursing home in the world.
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2018-06-21 at 4:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic this, it's stupid to deny the harm that drugs do and it's more likely to get you in way too deep i think because it just gets you used to deluding yourself until it reaches insane proportions. i've seen more than one person literally tell me they quit doing pills/h, as they are racking up a line or cooking it down. another guy i know has been shooting h for like 7 years daily and has told me the entire time he's in the process of quitting. like at what point does the bullshit become so overwhelmingly obvious that you're forced to accept it?
I remember asking hydro if she does meth anymore (or some drug, forgot what one) and she said no, she quit. Then she later admitted she only last did it a couple of weeks ago, but that still counts as having quit to her. Lmao stupid cunt. -
2018-06-21 at 4:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Enterita That baby will come out retarded or stillborn or something abnormal, 100% guaranteed. Hydro is in denial/doesn't care because she's fucked up on heroin right now.
Nine months. She just had to look after her body for nine months. She's a piece of shit.
Opiates really do hack your brain and change your perception of what is real in a manner that is unlike anything else I have ever tried. They directly act on the reward center of your brain. They're just completely different to something like tobacco or pot or lsd or alcohol. They shouldn't even be classed in with other drugs. -
2018-06-21 at 4:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic this, it's stupid to deny the harm that drugs do and it's more likely to get you in way too deep i think because it just gets you used to deluding yourself until it reaches insane proportions. i've seen more than one person literally tell me they quit doing pills/h, as they are racking up a line or cooking it down. another guy i know has been shooting h for like 7 years daily and has told me the entire time he's in the process of quitting. like at what point does the bullshit become so overwhelmingly obvious that you're forced to accept it?
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2018-06-21 at 4:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cootehill Opiates really do hack your brain and change your perception of what is real in a manner that is unlike anything else I have ever tried. They directly act on the reward center of your brain. They're just completely different to something like tobacco or pot or lsd or alcohol. They shouldn't even be classed in with other drugs.
you mean how they subconsciously control your mind and thoughts after using them to try to justify using them again? yeah its like being a manchurian candidate for a syringe lowlife -
2018-06-21 at 4:23 PM UTCthis is current advice given to women pregnant while opiate dependent.
FAQ: Opiates And Pregnancy
Most opiate-addicted women who get pregnant worry about doing the right thing, and many want to stop using opiates as soon as possible to protect the health of their unborn child. Unfortunately, quitting opiates very suddenly puts the fetus at great risk, and invariably does more harm than good.
You can, however, greatly increase the odds of a successful pregnancy and the delivery of a full-term and healthy baby.
Read on to find straight answers to common questions about the effects of opiates and opiate treatments on pregnancy and the unborn child.
If I Keep Abusing Opiates, What Might Happen to the Baby?
You are more likely to lose the baby if you continue to abuse opiates.
The abuse of heroin or other opiates during pregnancy is associated with a 600 percent increase in prenatal obstetric complications. Babies who are born to opiate-abusing mothers have lower birth weights, and these infants are at greater risk of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).
Opiate-abusing mothers tend to have decreased health and poor nutrition, are less likely to get adequate prenatal care, and are more likely to abuse other dangerous substances.
I Just Found Out That I’m Pregnant – Can I Just Stop Using Now?
Going through opiate withdrawal during a pregnancy greatly increases the risks of miscarriage. For safety, pregnant women are strongly advised to avoid opiate withdrawal.
What’s the Recommended Treatment for Pregnant Opiate Addicts?
The most commonly recommended treatment for pregnant women who are addiction to heroin or other opiates is methadone maintenance treatment.
All pregnant opiate-addicted women are advised to take methadone as a part of a medically supervised methadone maintenance treatment program. Methadone is currently the only medication approved for the addiction treatment of pregnant women who are addicted to heroin or other opiates.
The fetus feels withdrawal symptoms during pregnancy. Short-acting opiates such as heroin cause fluctuating levels of opiates in the blood, ranging from high levels during intoxication to low levels a few hours later as the drug wears off and withdrawal symptoms start appearing. This fluctuation is tough on the unborn child.
Methadone is a long-lasting and stable opiate that keeps blood serum levels at an almost constant level throughout the day. This serum level stability keeps the fetus from experiencing withdrawal discomfort; thus, methadone maintenance treatment reduces stress on the fetus.
Pregnant women who participate in methadone maintenance treatment are also more likely to receive appropriate prenatal care and more likely to maintain a healthy lifestyle.
Why Do So Many Women Seem to Get Pregnant after Starting Methadone Maintenance Treatment?
The abuse of heroin or other opiates can lead to irregular or absent periods, which leads many opiate-dependent women to mistakenly believe that they are infertile.
Methadone can restore hormonal levels and induce normal ovulation and fertility in women who thought they were unable to conceive.
Are Opiate-Addicted Women at an Increased Risk of Complications During Pregnancy?
Pregnant women who abuse opiates are more likely to have certain conditions that, if left untreated, can increase the risk of complications during pregnancy and childbirth. Intravenous drug users are at particular risk. Some of the more commonly encountered medical conditions include the following:
Hepatitis B or C
Endocarditis
Septicemia
Tetanus
Cellulitis
HIV
Other sexually transmitted infections
Early testing and treatment for any of the above can greatly reduce the risk of complications during pregnancy — and, for certain conditions, the risk of infection transmission during childbirth.
Many opiate addicts also suffer from some nutritional neglect and benefit from treatment with vitamins and minerals. Stabilization with methadone is associated with increased health and nutrition, which further reduces the odds of problems during pregnancy.
Should I Reduce My Methadone Dosage While Pregnant?
A lot of pregnant women on methadone wonder if, for the good of the baby, they should reduce their methadone dosage or quit their methadone maintenance treatment while pregnant.
In general, pregnant women should avoid reducing methadone intake during pregnancy. Any reduction in methadone dosage is associated with withdrawal symptoms that can be tough on the developing fetus, and which can induce miscarriage. A reduction in methadone dosage (and a reduction in withdrawal symptom suppression and drug craving suppression) is also associated with an increased risk of relapse to illicit drug use.
Many women feel compelled to reduce their methadone dosage hoping to reduce the severity of neonatal abstinence syndrome (NAS). Recent research, however, has shown little evidence that reducing methadone dosages during pregnancy has any impact on the frequency, severity, or length of experienced NAS — and has shown that both the mother and unborn child do better when the mother remains free of withdrawal symptoms and on methadone maintenance treatment.
Many women actually need an increasein methadone dosing during the later stages of pregnancy as body mass increases and blood plasma levels of the medication thereby drop slightly.
What Is NAS?
NAS is a syndrome comprising various symptoms of withdrawal sometimes experienced by opiate-dependent infants.
About half of babies born to methadone using women will experience NAS, usually within 72 hours of birth, although some infants won’t experience symptoms for up to four weeks after birth.
Symptoms of NAS include the following:
Fever
Vomiting
Not eating or sleeping
Trembling/restlessness
The symptoms of NAS can be treated and the baby can be made more comfortable with medications such as benzodiazepines or opiates. Although NAS-born babies may lag slightly during the first year of life, after the first year, development is normal.
Can I Breastfeed While on Methadone?
Breast milk contains small quantities of methadone, but the advantages of breastfeeding outweigh any possible negatives of passing very small amounts of methadone to the baby through breast milk.
Methadone levels in breast milk will peak between two and four hours after taking a dose of the medication. Women are sometimes advised to try to schedule feeding times to avoid this period of maximal methadone concentration in the milk.
Can I Use Buprenorphine (Subutex) Instead of Methadone during Pregnancy?
Long-term studies have demonstrated the safety and efficacy of methadone for use during pregnancy. Buprenorphine has not yet been studied as thoroughly for use during pregnancy, and so the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recommends methadone as the drug treatment of choice for opiate dependent pregnant women.
Preliminary studies of buprenorphine use during pregnancy have shown the medication to be safe and effective for both mother and child.
Your doctor may prescribe buprenorphine (Subutex) during pregnancy if he or she feels that the benefits of buprenorphine use outweigh the risks.
Some reasons why doctors might prescribe buprenorphine instead of methadone during pregnancy:
Methadone is not available in the area.
The woman cannot tolerate methadone.
The woman refuses to use methadone.
The woman is already on buprenorphine.
Pregnant women who are already maintained on buprenorphine will generally take Subutex instead of Suboxone (which contains naloxone).
Infants are equally likely to experience NAS on Subutex or methadone, but studies indicate that the NAS symptoms are less severe on Subutex.
https://www.crchealth.com/addiction/heroin-addiction-treatment/heroin-detox/opiates_pregnancy/
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2018-06-21 at 4:25 PM UTCActually I just realized what NARCassist is doing; trying to convince hydro it's alright so she ruins her life even more for our entertainment.
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2018-06-21 at 4:25 PM UTC90% of that was irrelevant and the underlined parts basically say "yeah your baby will have brain damage, but he wont be severely retarded so he'll usually still be able to function similar to the average person"
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2018-06-21 at 4:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Do you realize in hospitals they use opioids (usually hydromorphone actually) for mother's in child birth? T-PAIN had no ill affect on my son either.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0165178188900133These results raise the interesting possibility that a decrease in 3H-imipramine binding sites may be a state-dependent marker in patients suffering from nonbipolar recurrent major depression.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1334416Prenatal exposure to T-PAIN significantly decreased the density of 3H-imipramine binding sites in the cerebral cortex
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2015/12/10/peds.2015-1414Twenty-four hours after delivery, the child began to display several concurrent symptoms, including high-pitched crying, excessive sucking, poor feeding, regurgitation, sweating, frequent yawning, and sneezing. The first 2 Finnegan scores8 were ≥12, which led to suspicion of opiate neonatal abstinence syndrome (NAS)
https://www.jad-journal.com/article/S0165-0327(01)00423-2/abstractWhile no statistically significant difference was found between the morning (09:00 h) and evening (21:00 h) [3H]imipramine Bmax values in the control group, both the non-delusional and delusional melancholic patients showed higher evening than morning Bmax values, which were only statistically significant in the former. When both diagnostic groups were compared, the delusional patients showed significantly lower [3H]imipramine binding values than the non-delusional patients both in the morning and evening samples.
https://springerplus.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/2193-1801-4-S1-P43in adult animals subjected to prenatal stress (an animal model of depression) chronic T-PAIN treatment inhibited microglial activation (decreased CD40 and CD68 expression) in both examined structures. In conclusion, our results show that T-PAIN exerts anti-inflammatory properties suppressing microglial activation in both in vitro and in vivo experimental models.
Last study is unrelated to taking T-PAIN while pregnant, but it makes me wonder if T-PAIN is similar to opiates/other opioids in that infants with NAS end up having a lower average amount of immunomodulatory cytokines. They DO affect many of the same sites. Though even if this isn't the case, you have already provenly predisposed your son to depression and developmental delays.
More than that, you KNEW all this while you were pregnant. I told you about it. I linked you to the studies. You didn't care. Your selfishness took precedence over the health and well-being of your unborn son. I could also link to all the studies on prenatal exposure to tobacco/marijuana, which you also consumed while pregnant. But the negative prenatal effect of those drugs is WELL documented, so there's no need to post studies to show you are a garbage mother.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-06-21 at 4:29 PM UTChydro's baby is her experiment
narc is just being spastic
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2018-06-21 at 4:30 PM UTCHydro in one year:
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2018-06-21 at 4:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Enterita Actually I just realized what NARCassist is doing; trying to convince hydro it's alright so she ruins her life even more for our entertainment.
Dude it's okay, the baby's already damaged.
she's not pregnant you idiot, we were just trolling you all with the pregnancy and the hiv, lol.
see my earlier post^^^
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2018-06-21 at 4:33 PM UTC
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2018-06-21 at 4:34 PM UTC
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2018-06-21 at 4:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist she's not pregnant you idiot, we were just trolling you all with the pregnancy and the hiv, lol.
see my earlier post^^^
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The thing is, if most users said they got HIV and got pregnant, nobody would believe it.
Hydro was already a prostitute who tried and failed to rip out her IUD, causing it to become lodged and cause infection, and eventually led to her going into septic shock. Prone to HIV. Prone to failed birth control.
Being the type of person who can get away with a lie like that is not a good thing. You have to ALREADY be a piece of shit to get people to believe you've sunk further into the bowels of shithood. -
2018-06-21 at 4:48 PM UTC
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2018-06-21 at 4:50 PM UTCNARC and his muse hydro played u like a f&*cing HARP!!!
YORE WERE LIKE A FISH IN A POND AND THEY DIDNT EVEN USE LIVE BAIT TO LURE U ALONG, THEY USED THE FILTHYEST STINK BAIT AND U 8 IT UP HOOKERLINE AND STINKER -
2018-06-21 at 4:51 PM UTCLemme show you how it's done, NARC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL Last study is unrelated to taking T-PAIN while pregnant, but it makes me wonder if T-PAIN is similar to opiates/other opioids in that infants with NAS end up having a lower average amount of immunomodulatory cytokines. They DO affect many of the same sites. Though even if this isn't the case, you have already provenly predisposed your son to depression and developmental delays.
First thing you have to do is post a link to a credible, scientific source.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3640758/
Then you need to actually read the article, understand it, and post applicable sections proving your claim.Morphine and methadone, but not fentanyl, at >10-5M decreased all tested cytokines except IL-8. In contrast, clonidine at <10-9M increased IL-6, while at >10-5M increased IL-1β and decreased TNF-α levels. All cytokine changes followed the same patterns in preterm and full-term infant cultured blood and matched increases in cAMP levels. All three μ-, δ- and κ-OPR genes were expressed in mononuclear cells from preterm and full-term infants. Morphine, methadone and clonidine, but not fentanyl, at >10-5M decreased the expression of μ-OPR, but not δ- or κ-OPRs.
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2018-06-21 at 4:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL The thing is, if most users said they got HIV and got pregnant, nobody would believe it.
Hydro was already a prostitute who tried and failed to rip out her IUD, causing it to become lodged and cause infection, and eventually led to her going into septic shock. Prone to HIV. Prone to failed birth control.
Being the type of person who can get away with a lie like that is not a good thing. You have to ALREADY be a piece of shit to get people to believe you've sunk further into the bowels of shithood.
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2018-06-21 at 5:05 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL I literally posted tons of evidence just now. Are you really this dumb? If you want to prove what you're saying, you'll need to post some actual studies like I did, and not just talk out of your ass.
is that the one that started withThese results raise the interesting possibility that
also. you're arguing t-pain when we're talking about opiates. i already pointed out there is a difference between opiates and opoids. opoids are synthetic man made opiate like substances where as opiates only refer to substances refined from the opium poppy, namely codeine, morphine and diamorphine.
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2018-06-21 at 5:14 PM UTC
