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We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-06-20 at 5:01 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-06-20 at 5:03 AM UTC
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2018-06-20 at 5:49 AM UTC
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2018-06-20 at 8:23 AM UTCSo when I find a tick on me, with its POKER stuck in me, and I light a match, blow it out, and put thee hot end on the ticks butt the tick immediately removes itself from me including its stinger. That's pain or trigger?
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2018-06-20 at 8:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ So when I find a tick on me, with its POKER stuck in me, and I light a match, blow it out, and put thee hot end on the ticks butt the tick immediately removes itself from me including its stinger. That's pain or trigger?
TRICK QUESTION. pain isn't an emotion regardless of whether it causes an emotional response. it's more or less a sense organ's way of telling the brain BAD THING HAPPAN. -
2018-06-20 at 8:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra TRICK QUESTION. pain isn't an emotion regardless of whether it causes an emotional response. it's more or less a sense organ's way of telling the brain BAD THING HAPPAN.
So what's the trick? If tick thinks BAD THING isn't that negative for the tick aka tick doesn't want it aka tick can feel its own pain of sorts? -
2018-06-20 at 8:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ So what's the trick? If tick thinks BAD THING isn't that negative for the tick aka tick doesn't want it aka tick can feel its own pain of sorts?
yeah. the trick is spectral trying to imply that bugs can't feel pain because they don't necessarily interpret the nerve signals the way mammals do. -
2018-06-20 at 9:01 AM UTChow do I keep getting subscribed to this thread
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2018-06-20 at 11:10 AM UTC
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2018-06-21 at 12:36 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain So is language. But undoubtedly evolution has played a role in its development and perpetuation. Such is the case with emotions and induction.
something something universal grammar some anarcho syndicalism
Originally posted by Obbe Oh, I thought you did think it was ok to eat like fish or plants something because those life forms are not "morally considerable".
I do think it's ok to eat plants and that plants, to the best of our knowledge, are not morally considerable. The reason they're not morally considerable and some animals are is not because I choose which things are and aren't morally considerably, but rather because morally considerable things have the ability to experience well being or suffering while plants don't seem to. -
2018-06-21 at 1:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny …The reason they're not morally considerable and some animals are is not because I choose which things are and aren't morally considerably, but rather because morally considerable things have the ability to experience well being or suffering while plants don't seem to.
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2018-06-21 at 1:42 AM UTC
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2018-06-21 at 1:48 AM UTCINVERTEBRATES
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2018-06-21 at 2:04 AM UTCMaybe bugs cant feel pain the same way we do because MAAAYBE the pain they feel is much, much, MUCH, worse.
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2018-06-21 at 2:07 AM UTCGreat now I need a hug.
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2018-06-21 at 2:11 AM UTCBut remember that also means when a bug is happy they're really really REALLY fucking happy and that's probably the vast overwhelming majority of their lifespan so, ya know, there's that.
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2018-06-21 at 2:13 AM UTCNope. Gonna be sad for the rest of the week.
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2018-06-21 at 2:16 AM UTCThe book on the morality of eating animals has now been closed by me, apparently.
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2018-06-21 at 3:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Before we start out and discussing wether or not insects are morally considerable, we should be on the same page about whether or not they have central nervous systems like humans do.
I think we should already be on the same page, but you would rather split ganglia. My point was that they have a completely different system, so we can't compare human/animal systems to the systems insects have.
