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WTC an Inside job?
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2018-06-08 at 1:20 AM UTC
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2018-06-08 at 1:23 AM UTC
Originally posted by apt Which isn't even 0.1% of professional engineers in the USA alone
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are you saying out of 300 million people in the USA that 2.3 Million of them are architech and engineers? I think your figure is a bit a skewed to suggest that 1 in 130 humans in the USA alone is a professional architect and designer with an engineering degree. -
2018-06-08 at 1:26 AM UTC
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2018-06-08 at 1:27 AM UTCCall up pics of the Pentagon strike. You will see a round hole, and that's it. Both sides of the hole are relatively unscathed, and some pics show unbroken windows on both sides of the hole. The wingspan of that plane was over 175 feet, and the fuel is in the wings, so 175 feet of the wall would have been charred black from the explosion of the wings, but as we can plainly see from the pics, those nearby walls are virtually unscathed. Not scientifically possible, so we know for 100% fact no passenger plane hit the Pentagon.
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2018-06-08 at 1:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Call up pics of the Pentagon strike. You will see a round hole, and that's it. Both sides of the hole are relatively unscathed, and some pics show unbroken windows on both sides of the hole. The wingspan of that plane was over 175 feet, and the fuel is in the wings, so 175 feet of the wall would have been charred black from the explosion of the wings, but as we can plainly see from the pics, those nearby walls are virtually unscathed. Not scientifically possible, so we know for 100% fact no passenger plane hit the Pentagon.
the very spot, that was hit was not reinforced. that makes it even more suspect than it being able to penetrate it as reinforced because it just happen to be where the plane hit? or purposely aimed for that area which also had the only other server of the missing 2.3 trillion in lost DoD funded gone missing. the other server was lost in Building WTC 7.
this whole thing is clearly intentional for profit and not a simple Arab attack on America. but the Wahabi Royal Bin Ladens paid for it and then tried to blame it on the black sheep of their family, Osama. -
2018-06-08 at 1:35 AM UTCThey also had all the evidence in the Enron scandal and other high profile prosecutions stored in WTC7. Just weeks after the attacks, they dropped all the cases for "lack of evidence".
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2018-06-08 at 1:45 AM UTCnigger
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2018-06-08 at 1:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by apt AE 9/11 truth is notorious for misrepresenting and misunderstanding the facts. It's a group of people who have engineering/architectural experience but not necessarily relevant expertise. You don't know this because you obviously don't have a scientific background and don't bother to research the extensive refutations of their claims. Like I said, you probably haven't even read the NIST report. All I've seen in this thread is you feeding your confirmation bias.
Also, it's not nearly as difficult as you insinuate to get published. If they had any concrete evidence they would have been able to get an article in a reputable journal in 17 years.
One search and you could find the numbers yourself. But yes, there are roughly 3 million engineers in the US.
an Engineer is used in a broad spectrum of fields. Specifically Architectural engineers however are far less than the 3 million you claim.
there are about 105,000 current licensed Architectural Engineers in the USA.
Number of Licensed Architects (US)
Licensed architects in each state are divided into two categories: resident and reciprocal, or non-resident, registrants. Based on current population levels, the chart below also calculates the per capita number of resident architects in each state. The following information is from the National Council of Architectural Registration Boards’ 2010 survey.
State Resident Architects Reciprocal Registrations Total Population Per Capita # of Resident
Architects per 100,000
Alabama 901 1,853 2,754 4,833,722 19
Alaska 257 365 622 735,132 35
Arizona 2,164 3,897 6,061 6,626,624 33
Arkansas 495 850 1,345 2,959,373 17
California 16,191 3,708 19,899 38,332,521 42
Colorado 3,256 3,225 6,481 5,268,367 62
Connecticut 1,514 2,794 4,308 3,596,080 42
Delaware 118 1,538 1,656 925,749 13
D.C. 699 2,426 3,125 646,449 108
Florida 4,491 4,427 8,918 19,552,860 23
Georgia 2,404 2,952 5,356 9,992,167 24
Hawaii 1,027 1,345 2,372 1,404,054 73
Idaho 491 1,173 1,664 1,612,136 30
Illinois 5,306 3,740 9,046 12,882,135 41
Indiana 1,056 1,836 2,892 6,570,902 16
Iowa 1,106 2,482 3,588 3,090,416 36
Kansas 936 1,838 2,774 2,893,957 32
Kentucky 718 1,641 2,359 4,395,295 16
Louisiana 1,213 2,038 3,251 4,625,470 26
Maine 425 1,094 1,519 1,328,302 32
Maryland 1,995 3,745 5,740 5,928,814 34
Massachusetts 3,715 2,912 6,627 6,692,824 56
Michigan 2,570 3,132 5,702 9,895,622 26
Minnesota 1,947 1,534 3,481 5,420,380 36
Mississippi 364 1,512 1,876 2,991,207 12
Missouri 2,055 3,015 5,070 6,044,171 34
Montana 441 957 1,398 1,015,165 43
Nebraska 546 1,234 1,780 1,868,516 29
Nevada 530 2,240 2,770 2,790,136 19
New Hampshire 311 1,487 1,798 1,323,459 23
New Jersey 3,096 4,896 7,992 8,899,339 35
New Mexico 712 1,493 2,205 2,085,287 34
New York 9,707 6,808 16,515 19,651,127 49
Noth Carolina 2,248 2,921 5,169 9,848,060 23
North Dakota 154 856 1,010 723,393 21
Ohio 2,650 3,929 6,579 11,570,808 23
Oklahoma 763 1,281 2,044 3,850,568 20
Oregon 1,654 1,284 2,938 3,930,065 42
Pennsylvania 3,653 4,326 7,979 12,773,801 29
Rhode Island 310 1,266 1,576 1,051,511 29
South Carolina 1,066 2,698 3,764 4,774,839 22
South Dakota 111 697 808 844,877 13
Tennessee 1,514 2,206 3,720 6,495,978 23
Texas 8,427 4,374 12,801 26,448,193 32
Utah 827 1,697 2,524 2,900,872 29
Vermont 289 729 1,018 626,630 46
Virginia 2,790 4,221 7,011 8,260,405 34
Washington 3,866 2,314 6,180 6,971,406 55
West Virginia 100 1,037 1,137 1,854,304 5
Wisconsin 1,727 3,361 5,088 5,742,713 30
Wyoming 136 1,003 1,139 582,658 23
Totals 105,042 -
2018-06-08 at 2:03 AM UTCnigger
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2018-06-08 at 2:27 AM UTCWhat he saying is over 2,000 engineers don't know what an obvious controlled demolition job looks like.
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2018-06-08 at 2:47 AM UTCMolten steel still burning weeks later.
Sure.
Nothing usual about that.
Wt7 falling straight down at free fall speed.
Nothing usual about that. -
2018-06-08 at 3:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rock_N_Rollover Molten steel still burning weeks later.
Sure.
Nothing usual about that.
Wt7 falling straight down at free fall speed.
Nothing usual about that.
And jet fuel doesn't even burn near hot enough to melt steel, and yet multiple NYFD reported huge pockets of melted and pooled steel. Ibeams melted into curves without a single crack on the edge. Takes 2000+ degrees to do that. -
2018-06-08 at 3:08 AM UTCThis sums it up pretty well.
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2018-06-08 at 3:19 AM UTC
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2018-06-08 at 3:22 AM UTC
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2018-06-08 at 3:53 AM UTCnigger
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2018-06-08 at 2:36 PM UTCAnyone who doesn't have some doubts about 9 1 1 and believes the government’s version of events is totally brainwashed.
They got you exactly where they want you. -
2018-06-08 at 3:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by apt You ignore most of the content of my posts and respond to the least important aspects, in the process you conflate architects with architectural engineers (they're not the same thing), try to focus on an arbitrarily narrow criteria for defining the total number of relevant experts while glossing over the fact that your cited AE 9/11 group is made of people with diverse and often largely irrelevant credentials.
In short, you're an idiot running on motivated reasoning, cherry picked and deliberately misconstrued 'evidence' and confirmation bias, and your low IQ is the main reason you still believe in childish conspiracy theories
Oh trust me, I'm not cherry picking. explain to me how Building 7 can drop with a typical crimp in the middle (as building rigged with thermate often do) and drop very neatly and symetric into it's own footprint.
Why would a building in which a guy who was on the 107 floor, managed to get below floor 71 and stated it was very cool and lights and the A/C was still on, and then made it out to tell his account .. how did that building (1) cave in on itself? there are videos showing the bulk of the center 47 collumns were mostly standing. so this thing collapsed in the outer rings by its' own weight without resistance slowing it down? only the top section of 3 (which the WTC 1 and 2 were built as 3 buildings stacked) had mysteriously taken out the lower two which had redundance structural load strengths which every floor lower to it was thicker and could hold up more weight than the floor above. but every floor built held at least 5 times the weight that existed.
How could it collapse so freely as if someone was removing each floors trusses below? I did study this shit. I understand dynamics in 3D software where you can not move an object with an x,y,z axis point.
the top started to fall sideways, had it fell off the side, I would of said.. OK makes sense. and no one would of question it. Silverstein could of even had both towers completely torn down and no one would of thought the wiser. but they took them down in a silly cartoon like fashion and then went for building 7 on top of it.
there is no logic for the lower floors to have weakened. the top floors heat weakening the floors above, makes some sense (to a degree) but to heat up the 47 box columns every floor below to weaken to the point of collapse make 0 sense.
any form of energy regardless of kinetics, weight drawn or recoil or gravitation pull or any other form of energy would of lost its momentum on the way down. it would seem as if this had perpetual energy forces such as a series of well detonated explosives or as far as I know (as silly as it may sound) some form of energy wave device above.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-06-08 at 5:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL It's funny to see Giuliani pop out of the woodwork as Trump's top lawyer now, since he's the very one who illegally disposed of all the 9/11 evidence with all the military-grade nano-thermate coated all over it and had it shipped overseas and meted down before anyone could even get a look at it.
'nano thermite' isn't a real thing
the military uses thermate, which is thermite with 2% sulfur added to burn faster and hotter.
given that thermite is just aluminium and iron oxide, even if it was used it'd be impossible to detect in the debris of a building that made extensive use of aluminium and iron in its construction.
on top of that, there are much better options for destroying buildings and/or metal frames than thermite. there's a reason it's not used for welding or cutting anymoreThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-06-08 at 5:30 PM UTCnigger
