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2018-05-26 at 4:09 AM UTCFolks, post ur successful recipe!
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2018-05-26 at 9:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by The Self Taught Man Enjoy all your meth traffic Lanny!. All credit for reaction goes to Buffalo Whisperer for his BAKE, then shake method.
This is for GUPS (Ground Up Pills)
What the fuck am I doing?
https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/c...h.mrclean.html
https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/c...ch.pseudo.html
http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/crystal/000468062
The idea behind the reaction is this
Do I need water?
DO NOT USE ANY WATER!!
1 gram of water can use up 10grams of lithium, more lithium = more heat which means more chance of explosion/fire. Keep everything anhydrous as possible.
Don't use Ammonium Nitrate unless you happen to have lots of it laying around!!
Ammonium Sulfate is much cheaper and easier to get in large quantities
[SIZE=20px]SUPPLIES NEEDED[/SIZE]
2oz Ammonium Suflate
2oz Lye
2L Plastic Bottle
1 cup to 1 and a half cup coleman fuel. You can also use isopropyl alcohol, xylene or ethanol.
1 AA Lithium Strip per 2 grams. half strip for one box
THE REACTION
Add all of the above then add 1 AA strip Per 2 Boxes of 2400 mg. or half strip for 1 box..
leave the PSE out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shake her up if its not audibly or visually starting to make gas well.
Leave the lid cracked for a few minutes at a time then shut and shake untill it starts to build press.
Slowly burp. hiss and quickly a few times. keep an eye on it. for when it really starts to go.
Dont shake it at all after the gas starts to go .. nope. your done shaking it for now unless it is having a hard time starting to make the gas. If so shake and pressurise release etc. untill its starting to come to life/ pressurize basically at an ok rate then quit the shaking untill later.
Let it pressurize up and tend to it, let it out slowly now and then too keep it within a workable pressure it will after 25/45 minutes be making the bronze that you want and lots of it.
When3/4 to 7/8 or all of the strip has turned to the red/ lion bronze etc. puddle-
Slowly release the pressure to get the cap off.. dont fuck around and get the funnel on it.
Slowly sprinkle the fine ground gups into and on top of the bronze, dont take all day. but dont just plop the whole powder load right down on top of it either.
The PSE is in. Lid on .Shake quickly for 10 seconds or so and let the precursers settle/ be watching for any Lith. thats down in the granule layer. Circular swing/twist the bottle to get a whilrpool in there to get the lith floating and up out of the granular layer after each shake. Keep the lith out of that bottom.
Shake and vent like before trying to keep at least a little pressure on the thing. Shake vent etc. the bronze will be used up and it will go grey, blue, sometimes almost black- the solvent.
Go nuts and shake the fucker.
After about 15 to 20 minutes let it sit still after you shake it, watching the solvent ,that is now a healthy grey chocolate milk looking sob.Let it sit still for 3 to five minutes watching at the top of the solvent line for the solvent to clear up..
It will clear up from the top down like the vertical hold on a TV. the farther you are along= the faster it will clear up.
When you can watch it.. after a quick shake.. —-> clear up real quick, like under a minute and the grey 'lithium amide' comes to rest on top of the fert/lye layer.. It's done.
Its also done when somertimes the bronze is all used up. All gone from floating on top. The solvent is clear then also right after that happens.
Go ahead and loosen the capso it bleeds the pressure off, and leave it fairly loose for a few minutes to let most of the gas react and get up out through the solvent.
Tighten the cap.
Two enhancements only in a not craZY humid environment.. and with a real free flowing small paper towel plug in the neck or a cotton ball or two tip the bottle slowly trying to keep the media in the bottom of the bottle get the fluid/solvent to go down and with the bottle tilted get the solvent line above the whole cap.
Carefully loosen the cap and feed the solvent out and around the cap while its tilted swiftly down through the funnel.
This is a quick as possible rough enhancement, we want this done this is a dangerous step if there is any bronze floating in that pool of solvent in the funnel. Get it done quickly and pick your enviro wisely for this step, dont pull this on top of the washing machine with a can of camp fuel rubbing elbows with you or jars of solvent etc near any of this.
Reasoning here.. if its extremely humid the floating bronze can get itchy and real pissed off firefly style when the solvent has run all through the funnel and its sitting there in the real h20 laden air.
When the solvent has run through quickly twist up the 2 enhancements and wring them out very quickly over the funnel- just squeeze the fucker once and thats it, if there is bronze in them you will hear them hiss and groan. Drop the two enhancements into the reaction vessel then immediately. And cap it.
Pull the cotton balls or plug from the neck and do the same.
Get the RVessel the fuck outside or to a fire safe place. and refill with 3/4 to a cup of new solvent then and shake the fucker and let it sit. In a safe Place!!!
Now Get yourself another vessel like the one you have your solvent in now and make sure its clean dry and at least luke warm or room temp.
Pour the solvent from one vessel to the other 5 to 10 times.
Check the smell of the solvent.
The AA is completely gone yea?
Yep…all gone.
Clean the empty vessel thoroughly and dry and room temp or lukw warm it.
Clean and dry the funnel well inside and out and fit it with one or two tightly packed cotton balls or a nice decent paper towel plug or both a plug and a cotton ball or two half ass tight on top of it and place two enhancements on top of these.
Pre wet /pour a small amount of the same solvent you used / new stuff this time.. through the funnel and adjust the plug for a decent/ good filtration.
Finish enhancement the solvent now.
When its all enhancemented shove the enhancements and the plugs,cttnballs into the Reaction Vessel and recap immediately after its done enhancementing. This cuts the stinky factor down of the solvent in your enviro.. and keeps a handle on it.
Gas the solvent.
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Put the gupps in after the bronze, this allows less precursers for the rxn, which means better yeild, less shit in there to trap the freebase Ma for it to cling get all mixed and mingled into.
The rxn between the Amm Nitrate and Sodium Hydroxide runs alot better when the guppy pill mass isnt getting into the way in between the two.
You get by with less Lithium to make the bronze because you arent shaking it and ramming it into the fert lye layer using up the bronze dicking around trying to make the gas to make the bronze etc. etc. You make the bronze with minimal Nh3 precursers and dont shake/waste any bronze.
Any adulterant in the pill mass to counter act the rxn and or cripple the rxn betwen the two to get to or severely slow down the bronze endpoint is driven around.
The Bronze is already made before the P. Mass gets in there. Giving them a big fuck you.
The finished product won't be crystal but it should look something like this
Post last edited by SCronaldo_J_Trump at 2016-12-07T04:31:57.965666+00:00 -
2018-10-31 at 3:36 AM UTCGreat new look
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2018-10-31 at 4:09 AM UTCBronze is the way to GO
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2018-10-31 at 6:28 AM UTCDumb fucking niggers learn how to do it right, the modified birch reduction, what you faggots call SNB, can only make 30% pure meth AT BEST. Have fun smoking/shooting unreduced PSE, idiots.
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2018-10-31 at 7:35 AM UTCnot if you clean the pills and dry your ammonia
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2018-10-31 at 9:24 AM UTCSince this thread is sitting here, and I'm bored and a tad intrigued by the currently bubbling discussion, I'm going to pose a hypothetical.
Let's say you lived somewhere where even the precursors to the precursors were impossible to obtain, could you still produce anything resembling pure product if you synthesized the precursors, and their precursors before them, and their precursors before them?
Legit theoretical discussion because I'm by no means a chemist, academic, illicit, clandestine, or otherwise.
But I was kinda reminiscing on the idea of "first principles." Every chemical is ultimately synthesized from some other chemical.
So for example, couldn't you obtain, say, benzene and chloroacetone in reasonable quantities, and then synthesize your own methylamine to prep for a reductive amination?
Again, I am by no means a chemist or claiming to know a damn thing here, so if anyone's just going to point out flaws in my chemical reasoning, congratulations, you're making funny faces at the chimpanzee in the zoo.
But hypothetically speaking, why don't chemists avoid scheduled precursors altogether? What the rate (or cost, or time) limited step in synthesizing end product from first principles? -
2018-10-31 at 9:33 AM UTCPeople have been doing that already for years. For the Al/hg reduction making your own mercury salts is a lot easier (and way more toxic) than buying it.
Enough research has been put into the subject of home made precursors that it can be done at an affordable scale.
The only things you ever really need to purchase are solvents and starting materials or the odd building block compound like 2-amino-2'-chloro-5-nitrobenzophenone which can still be made somewhat easily.