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How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 7:34 PM UTC
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2018-03-08 at 7:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Xlite But are those people wrong though?
I didn't read the science about the plants, but i've done my research on mycelium and mycelia in fungi are capable of collecting intelligence and transmitting it to their corresponding plants and neighbors — whatever they’re connected to, really. This intelligence includes information about how to survive and fight disease, warnings about nearby dangers, and guidance in raising a host plant’s defenses. Mycelium also act as a kind of “mother” that allows the transfer of nutrients among interconnected plants.
With this in mind, i'm inclined to believe obbe is telling the truth, or refering to the truth anyway.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-03-08 at 9:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws Look it here I can cite stuff too:
“The definition of intelligence is controversial.[6]”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence#Definitions
[6] S. Legg; M. Hutter. "A Collection of Definitions of Intelligence". 157: 17–24. https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1565458
If there is no agreed upon definition for intelligence, why do you say plants cannot be intelligent? -
2018-03-08 at 9:14 PM UTC
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2018-03-08 at 9:15 PM UTC
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2018-03-09 at 2 PM UTCWhat does it even mean to say that a mallow can learn and remember the location of the sunrise? The idea that plants can behave intelligently, let alone learn or form memories, was a fringe notion until quite recently. Memories are thought to be so fundamentally cognitive that some theorists argue that they’re a necessary and sufficient marker of whether an organism can do the most basic kinds of thinking. Surely memory requires a brain, and plants lack even the rudimentary nervous systems of bugs and worms.
However, over the past decade or so this view has been forcefully challenged. The mallow isn’t an anomaly. Plants are not simply organic, passive automata. We now know that they can sense and integrate information about dozens of different environmental variables, and that they use this knowledge to guide flexible, adaptive behaviour.
Plants also communicate with one another and other organisms, such as parasites and microbes, using a variety of channels– including ‘mycorrhizal networks’ of fungus that link up the root systems of multiple plants, like some kind of subterranean internet. Perhaps it’s not really so surprising, then, that plants learn and use memories for prediction and decision-making.
https://aeon.co/essays/beyond-the-animal-brain-plants-have-cognitive-capacities-too -
2018-03-09 at 2:32 PM UTC
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2018-03-09 at 4:24 PM UTCPlease kill the thread. Fact is, if they don't want to talk to the tree out back, that's ok ya know? It's like high school. Some people just don't talk to other people you know
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2018-03-09 at 4:34 PM UTC
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2018-03-09 at 4:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Slaynk Please kill the thread. Fact is, if they don't want to talk to the tree out back, that's ok ya know? It's like high school. Some people just don't talk to other people you know
If some people don't want to hear about X we shouldn't talk about X? I don't agree with that. Especially on a "free speech" forum. -
2018-03-09 at 4:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind My sources did not claim plants are intelligent "in the context of people".
Omfg are you really this dumb.
First you said
Originally posted by Open Your Mind If you believe other people and animals possess "intelligence and experience", why not plants?
Then I said
Originally posted by Fox Paws Because the way I define intelligence and experience in the context of people and animals does not apply to plants, even considering the cited findings in this thread.
I was just answering your question you dumb fuck.
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2018-03-09 at 4:42 PM UTC
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2018-03-09 at 4:45 PM UTCI can't even make a thread about something I think is interesting without you faggots shit posting all over it. What's even the point? Fuck you all.
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2018-03-09 at 4:48 PM UTC
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2018-03-09 at 4:52 PM UTCKill thread
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2018-03-09 at 4:53 PM UTCFor someone who claims to have an “open mind”, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you change your views about anything. I can’t think of one instance where you said some shit on this forum, someone debated you about it, and you ended up saying “you know what, you might be right, I never thought of it like that.”
For example there is nothing I can say that will convince you that plants are not intelligent. Sure we can go back and forth, like we’ve already started to, but it will eventually devolve into an endless semantic debate. The rainbow thread is another example.
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2018-03-09 at 4:55 PM UTCThe data is inconclusive
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2018-03-09 at 5:04 PM UTC
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