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The hard problem of consciousness

  1. #1
    Why don't our bodies go around doing everything we do and we just experience nothing?
  2. #2
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    With math problems, you can do a back check and make sure it's the correct answer, but as for consciousness, there is no such back check available. When your eye reports to your brain, there's no way for your brain to verify if the information it is receiving is correct; it has to rely on what it's being fed. When your hand touches something and feels it, there's no way for your brain to verify what is really being touched, other than what the nerves in the hand are reporting. The brain can only assume that its interpretation of the data is correct because the reporting elements say it is so. That is an internal system of science, not an external one.
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    With math problems, you can do a back check and make sure it's the correct answer, but as for consciousness, there is no such back check available. When your eye reports to your brain, there's no way for your brain to verify if the information it is receiving is correct; it has to rely on what it's being fed. When your hand touches something and feels it, there's no way for your brain to verify what is really being touched, other than what the nerves in the hand are reporting. The brain can only assume that its interpretation of the data is correct because the reporting elements say it is so. That is an internal system of science, not an external one.


    and bananas are yellow, except for when they're green or brown of course
  4. #4
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    What I am saying is, "you" could actually not even exist at all, and "you" could really be nowhere. All you really are is a ragtag collection of second-hand reported data. You "exist" only because your senses tell you you do, which is entirely independent and irrelevant of what may or may not be actually out there..
  5. #5
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Why don't our bodies go around doing everything we do and we just experience nothing?

    Your body does just go around doing everything it does, your consciousness of the experience it is just a highly evolved reaction to it.
  6. #6
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    The real problem with consciousness is how anyone could think Kierkegaard is hotter than Wittgenstein.

    P.S. philosophical zombies are fucking stupid.
  7. #7
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    How do we define consciousness? Does consciousness of ones actions have an effect on ones actions?
  8. #8
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    That depends on what the meaning of is is
  9. #9
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    What?
  10. #10
    Zanick motherfucker [my p.a. supernal goa]
    The real problem with consciousness is how anyone could think Kierkegaard is hotter than Wittgenstein.

    P.S. philosophical zombies are fucking stupid.

    Whoa, maybe you find the ruggedness of Wittgenstein appealing but I think he just didn't take good care of himself. Kierkegaard has that pretty-boy thing, it reminds me of Jeff Buckley who was coincidentally also murdered by Zionism
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