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We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-02-22 at 9:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by RestStop In the bible God required people to slaughter lambs. Are you saying God is morally incorrect? InB4Athiests.
Originally posted by Lanny …(snipped all these other wrong things out to make my post shorter)
Yeah but the human creature is designed to eat meat and plants. And a basic part of the human creature is making and using advanced tools ie hammers, axes, jackhammers, or even phones and cars etc
So it's true that voluntary vegetarianism isn't really something we find in nature very often. Neither is your car or your phone, your clothes or your ability to read, or most of your diet. The fact that something isn't natural is stupid and hypocritical of anything using a computer to communicate with people.
On the topic of being unhealthy and silly, you're just wrong there.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-02-22 at 9:16 AM UTCthere will be no atheists in the year 2070
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2018-02-22 at 10:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick The point remains: if you can justify our eating of animals because we have evolved to dominate them, then you shouldn't have a problem with members of other groups who believe they are entitled to dominate you by virtue of their physical superiority.
Well honestly I was just trying not to make the argument that I consider muds inferior and therefore no, it's true animals can fuck up humans but that doesn't change the fact that humans are the apex.
Also if you look at mainly vegetarian groups/countries you would see that it's not good for bodily growth, asian countries today are still considered generally smaller and that's solely based on nutrition, we are not herbivores, we're omnivores, we need both to be healthy.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-02-22 at 10:32 AM UTCI WOULD EAT A HUMAN FEMALE
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2018-02-22 at 11:37 AM UTCWe are designed by nature to eat meat. Morals are not designed by nature.
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2018-02-22 at 11:38 AM UTCYOU PUT A HUMAN FEMALE LEG IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, I'D FUCKING EAT IT
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2018-02-22 at 12:30 PM UTC
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2018-02-22 at 12:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by 哈哈你看不懂中文 Serious question, how do you guys feel about the morality of eating something like this:
The Ameglian Major Cow is basically making fun of the British cuckold - the sort of mild mannered herb that goes to war for the rich, raises his wife's sons, and supports other cultures and races over his own. I don't want cuckold flesh in my mouth or in my body. -
2018-02-22 at 2:20 PM UTCIf we were naturally designed to eat meat, why do we get sick if we don't cook it?
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2018-02-22 at 2:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny You don't seem particularly bothered by being told about a possible moral obligation you have because you don't think you actually have it.
I think like a lot of people I have grown tired of Zanick's post-Christian moral framework which assigns us endless obligations but no rights.
Just like the Subgenius advertisement points out, we get all of the guilt, but none of the sex.Why on earth are the only things "with a place" the things which have advantages to individuals? You can't even try some kind of naturalistic argument because that's not even what we see in nature.
Being a sucker has no place in nature. What we have in this thread is the wolf being lectured on morality by the sheep. -
2018-02-22 at 4:08 PM UTCi would like to just point out that even pure carnivores like cats and doggs sometimes eat plants, for unknown reason.
we shouldnt be so exclusive with our diets.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-02-22 at 4:15 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-02-22 at 5:36 PM UTCIs nobody going to address the video I posted?
Let me rephrase it: Would eating meat be ethical if there were a sentient being that WANTED to be eaten and was fully capable of telling you so? In this instance, nothing would suffer, even though they are genetically engineered to be this way. Nothing that doesn't want to die or be eaten would die or be eaten. -
2018-02-22 at 5:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by 哈哈你看不懂中文 Is nobody going to address the video I posted?
Let me rephrase it: Would eating meat be ethical if there were a sentient being that WANTED to be eaten and was fully capable of telling you so? In this instance, nothing would suffer, even though they are genetically engineered to be this way. Nothing that doesn't want to die or be eaten would die or be eaten.
i still couldn't eat it. i know deep down it's been bred and brainwashed to want to be eaten. so i'd still feel guilty as fuck eating it.
my comparison is dogs. dogs are "bred" to be subservient to humans, but i still don't play that game. dogs should NOT be subservient to us, it's fucked. -
2018-02-22 at 5:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by 哈哈你看不懂中文 Is nobody going to address the video I posted?
Let me rephrase it: Would eating meat be ethical if there were a sentient being that WANTED to be eaten and was fully capable of telling you so? In this instance, nothing would suffer, even though they are genetically engineered to be this way. Nothing that doesn't want to die or be eaten would die or be eaten.
What about his stomach parasites and the bacteria in his shit-funnel? They would die as a result of his choice, therefore it is not ethical. -
2018-02-22 at 6:05 PM UTC
Originally posted by Enter i still couldn't eat it. i know deep down it's been bred and brainwashed to want to be eaten. so i'd still feel guilty as fuck eating it.
my comparison is dogs. dogs are "bred" to be subservient to humans, but i still don't play that game. dogs should NOT be subservient to us, it's fucked.
It isn't brainwashed, that's how it actually feels. From birth. Some animals want to live, this one wants to die. Why does it being bred matter, and why would you feel guilty? Nothing is suffering.
Dogs were not bred to be subservient to humans. Contrary to popular belief, there isn't really an 'beta dog' in the pack. No such thing as a pack leader. Their hierarchy is pretty fluid. Some people never take that step and so their dog tries to dominate them. Ever seen a little puff mutt attack a full grown man? -
2018-02-22 at 6:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by 哈哈你看不懂中文 It isn't brainwashed, that's how it actually feels. From birth. Some animals want to live, this one wants to die. Why does it being bred matter, and why would you feel guilty? Nothing is suffering.
Dogs were not bred to be subservient to humans. Contrary to popular belief, there isn't really an 'beta dog' in the pack. No such thing as a pack leader. Their hierarchy is pretty fluid. Some people never take that step and so their dog tries to dominate them. Ever seen a little puff mutt attack a full grown man?
if it genuinely wasn't brainwashed, and was programmed genetically to want to die from birth, then yeah i'd eat it -
2018-02-22 at 6:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by 哈哈你看不懂中文 Is nobody going to address the video I posted?
Let me rephrase it: Would eating meat be ethical if there were a sentient being that WANTED to be eaten and was fully capable of telling you so? In this instance, nothing would suffer, even though they are genetically engineered to be this way. Nothing that doesn't want to die or be eaten would die or be eaten.
thats just like asking if picasso is the greatest paintist.
ethics are just that.
if you ask me i would say i'd prefer not to eat meat not out of wthical concerns but of the shit chemicals they inject into every meat animals.
and on the other hand .... just becos your a vegetarian doesnt make you one or some of the most ethical person here, there or anywhere.
industrial farming, like industrial meat making, arent always as ethical as one might think. most businesses are not. one good example on top of my head right now is PALM OIL.
the growing and production of palm oils is one of the most destructive industrial agricultural practices we have to day. it is destructive not only to the land and to the wildlives whose lands their evicted from ....
but also to the natives, indigenous humans that once lived on land that is now part of the palm oil industrial complex.
so no, ethical concerns wont go away magically if everyone suddenly turn soyperson overnight.
it will linger on.
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2018-02-22 at 6:20 PM UTC
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2018-02-22 at 6:41 PM UTC
