Are mental disorders real?

1. 2018-02-14 at 4:10 PM UTC

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   Zanick motherfucker [my p.a. supernal goa]
   Do you think that mental disorders fit into neat categories that are diagnostically useful? Or do you think the whole tradition of diagnosing mental illness is crap?
   
   Somewhere in between? Please share.
2. 2018-02-14 at 4:13 PM UTC

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   RestStop Space Nigga
   It's quite possible that a lot of people share idiosyncrasies that are deemed "wrong" or "not right". For example I'm left handed. 70 years ago people would tell you I was possessed by the devil or some shit but I assure you I'm not and it just happens to be my dominant hand.
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3. 2018-02-14 at 5:28 PM UTC

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   -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
   The key is that mental disorders exist, but they are not diseases or illnesses. BigPharma treats them like diseases and illnesses just so they can fill their offshore bank accounts to the brim. Mental disorders are brought on by the subject himself, through a vast host of mediums, such as sloth, self-centeredness, greed, senselessness, unreasonableness, envy, ego, and up to hundreds of other self-inflicted attacks.
4. 2018-02-14 at 5:49 PM UTC

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   stupid noob VICTIM of farm equipment [the momentously grade-constructed phasmatodea]

   Originally posted by -SpectraL The key is that mental disorders exist, but they are not diseases or illnesses. BigPharma treats them like diseases and illnesses just so they can fill their offshore bank accounts to the brim. Mental disorders are brought on by the subject himself, through a vast host of mediums, such as sloth, self-centeredness, greed, senselessness, unreasonableness, envy, ego, and up to hundreds of other self-inflicted attacks.

   
   Ok Grandpa Flip Flop, you go burn your sage in the other room there. You're getting as bad as GrayFox there old man.
5. 2018-02-14 at 5:51 PM UTC

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   stupid noob VICTIM of farm equipment [the momentously grade-constructed phasmatodea]

   Originally posted by RestStop It's quite possible that a lot of people share idiosyncrasies that are deemed "wrong" or "not right". For example I'm left handed. 70 years ago people would tell you I was possessed by the devil or some shit but I assure you I'm not and it just happens to be my dominant hand.

   
   I'm not falling for that. Nice try Satan.
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6. 2018-02-14 at 5:57 PM UTC

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   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   God you're the most annoying poster stupid noob. I wish you were still in jail.
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7. 2018-02-14 at 6:03 PM UTC

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   -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]

   Originally posted by stupid noob Ok Grandpa Flip Flop, you go burn your sage in the other room there. You're getting as bad as GrayFox there old man.

   
   That didn't frighten me in the least, son.
8. 2018-02-14 at 6:05 PM UTC

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   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   No, they are all fake as fuck, except for PTSD because I have it.
9. 2018-02-14 at 7 PM UTC

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   mashlehash victim of incest [my perspicuously dependant flavourlessness]
   Yes, I have them.
10. 2018-02-14 at 9:55 PM UTC

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    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Yes, they're real, just like rainbows
11. 2018-02-14 at 10:03 PM UTC

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    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    if you dont know how our minds work ....
    
    then you cant know if its not working correctly.
12. 2018-02-14 at 10:13 PM UTC

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    Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
    It depends what we mean by mental disorder.
    
    A mental disorder can possess a functional person who psychologically suffers in his or her day to day life while still remaining functional (in appearance) to others.
    
    A mental disorder can also refer to an individual whose psychological contents affect their outward behaviour and makes them appear dysfunctional to the average person in a society.
    
    It is important to note that the term "mental disorder" is actually a neutral description of psychological phenomena. It does not mean, for example, that the individual is mentally or behaviourally inferior to the average person. We can observe tens of thousands of people, in history and in our personal lives, who suffer from "mental disorder" and yet fulfill their fitness criteria, e.g. acquiring resources, innovating new technologies or ideologies, creating art and literature and reproducing offspring.
    
    If we take an autistically literal approach to the term "mental disorder", we can see that it refers to one's cognitive functioning not operating in an orderly fashion.
    
    Cognitive functioning operating in an orderly fashion = Mathematicians, CEOs of multinational corporations, STEM field people, military generals etc.
    Cognitive functioning operating in a disorderly fashion = artists, entertainers, entrepreneurs, revolutionaries, "creative" people.
    
    A mental disorder, whether diagnosed or undiagnosed, cannot and should not be used as an umbrella term for "dysfunctional" members in a community. I do not even have to tell you about the amount of "functional" members of society who are absolute scum by every metric of calculation.
    
    Although a negative term by psychiatric criteria, it is a philosophically neutral term.
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13. 2018-02-14 at 10:20 PM UTC

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    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    if one acts inhumanely ... is that person cognitively dysfunction ???
14. 2018-02-14 at 10:24 PM UTC

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    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by Daily It depends what we mean by mental disorder.
    
    A mental disorder can possess a functional person who psychologically suffers in his or her day to day life while still remaining functional (in appearance) to others.
    
    A mental disorder can also refer to an individual whose psychological contents affect their outward behaviour and makes them appear dysfunctional to the average person in a society.
    
    It is important to note that the term "mental disorder" is actually a neutral description of psychological phenomena. It does not mean, for example, that the individual is mentally or behaviourally inferior to the average person. We can observe tens of thousands of people, in history and in our personal lives, who suffer from "mental disorder" and yet fulfill their fitness criteria, e.g. acquiring resources, innovating new technologies or ideologies, creating art and literature and reproducing offspring.
    
    If we take an autistically literal approach to the term "mental disorder", we can see that it refers to one's cognitive functioning not operating in an orderly fashion.
    
    Cognitive functioning operating in an orderly fashion = Mathematicians, CEOs of multinational corporations, STEM field people, military generals etc.
    Cognitive functioning operating in a disorderly fashion = artists, entertainers, entrepreneurs, revolutionaries, "creative" people.
    
    A mental disorder, whether diagnosed or undiagnosed, cannot and should not be used as an umbrella term for "dysfunctional" members in a community. I do not even have to tell you about the amount of "functional" members of society who are absolute scum by every metric of calculation.
    
    Although a negative term by psychiatric criteria, it is a philosophically neutral term.

    
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15. 2018-02-14 at 10:26 PM UTC

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    Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
    That's ok xx
16. 2018-02-14 at 10:26 PM UTC

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    Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]

    Originally posted by benny vader if one acts inhumanely … is that person cognitively dysfunction ???

    
    No. "Inhumane" is - and may allah forgive me for using this term - a social construct
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17. 2018-02-14 at 10:33 PM UTC

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    benny vader YELLOW GHOST

    Originally posted by Daily No. "Inhumane" is - and may allah forgive me for using this term - a social construct

    
    i c.
    
    so are no, is, and, may, allah, forgive, me and you, for, using, this, term, social, construct.
    
    all the above mentioned words are also social constructs. mental disorders, both the word and the condition, are also social constructs.
18. 2018-02-14 at 10:37 PM UTC

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    Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
    deep
19. 2018-02-17 at 9:50 AM UTC

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    F0N Yung Blood

    Originally posted by Zanick Do you think that mental disorders fit into neat categories that are diagnostically useful? Or do you think the whole tradition of diagnosing mental illness is crap?
    
    Somewhere in between? Please share.

    
    In between. The way we understand mental illnesses - like the notion of madness - has historically varied. That said, given the current state of psychology and our contemporary understandings and corresponding categories for what is considered mental illness then it's certainly useful for diagnosis. But, to some extent, it remains historically contingent, with some issues more open to scrutiny and critique than others. ADHD, for instance, albeit something I haven't read much literature on, seems to be in a state of flux with regard to diagnosis and delineating the nature of the perceived defect.
20. 2018-02-17 at 10:28 AM UTC

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    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    This thread and the replies in it are proof that mental disorders are real.
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