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Starting a new forums (lanny et al)
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2016-01-24 at 3:28 PM UTCSo I've been piecing together making a new forum.
Here are my questions:
How much does it cost? Do I just buy a copy of Vbulletin and run it out of my house (I have a server)? Can I buy server space somewhere else?
How much technical knowledge do I need?
Does anyone want to help me with gay porn and stuff?
What's the legal liability?
Lanny,
How long did it take you to set up NiggasinSpace? -
2016-01-24 at 3:31 PM UTCWhat kind of forum?
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2016-01-24 at 3:35 PM UTC
What kind of forum?
It wouldn't be totse or pretend to be.
Basically it would be academics to discuss shit. I'm considering needing a .edu email to register or something (exceptions will be made).
So a lot of the topics will be highly technical academic stuff but the rest of it will be niggas talkin' shit.
Also there will be a library. -
2016-01-24 at 3:39 PM UTC
It wouldn't be totse or pretend to be.
Basically it would be academics to discuss shit. I'm considering needing a .edu email to register or something (exceptions will be made).
So a lot of the topics will be highly technical academic stuff but the rest of it will be niggas talkin' shit.
Also there will be a library.
Sounds like totse.
How much does it cost? Do I just buy a copy of Vbulletin and run it out of my house (I have a server)? Can I buy server space somewhere else? Vbulletin has a price page. There are free, pretty good alternatives. Hosting could run you from 2-10$ a month, a domain is about 12$/year.
How much technical knowledge do I need? Very little. It's pretty much point and click. Even easier if you get a paid product - you also get support that way. The more you know though, the better you can make it (faster, safer, etc).
What's the legal liability? Dunno, I'd be interested in hearing about this as well. I would assume any content you host will be susceptible to DMCA requests. You can have a clause stating the all posts belong to their owners, which I think remove some responsibility off your shoulders, but only to some extent (ie. if members post about crimes, maybe you can be charged as an accomplice if you know about this but dont report it). Anyone here got more info on this? -
2016-01-24 at 3:45 PM UTCI have no answers to the questions you have asked but it sounds pretty cool. Don't over-moderate it. I can understand that you want to try some shit with quality content on your own but it will be hard to attract a userbase if you don't attach the totse name to it. I guess. I have no idea. Don't get PTSD from getting ddoxxed, bro. I'll join if it looks cool.
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2016-01-24 at 3:51 PM UTC
Sounds like totse.
How much does it cost? Do I just buy a copy of Vbulletin and run it out of my house (I have a server)? Can I buy server space somewhere else? Vbulletin has a price page. There are free, pretty good alternatives. Hosting could run you from 2-10$ a month, a domain is about 12$/year.
How much technical knowledge do I need? Very little. It's pretty much point and click. Even easier if you get a paid product - you also get support that way. The more you know though, the better you can make it (faster, safer, etc).
What's the legal liability? Dunno, I'd be interested in hearing about this as well. I would assume any content you host will be susceptible to DMCA requests. You can have a clause stating the all posts belong to their owners, which I think remove some responsibility off your shoulders, but only to some extent (ie. if members post about crimes, maybe you can be charged as an accomplice if you know about this but dont report it). Anyone here got more info on this?
Thanks for this.
It's not like &totse so much in that &T's point was freedom and it honestly wasn't very well vetted circa 2005.
The goal of this forum wouldn't be freedom, it would just be a place for academics to hang out and discuss things that interest them. It would basically attempt to be like an online discussion forum that's required for school, except you're basically anonymous, you can have sexy bitches as your avatar, you can swear, and the only people that are there are those who are interested in the forum.
I was also thinking about setting up some war games on it. I mean, we could technically do the war games here, too. We could also have reading groups.
I wouldn't want it affiliated with totse though. Some of you guys could come over, but honestly most of hte people affiliated with Totse still talking about it aren't who you want on a forum. -
2016-01-24 at 4:40 PM UTC
It wouldn't be totse or pretend to be.
Basically it would be academics to discuss shit. I'm considering needing a .edu email to register or something (exceptions will be made).
So a lot of the topics will be highly technical academic stuff but the rest of it will be niggas talkin' shit.
Also there will be a library.
Sounds good. Sounds like the best parts of totse.
As for liability, you don't need to specify all posts belong to their owners. That's pretty much the sole purpose of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectio...ns_Decency_Act
Just make sure you're operating within the bounds of Section 230 and you're pretty much free of any/all liability.
NOTE: I am not a lawyer. -
2016-01-24 at 4:52 PM UTCHost the site on Nigerian servers.
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2016-01-24 at 4:57 PM UTCThis seems like a good idea, however, getting a userbase of knowledgable members would be problematic i'd reckon.
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2016-01-24 at 5 PM UTCThe best way to market something nowadays is social media. Especially Youtube. Just spam the link under tutorials, TED talks and shit like that.
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2016-01-24 at 5:01 PM UTC
This seems like a good idea, however, getting a userbase of knowledgable members would be problematic i'd reckon.
I think this would actually be the easiest part because there are so many of us niggas going to school in the USA for things we're genuinely interested in but there's no outlet for it in the real world.
I mean Phoenix could probably hold his own to most people with a philosophy degree and he's basically a sharpie plugging autodidact.
I think the hard thing would be advertising it, but it would probably find it's own within a year or so because it's pretty niche imo. -
2016-01-24 at 5:07 PM UTC
I mean Phoenix could probably hold his own to most people with a philosophy degree and he's basically a sharpie plugging autodidact.
If you'd used the feminine pronoun this could have been the greatest compliment I've ever received. Actually... it still is. ♥
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2016-01-24 at 5:09 PM UTC
If you'd used the feminine pronoun this could have been the greatest compliment I've ever received. Actually… it still is. ♥
It's not a compliment. I don't say things I don't mean.
That would be the point of the forum. If we could unite otherwise isolated, thoughtful people we could have a cool community.
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2016-01-24 at 5:22 PM UTC
I think this would actually be the easiest part because there are so many of us niggas going to school in the USA for things we're genuinely interested in but there's no outlet for it in the real world.
I hope so.
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2016-01-24 at 5:28 PM UTC
I hope so.
Yeah me too this $60+k in debt better be worth something.
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2016-01-24 at 5:29 PM UTCAny recommendations on software? Yay or Nay on Vbulletin?
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2016-01-24 at 5:33 PM UTC
Any recommendations on software? Yay or Nay on Vbulletin?
vBul is nice, make sure you patch if you get vBul 5 it has an SQLi and XSS vulnerability out of the box if i recall. Also, MyBB is bretty good except from an anonimity standpoint, because it keeps logs of everything including PMs, which can be accessed by admins with two clicks of a button. Phpbb sucks and uhm, idk. -
2016-01-24 at 5:36 PM UTC
vBul is nice, make sure you patch if you get vBul 5 it has an SQLi and XSS vulnerability out of the box if i recall. Also, MyBB is bretty good except from an anonimity standpoint, because it keeps logs of everything including PMs, which can be accessed by admins with two clicks of a button. Phpbb sucks and uhm, idk.
Why does phpbb suck? I remember it was the go-to solution... in 2006. What about non-php forums? I knows there's Discourse with a great look n feel. -
2016-01-24 at 5:37 PM UTC
vBul is nice, make sure you patch if you get vBul 5 it has an SQLi and XSS vulnerability out of the box if i recall. Also, MyBB is bretty good except from an anonimity standpoint, because it keeps logs of everything including PMs, which can be accessed by admins with two clicks of a button. Phpbb sucks and uhm, idk.
That's kinda not cool.
I really would rather not be able to see everyone's PMs to be honest because it creates a degree of liability. If one of you fuckheads does something illegal that you planned through PM, it would be a whole lot cooler if "there's no way I could have known that.' -
2016-01-24 at 5:40 PM UTC
Why does phpbb suck? I remember it was the go-to solution… in 2006. What about non-php forums? I knows there's Discourse with a great look n feel.
PhpBB sucks because it's rather insecure, now, as is the case with SMF you can tighten security if you know what's up but for convenience i'd suggest forum software that comes reasonably secure out of the box.
Also, isn't discourse like full blown Web 2.0 shit, with a ton os JS and Java and such, if it has Java it should be killed with fire.
