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Lmfao, the US is going to be a political fuckfest for the next 5 years minimum.
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2016-04-18 at 12:32 AM UTCWe'll have Shillary "Fake As Fuck" Cucked-inton who couldn't even control her husband's dong and has zero qualification or experience that doesn't stem from banging a great president, facing off against McDonald jedi-lite Trump, a mildly retarded Republicoon who would sell America to the gooks for a quick buck. Or even worse, Commie Sanders wins the Dem nomination and he sacrifices us on the altar of Marx.
This choice will be even worse than George W Kush vs John "Shit alternative" Kerry. We are fucked. -
2016-04-18 at 12:48 AM UTCgood.
I'd say hillary is probably the worst of the bunch though
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2016-04-18 at 12:53 AM UTCAmerica chose to be like this. If you wanted to save the world and spent all your billions trying to buy your way into politics, do you think you would get enough votes to make a difference? America is too divided. So which country are you going to move to once America falls?
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2016-04-18 at 12:56 AM UTCI don't live in america, but it's kind of irrelevant because once their economy implodes it's going to pull most of the rest of the world under with it
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2016-04-18 at 1:07 AM UTCHilary will win and she represents the status quo. Things will remain largely unchanged for the next 4 years, military spending will remain high, our wellfare system will remain patchwork but slowly expand, the economy will continue to experience low-moderate growth and everyone will hate it but largely be in the best position they could expect to be given the circumstances.
You sky is falling niggers need to learn the reality of the american political system: there are no extreme positions represented. Even if Trump did win (he won't) he'd still be impotent to do any of the bullshit he's build his campaign on. We all know he won't get Mexico to pay for shit and congress won't touch that shit sack with a 10 foot poll, he will have power of foreign policy but the world already has about as low an opinion of us as it can given our economic/military position so there's not much he'd be able to do. I guess he could start us up a new war but who really gives a shit anyway? -
2016-04-18 at 1:26 AM UTCconsidering how hard hillary's backed the last few 'wars' (I use the term war loosely considering raining multimillion dollar munitions onto countries without a functioning air force seems more like kicking a puppy to me), the US is probably more likely to cause more international havoc under her than trump.
you're right, hillary supports the status quo, but it's the same status quo that leveled iraq, libya and syria while your own public infrastructure falls apart.
and, it wouldn't be incorrect to say the sky is falling in terms of US dominance and the current economic system; such outliers being present in the election are more a symptom of that than the end result -
2016-04-18 at 1:32 AM UTCYour government has been hijacked by an oligarchy of crony capitalists. Another bloody civil war and then a world war is the only eventual result.
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2016-04-18 at 1:46 AM UTCUS dominance? What dominance? Sure we have a big stick but we've been too internally politically fragmented to engage in anything more than sandbox wars since the 90s. We're not about to be replaced in the next few decades, and not by China, but we all know where this train is headed and no candidate represents a departure from that. It's unclear if anything, regardless of political viability, could change that fact.
Sure Hillary has a track record of comparatively aggressive interventionist policy but it's foolish to think Trump is some kind of isolationist because he pays occasional lip service to the american libertarian movement. At least she represents some level of awareness of american political realities, Trump is a cult of personality and god only knows in what byzantine ways that's going to blow up in our collective faces if he makes it into office.
Also "leveled Syria" is kinda disingenuous, we may be pouring gas on the fire but Syria was going to be a shit show with or without our help. -
2016-04-18 at 1:47 AM UTC
Hilary will win and she represents the status quo. Things will remain largely unchanged for the next 4 years, military spending will remain high, our wellfare system will remain patchwork but slowly expand, the economy will continue to experience low-moderate growth and everyone will hate it but largely be in the best position they could expect to be given the circumstances.
You sky is falling niggers need to learn the reality of the american political system: there are no extreme positions represented. Even if Trump did win (he won't) he'd still be impotent to do any of the bullshit he's build his campaign on. We all know he won't get Mexico to pay for shit and congress won't touch that shit sack with a 10 foot poll, he will have power of foreign policy but the world already has about as low an opinion of us as it can given our economic/military position so there's not much he'd be able to do. I guess he could start us up a new war but who really gives a shit anyway?
Largely I'd agree with you, although most POTUS' since WWII have gotten us into a war; Bush/Cheney really furthered executive power in this regard, and although Obama campaigned successfully against this attitude he seems to have enjoyed it well enough since he got in. Of course they like getting stuff done, but it seem as though something always comes up that's absolutely justifiably an excuse to militarize a region, putting hundreds of thousands out of their home and killing many in the process. Foreign policy is where we need to worry, and Hillary didn't have to wait for the office to demonstrate the very presidential quality of rushing soldiers into combat without prior authorization of Congress. -
2016-04-18 at 2:43 AM UTC
US dominance? What dominance? Sure we have a big stick but we've been too internally politically fragmented to engage in anything more than sandbox wars since the 90s. We're not about to be replaced in the next few decades, and not by China, but we all know where this train is headed and no candidate represents a departure from that. It's unclear if anything, regardless of political viability, could change that fact.
I'm not strictly talking about military dominance; in fact I'd consider that secondary. The vast majority of the wars the US has started have been over energy, specifically control of petrol and gas reserves (for recent examples, see Syria and Ukraine) - it's the main way they're able to control the world economy or even be competitive in it. With more and more countries taking steps to move away from trading oil in the USD and dropping it as a reserve currency altogether, along with King Chop-Chop set to run out of oil in 5-10 years, they'll need to make some major changes to stay in that game. They'll likely need to change their patterns from the old Regime Change playbook considering Russia's now shown it won't stand by anymore while the US tampers with it's allies and interests.
In terms of finance, BRICS will likely come to compete with the IMF, making it more difficult for them to control poorer countries through debt.
And in terms of military, purely speculative but I believe the US way overstates their technical advantage over Russia and China. From what I've seen modern hardware seems competitive across the field and yet the US spends around 600bil vs Russia's 50bil annually - I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of that difference is pure exploitation by military contractors.Sure Hillary has a track record of comparatively aggressive interventionist policy but it's foolish to think Trump is some kind of isolationist because he pays occasional lip service to the american libertarian movement. At least she represents some level of awareness of american political realities, Trump is a cult of personality and god only knows in what byzantine ways that's going to blow up in our collective faces if he makes it into office.
I have no doubt trump is a shit who has no idea what he'd be doing, but I'd take that over the exceptionalism and smug superiority hillary brings to the table.Also "leveled Syria" is kinda disingenuous, we may be pouring gas on the fire but Syria was going to be a shit show with or without our help.
IS/IS/DAASH/etc is a direct result of US 'intervention' in Iraq - extremists among extremists; an offshoot of Al-Qaeda that wanted to take it a few steps further who couldn't be brought in line because they were spread too thin. Aside from their rhetoric and penchant for theatrics, they're nothing special though - they, along with the other major militant groups like Al-Nusra and co only got a major foothold in Syria because of the US' policy to invent and arm 'moderate rebels' against the legitimate government. The US had a 'train and arm' program from the beginning, training and arming 'moderate rebels' to fight the Syrian Army. Mid 2015 audits showed that for the millions of dollars they spent (I think it was 5-10 but haven't got an article open) they had trained ~30 militants of whom 25 had been killed or defected and the majority of arms they were given had been sold off or traded to ISIS/AN. So what did they do? Drop the training part of the program and simply airdrop them arms. Without US and general western intervention, there wouldn't have been a civil war - it would've been small pockets of insurgency or terrorism that could've been dealt with a number of ways.
And that's not even mentioning the 2-year bombing campaign that did nothing to stop the groups they were claiming to be fighting, or the UK immediately destroying Syrian infrastructure (power stations and oil drilling equipment) the moment their parliament gave permission for the military to be used against ISIS. -
2016-04-19 at 5:20 AM UTCThe liserd men are coming.
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2016-04-19 at 6:22 AM UTCI sure hope so
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2016-04-19 at 6:33 AM UTC
Hilary will win and she represents the status quo. Things will remain largely unchanged for the next 4 years, military spending will remain high, our wellfare system will remain patchwork but slowly expand, the economy will continue to experience low-moderate growth and everyone will hate it but largely be in the best position they could expect to be given the circumstances.
You sky is falling niggers need to learn the reality of the american political system: there are no extreme positions represented. Even if Trump did win (he won't) he'd still be impotent to do any of the bullshit he's build his campaign on. We all know he won't get Mexico to pay for shit and congress won't touch that shit sack with a 10 foot poll, he will have power of foreign policy but the world already has about as low an opinion of us as it can given our economic/military position so there's not much he'd be able to do. I guess he could start us up a new war but who really gives a shit anyway?
actually she won't win.. either donald trump or ted cruiz will, there is no way america will vote for a woman after 8 years of a nignog. at least I hope not. a woman, a jedi, a canadian... it just wont happen. trump is putting show biz back into the republican party which is what wins votes. -
2016-04-19 at 6:35 AM UTC
actually she won't win.. either donald trump or ted cruiz will
How would you feel making a wager? -
2016-04-19 at 6:42 AM UTCIf Hillary wins it'll fuck up my misogynistic fantasies and empower women. I'm voting Trump, because everyone can go fuck themselves. If politicals were actually rleal I would vote for Bernie Sanders.
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2016-04-19 at 6:43 AM UTCOur choice is between a jedi socialist, a corrupt to the core woman, a first term Canadian senator and, a successful American entrepreneur and buisness man. America is afraid the buisness man will destroy us, the woman will sell us, the Canadian will turn us into a religious state and the jedi will save us with free stuff and socialism.
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2016-04-19 at 6:43 AM UTCI think Bernie would get the nomination over her if the criteria were popularity and the deck weren't stacked so heavily against him, but as it stands it'll probably be Hillary against Trump - I don't think Cruz stands much of a chance.
as for the grand finals, Hillary's again stacked the deck. if it were pure popularity they'd probably be fairly close, but given her 'minority' status and corporate backing, she'll probably sweep it. -
2016-04-19 at 6:54 AM UTCPlot twist: SJW's destroy America and Tumblr becomes a state of extremely butthurt half-manwoman-horse-pegleg creatures that employ draconian law for hurting people's feelings, looking at a woman, or having a penis in a reverse-islam fashion of arrogant and despicable hipster antics.
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2016-04-19 at 7:10 AM UTC
Our choice is between a jedi socialist, a corrupt to the core woman, a first term Canadian senator and, a successful American entrepreneur and buisness man. America is afraid the buisness man will destroy us, the woman will sell us, the Canadian will turn us into a religious state and the jedi will save us with free stuff and socialism.
I love how insular our opinions have become that you think that's a knock down argument against a candidate and I see it as a pair of complements yet we're supposedly talking about the same person.If Hillary wins it'll fuck up my misogynistic fantasies and empower women. I'm voting Trump, because everyone can go fuck themselves. If politicals were actually rleal I would vote for Bernie Sanders.
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2016-04-19 at 7:38 AM UTC
I love how insular our opinions have become that you think that's a knock down argument against a candidate and I see it as a pair of complements yet we're supposedly talking about the same person.
Some see the first jedi president as a good thing. That does not mean he would make a good president. Some see the first jedi president as a bad thing. This does not mean he would make a bad president. Some see socialism as a positive and some as a negative. Of course this is how opinion works.
My real problem is that Bernie spouts the wage gap myth, has a terrible legislative record (something of a 0.00008% rate of passed bills) and is much like rand Paul in that he is the only one willing to do what they do. Paul is just the libertarian extreme and Bernie the socialist. I think our senate benefits from them far more than our executive branch could. Honestly the president is a shit position. Definitely getting annoyed of its veneration when congress and the senate and the supreme court have a much more active role and impact on the average american.
