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2016-10-23 at 1:16 AM UTCDrinking alcohol is fine. It's the addiction to it, as with anything, which demonstrates the weakness.
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2016-10-23 at 2:51 AM UTCGetting addicted to alcohol isn't easy spectral. It's a chemical that your body literally rejects in reasonable quantities before tolerance is established. It's socially unacceptable, the alcoholic must learn to maneuver the myriad human institutions which govern their lives in various states and dispositions of intoxication. You have to learn how to live on a couple of hours of sleep a night, how to mask the signs of hangover, how to conceal one's liquor from audiences who would use such a habit against one. You probably think this is all easy but it's not, it's the fool who underestimates the task, even the most casual suggestion of alcoholism can set off untold horror. It is a grand masquerade, one your brute little mind wouldn't last a minute in, wherein one's whole being is bent against the institution. It is the desire of nearly everyone around you that you participate wholly and honestly in the disgusting trivialities of a life and they will do everything within their power to make you do so, but with the combined power of alcohol and one's cunning you can evade such human mire: smile at them and nod along as you focus to avoid stumbling down the hall. It is by right of intoxication that you may decline to participate in that which is revolting, that one might retain their personhood in the face of dehumanizing institution. When you embrace the ethos of alcoholism you say to the world: "fuck you, I can do you as shitfaced as I like" and in that defiant moment of self sufficiency one (that is, someone better than you, spectral) can conquer the human condition, to engage in all those motions necessary for the security of person without earnest effort, the refusal of the entire human trial. It is as such that man is free, and you weakness in being unable to see that is your slavery.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2016-10-23 at 2:58 AM UTCAnd none of that applies if you're a hermit.
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2016-10-23 at 3:02 AM UTCYou're not free, though. You're nothing but a slave to a vise. As for me, I am totally aware of the corrupt, disgusting, revolting system, and the cretins which live within it, however, I am powerful enough to rise above it, manipulate it toward my own ideals, and maybe even help some along the way. I choose domination of that which seeks to destroy me, whereas you choose to be dominated by it. You talk a smooth game, Lanny, but you're dead wrong, son. The path you are headed down has been travelled by many who came before you, and none truly succeeded in anything but destroying themselves. And when you destroy yourself, the very thing you hate wins.
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2016-10-23 at 3:13 AM UTCSpec is actually a bit right. Some.
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2016-10-23 at 3:24 AM UTC
Getting addicted to alcohol isn't easy spectral. It's a chemical that your body literally rejects in reasonable quantities before tolerance is established. It's socially unacceptable, the alcoholic must learn to maneuver the myriad human institutions which govern their lives in various states and dispositions of intoxication. You have to learn how to live on a couple of hours of sleep a night, how to mask the signs of hangover, how to conceal one's liquor from audiences who would use such a habit against one. You probably think this is all easy but it's not, it's the fool who underestimates the task, even the most casual suggestion of alcoholism can set off untold horror. It is a grand masquerade, one your brute little mind wouldn't last a minute in, wherein one's whole being is bent against the institution. It is the desire of nearly everyone around you that you participate wholly and honestly in the disgusting trivialities of a life and they will do everything within their power to make you do so, but with the combined power of alcohol and one's cunning you can evade such human mire: smile at them and nod along as you focus to avoid stumbling down the hall. It is by right of intoxication that you may decline to participate in that which is revolting, that one might retain their personhood in the face of dehumanizing institution. When you embrace the ethos of alcoholism you say to the world: "fuck you, I can do you as shitfaced as I like" and in that defiant moment of self sufficiency one (that is, someone better than you, spectral) can conquer the human condition, to engage in all those motions necessary for the security of person without earnest effort, the refusal of the entire human trial. It is as such that man is free, and you weakness in being unable to see that is your slavery.
[greentext]>implying you need alcohol to overcome bullshit social rituals[/greentext]
You just need to be rude. Or make the silly social ritual somehow more interesting through your wit. -
2016-10-23 at 3:58 AM UTC
Getting addicted to alcohol isn't easy spectral. It's a chemical that your body literally rejects in reasonable quantities before tolerance is established. It's socially unacceptable, the alcoholic must learn to maneuver the myriad human institutions which govern their lives in various states and dispositions of intoxication. You have to learn how to live on a couple of hours of sleep a night, how to mask the signs of hangover, how to conceal one's liquor from audiences who would use such a habit against one. You probably think this is all easy but it's not, it's the fool who underestimates the task, even the most casual suggestion of alcoholism can set off untold horror. It is a grand masquerade, one your brute little mind wouldn't last a minute in, wherein one's whole being is bent against the institution. It is the desire of nearly everyone around you that you participate wholly and honestly in the disgusting trivialities of a life and they will do everything within their power to make you do so, but with the combined power of alcohol and one's cunning you can evade such human mire: smile at them and nod along as you focus to avoid stumbling down the hall. It is by right of intoxication that you may decline to participate in that which is revolting, that one might retain their personhood in the face of dehumanizing institution. When you embrace the ethos of alcoholism you say to the world: "fuck you, I can do you as shitfaced as I like" and in that defiant moment of self sufficiency one (that is, someone better than you, spectral) can conquer the human condition, to engage in all those motions necessary for the security of person without earnest effort, the refusal of the entire human trial. It is as such that man is free, and you weakness in being unable to see that is your slavery.
That was beautiful. I gotta write a meth one. -
2016-10-23 at 7:04 AM UTC
[greentext]>implying you need alcohol to overcome bullshit social rituals[/greentext]
You just need to be rude. Or make the silly social ritual somehow more interesting through your wit.
When you're rude you lose out economically. The modern world is very good at shutting out people who are more forceful than is proscribed, or more generally those who deviate from some set of norms. You can't be a psychopath and economically successful but in very few situations, all of which are almost certainly bared to you (to basically everyone). That's the truly sinister dimension our society, it is not an impartial exchange of labor for fluid wealth. It is instead a game whereby the winning tactic is exclusively participation in it. What might one do to then to extract the benefits of playing the society-game well while not lowering oneself to an acceptance of the ideals successful play entail? You can go off and be a hermit, but this deprives one of the society-game's winnings, one can play earnestly but this is loss because it implies surrender of the self to successful value-set. What then of behaviors that involve action which appears to be in accordance with the society-game's victory conditions and yet does not subjugate the participant? One can imagine some approaches, I advance merely that alcoholism is one of them. It's engaging in the society game, playing it as a game, and yet holding it ever at arm's length: you can present the aspect of participation and yet reject it in your heart. When you're stumbling through the economic process shitfaced you say, at least to yourself, "this is not worth sobriety" and in so doing cast the absurd contrast the seperates the game-player from the earnest participant. The villainy of our society is not the extraction of labor but the process of coercing buy-in, heart and soul, of participants; thus any avenue which can both succeed in the game-playing dimension and yet fail in the intended internal-state dimension is an act of defiant heroism. Refusal to be marginalized simultaneous with refusal to allow internal states to be governed. This is the means of revolt of the alcoholic, the heroism of the drunk, the refusal to be bowed by those proud denizens of the gutter. -
2016-10-23 at 8:18 AM UTC[FONT=arial] [/FONT][FONT=arial]Machiavelli would somewhat disagree.[/FONT]
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2016-10-23 at 9:24 AM UTCWell I guess I'm black.
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2016-10-23 at 11:16 AM UTCWe're all niggas here
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2016-10-23 at 12:50 PM UTC
…The modern world is very good at shutting out people who are more forceful than is proscribed, or more generally those who deviate from some set of norms. [insert 30,000 infraction points here]…
But we won't name names or anything. ;)
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2016-10-23 at 1:42 PM UTC
When you're rude you lose out economically. The modern world is very good at shutting out people who are more forceful than is proscribed, or more generally those who deviate from some set of norms. You can't be a psychopath and economically successful but in very few situations, all of which are almost certainly bared to you (to basically everyone). That's the truly sinister dimension our society, it is not an impartial exchange of labor for fluid wealth. It is instead a game whereby the winning tactic is exclusively participation in it. What might one do to then to extract the benefits of playing the society-game well while not lowering oneself to an acceptance of the ideals successful play entail? You can go off and be a hermit, but this deprives one of the society-game's winnings, one can play earnestly but this is loss because it implies surrender of the self to successful value-set. What then of behaviors that involve action which appears to be in accordance with the society-game's victory conditions and yet does not subjugate the participant? One can imagine some approaches, I advance merely that alcoholism is one of them. It's engaging in the society game, playing it as a game, and yet holding it ever at arm's length: you can present the aspect of participation and yet reject it in your heart. When you're stumbling through the economic process shitfaced you say, at least to yourself, "this is not worth sobriety" and in so doing cast the absurd contrast the seperates the game-player from the earnest participant. The villainy of our society is not the extraction of labor but the process of coercing buy-in, heart and soul, of participants; thus any avenue which can both succeed in the game-playing dimension and yet fail in the intended internal-state dimension is an act of defiant heroism. Refusal to be marginalized simultaneous with refusal to allow internal states to be governed. This is the means of revolt of the alcoholic, the heroism of the drunk, the refusal to be bowed by those proud denizens of the gutter.
Only when i was forced to do literal slave labor in the form of community service, did i ever feel the need to do it under the influence, so i did ketamine and meth with this professional burglar. He was pretty alright for a career criminal. Or maybe that's the drugs talking, we had a motley crew of burglars, thieves, and people with assault charges, it doesn't matter though i can usually hang out and talk with every level of society, i am very adaptable. But the work absolutely sucked, and the deal was, you do X days of community service and if you do not you do double in prison. Lololol. -
2016-10-23 at 3:09 PM UTCI can only work while drunk. I'm supposed to write a business plan but I need alcohol to do it.
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2016-10-23 at 4:33 PM UTCI think we can all agree on one thing - that Lanny is a terrible person.
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2016-10-23 at 4:47 PM UTC
I think we can all agree on one thing - that Lanny is a terrible person.
Nah nigga' i think we can all agree you are a terrible person. -
2016-10-23 at 5:54 PM UTC
Nah nigga' i think we can all agree you are a terrible person.
C'mon, now. -
2016-10-23 at 6:14 PM UTCCan't we just agree we're all terrible people
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2016-10-23 at 6:45 PM UTC
But we won't name names or anything. ;)
I mean yes, getting banned from an internet forum for breaking the rules is one of many ways in which deviancy is punished. I'd like to think we both have the perspective to realize internet forum politics weren't really the arena I was addressing. -
2016-10-23 at 8 PM UTCYeah but Hillary's e-mails!
