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Download speeds and media playback

  1. #1
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Here's my question, I can't tell if it's dumb yet or not.

    So say when I have 4g speeds on my phone, everything streams fine, and when I have 2g, it doesn't run fine at all.

    What I'm wondering is, instead of us finding newer ways to download things faster or acquire faster speeds, is there a way to modify SOMETHING, or invent a way to improve something like "2g”, making those speeds able to stream things with no problem, or is that literally impossible?

    Sank you
  2. #2
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    This has nothing to do with me wanting better speed. I just want to know if technology could do what I asked or is that literally impossible- to make lower download speeds become faster by somehow making the data easier to download?
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    2G is GPRS/EDGE, maximum speed of 64kbps/128kbps
    3G is UMTS/HSDPA, maximum speed is 512kbps/3mbps
    4G is... I forget what the technology's called, but the current maximum speed is like 100mbps with a much higher theoretical maximum.

    A large part of the available bandwidth is relative to the wireless frequency used - 2G's 128kbps is pretty much the upper limit of how much bandwidth a single channel at that frequency can handle.

    For example in many areas 2G operates at 1800hz - at 1800hz you physically aren't able to transfer more than 128kb/s or so. The only way to increase speeds are:

    1. Use more channels. If your phone uses 2 channels, you can theoretically split traffic and get speeds of 256kb/s. This would require your phone to support multiple channels, and the number of channels available on each mobile phone tower/base station is finite so they'd effectively be cutting the number of users they can service in half.

    2. Find an algorithm that allows you to compress data more effectively so you need less bandwidth in general. Requires a lot of research and we may already be at the most efficient algorithm. Even if a new one is found, it'd require mobile phone radio upgrades (not just software) and new standards to be written, etc.


    I wrote that from memory, sorry if numbers are off but it should give you a good idea as to why it's difficult to build on old radio technology
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  4. #4
    How could you get your phone to use more channels? Is that possible on the consumer end?
  5. #5
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    So if I could master and study data compression algorithms, and find the ultimate ULTIMATE one, I could make it so everyone in the world can use 1g technology with amazing streaming and downloading capability. Full length movies will be compressed to 1mb. That is my goal.

    I WILL be globally known.
  6. #6
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    *drug joke*
  7. #7
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 How could you get your phone to use more channels? Is that possible on the consumer end?

    with the current infrastructure, your phone handset binds IMEI (phone serial) to ICCID (sim card serial) to get a connection - to get more than one connection you'd need more than one handset and SIM card. You could potentially string together multiple phone services and split data channels between them like people used to do with 25k dialup modems, but it'd be a LOT of effort for very little benefit

    Originally posted by mmQ So if I could master and study data compression algorithms, and find the ultimate ULTIMATE one, I could make it so everyone in the world can use 1g technology with amazing streaming and downloading capability. Full length movies will be compressed to 1mb. That is my goal.

    I WILL be globally known.

    potentially yeah, bit you'd be better off applying it to 4G to turn 100mb/s into 10gb/s
  8. #8
    Originally posted by aldra with the current infrastructure, your phone handset binds IMEI (phone serial) to ICCID (sim card serial) to get a connection - to get more than one connection you'd need more than one handset and SIM card. You could potentially string together multiple phone services and split data channels between them like people used to do with 25k dialup modems, but it'd be a LOT of effort for very little benefit

    Heh, I was going to post something similar. "Idk much but I assumed it'd be a LOT of effort for little payoff" but decided not to for whatever reason.

    Do you think you could do this aldra?
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