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  1. #61
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    if you were to 'upload' your mind, would you even be the same person?

    or would you die and have a copy of yourself saved? a completely different life made in your own image?
  2. #62
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by aldra if you were to 'upload' your mind, would you even be the same person?

    or would you die and have a copy of yourself saved? a completely different life made in your own image?

    What makes you who you are? How much of yourself could be changed or removed before you cease to be you?
  3. #63
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Open Your Mind What makes you who you are? How much of yourself could be changed or removed before you cease to be you?

    that too, but I'm more talking about continuity
  4. #64
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Hikikomori-Yume ^ cool post I'll make sure to read l8r (I might go2sleep)

    also

    http://www.kurzweilai.net/projecting-a-visual-image-directly-into-the-brain-bypassing-the-eyes

    You should I want to read your reaction.
  5. #65
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by aldra that too, but I'm more talking about continuity

    If all that makes you who you are is data, then if you took the data out of your brain and put it in an AI machine that data should be you. Is all that makes you who you are data?
  6. #66
    Originally posted by aldra if you were to 'upload' your mind, would you even be the same person?

    or would you die and have a copy of yourself saved? a completely different life made in your own image?

    Well you aren't the same person biologically or psychologically as you were a decade ago, so would you consider yourself to be an entirely new person?
    There are also people who have died and been revived, or people put under anesthesia (such as myself) and despite feeling abnormal we are still very much the same entity.
    It'll be interesting to see the science uncovered around self in the coming years ...
  7. #67
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    The ego is like a ghost. "You" don't actually exist the same way an object exists. "The self" is a complex illusion.

    Post last edited by Open Your Mind at 2017-07-17T17:50:52.019438+00:00
  8. #68
    Most of my mind is already uploaded to google and apples super servers
  9. #69
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Totse 2001

    'I lie awake, staring out at the bleakness of Megadon. City and sky become one, merging into a single plane, a vast sea of unbroken grey. The Twin Moons, just two pale orbs as they trace their way across the steely sky. I used to think I had a pretty good life here, just plugging into my machine for the day, then watching Templevision or reading the Temple Paper in the evening. My friend Jon always said it was nicer here than under the atmospheric domes of the Outer Planets. We have had peace since 2062, when the surviving planets were banded together under the Red Star of the Solar Federation. The less fortunate gave us a few new moons. I believed what I was told. I thought it was a good life, I thought I was happy. Then I found something that changed it all...'

    And the meek shall inherit the Earth...

    The massive grey walls of the Temples rise from the heart of every Federation city. I have always been awed by them, to think that every single facet of every life is regulated and directed from within! Our books, our music, our work and play are all looked after by the benevolent wisdom of the priests...
  10. #70
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by aldra at we still know very little of how data is 'stored' in the brain - ev

    memories arent stored in the brain. they're all stored in our DNA.

    the brain is just a processor that processes the memories stored in our brain.
  11. #71
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    You even have a "sub-brain", in your body.
  12. #72
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Open Your Mind What makes you who you are?

    I am an accumulation of my memories.

    without my memory, i am nothing.

    without me, my memory meant nothing.
  13. #73
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Like dark clouds on a dark night
    Chasing black stars in a black sky
    With worn dreams in a worn heart
    Over torn sails on a tired sea
  14. #74
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    and when i die,

    and when then you remember me,

    i will continue to exist becos in you,

    in your memory

    lies a part of my accumulated memories.
  15. #75
    Originally posted by -SpectraL 'I lie awake, staring out at the bleakness of Megadon. City and sky become one, merging into a single plane, a vast sea of unbroken grey. The Twin Moons, just two pale orbs as they trace their way across the steely sky. I used to think I had a pretty good life here, just plugging into my machine for the day, then watching Templevision or reading the Temple Paper in the evening. My friend Jon always said it was nicer here than under the atmospheric domes of the Outer Planets. We have had peace since 2062, when the surviving planets were banded together under the Red Star of the Solar Federation. The less fortunate gave us a few new moons. I believed what I was told. I thought it was a good life, I thought I was happy. Then I found something that changed it all…'

    And the meek shall inherit the Earth…

    The massive grey walls of the Temples rise from the heart of every Federation city. I have always been awed by them, to think that every single facet of every life is regulated and directed from within! Our books, our music, our work and play are all looked after by the benevolent wisdom of the priests…

    Ayn Rand

    And oddly thats just how thing might become
  16. #76
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Did you wake up and read it yet?
  17. #77
    Originally posted by Open Your Mind Did you wake up and read it yet?

    Morning Star is the star of Lucifer. the angel that holds the light in darkness.. but it's possible that is a misunderstanding. some Gnostics confuse eastern religion with classic Christian Judaeo beliefs of Lucifer.

    this is apart of the movement of dragging down people into a soulless world we chose to exist in now. one where Man and Machines become one and one with one another but not one with God.

    or something.

    Lucky's brand hummus is pretty tasty.. a bit of a lime taste though. I think it was roasted peppers.
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