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bias and magical beliefs

  1. 2017-07-07 at 10:23 PM UTC
    #61
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Originally posted by sploo >objectively real
    >I see there being two sciences. Science as a study of reality, and science as the organization of reality.
    >I definitely consider the laws of physics to be an example of science
    > You can't manipulate the noumenal world.

    omfg

    you're worse than Bill Krozby

    sploo earlier today you were trying to argue that you were the only one conscious of facial expressions

    shut the fuck up.
  2. 2017-07-07 at 10:24 PM UTC
    #62
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by 霍比特人 When I say science I mean 'true science' as in what is objectively real. Obviously science, being a human construct, doesn't know everything.

    I see there being two sciences. Science as a study of reality, and science as the organization of reality.

    I definitely consider the laws of physics to be an example of science/reality. It is (so far) an objective reality about the universe. You can't manipulate the noumenal world. If something is able to be manipulated/changed then it simply isn't true and is therefore no longer science.

    So that's the better part of the issue resolved: when we talk about science in the philosophy of science, and I'll argue even common usage aligns with this, we're talking about either a process by which with study the world or the human institution tasked with studying the world. Using science as a synonym for reality is, uhhh, a little unexpected. But if we understand the terminological issue then you should agree with Obbe's original statement that science (per the usage I've described) is a tool: it's a technique we use to attempt to study the objective world.
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  3. 2017-07-07 at 10:26 PM UTC
    #63
    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Originally posted by 霍比特人 Science is there whether you know its there or not. It is the objective reality of the universe. You can't manipulate science like you can manipulate a chainsaw to build a house, cut a tree, or sculpt ice. You have to follow the rules of science. There is literally no other option, no manipulation involved. You can choose which rules to follow but you can't manipulate the rules.

    If you want to make this a semantics game you can fuck off. Call it reality or whatever. And if you don't believe in objective reality you can also fuck off. You guys know just as well as I do that science is more than just 'the study of.' I'd like to see you give more than a semantics argument on how it is a tool, if that's what you believe.

    When one guy has unique take on a well defined term it will come down to semantics because it confuses things.

    sci·ence
    ˈsīəns/
    noun
    noun: science

    the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
    "the world of science and technology"
    synonyms: branch of knowledge, body of knowledge/information, area of study, discipline, field
    "the science of criminology"
    a particular area of this.
    plural noun: sciences
    "veterinary science"
    a systematically organized body of knowledge on a particular subject.
    "the science of criminology"
    synonyms: physics, chemistry, biology; More
    physical sciences, life sciences
    "he teaches science at the high school"
    archaic
    knowledge of any kind.

    When you're talking about reality, just I dunno say reality? when somebody says science I think about methods not phenomena.
  4. 2017-07-07 at 10:28 PM UTC
    #64
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Originally posted by 霍比特人 sploo earlier today you were trying to argue that you were the only one conscious of facial expressions

    shut the fuck up.

    no i was arguing it can be turned into an academic discipline and there should be an encyclopedia of microexpressions translated into words
  5. 2017-07-07 at 10:29 PM UTC
    #65
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Originally posted by Lanny So that's the better part of the issue resolved: when we talk about science in the philosophy of science, and I'll argue even common usage aligns with this, we're talking about either a process by which with study the world or the human institution tasked with studying the world. Using science as a synonym for reality is, uhhh, a little unexpected. But if we understand the terminological issue then you should agree with Obbe's original statement that science (per the usage I've described) is a tool: it's a technique we use to attempt to study the objective world.

    when you talk to users 100000 times more retarded than me you arent condescendingly asshurt. i think it just reflects your mad level rather than actual opinion on subject matter
  6. 2017-07-07 at 10:31 PM UTC
    #66
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by sploo no i was arguing it can be turned into an academic discipline and there should be an encyclopedia of microexpressions translated into words

    Originally posted by sploo when you talk to users 100000 times more retarded than me you arent condescendingly asshurt. i think it just reflects your mad level rather than actual opinion on subject matter


    My microexpression upon reading this would be indexed under "schadengust", a fusion of the terms "schadenfreude" and "disgust", characterized by a shiteating grin and slight reflexive constrictions of the esophagus as if one is about to vomit.
  7. 2017-07-07 at 10:32 PM UTC
    #67
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    it signals to the observer that they're retarded
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  8. 2017-07-07 at 10:35 PM UTC
    #68
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Originally posted by Lanny So that's the better part of the issue resolved: when we talk about science in the philosophy of science, and I'll argue even common usage aligns with this, we're talking about either a process by which with study the world or the human institution tasked with studying the world. Using science as a synonym for reality is, uhhh, a little unexpected. But if we understand the terminological issue then you should agree with Obbe's original statement that science (per the usage I've described) is a tool: it's a technique we use to attempt to study the objective world.

    To be fair I did not read anything in this thread prior to Obbe's post

    But yes this is all good. We can have sex now, but I will probably continue to mish mash words in the future. If this were a real discussion it probably would've been solved in 10 seconds.

    This happens because my brain is special and you see people like me who are not §m£ÂgØLtypical have trouble holding onto concepts. This is counteracted by our extreme intelligence and overall superiority over most of humanity. I don't blame you guys for not catching on right away. Most normies don't.
  9. 2017-07-07 at 10:36 PM UTC
    #69
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Originally posted by Lanny My microexpression upon reading this would be indexed under "schadengust", a fusion of the terms "schadenfreude" and "disgust", characterized by a shiteating grin and slight reflexive constrictions of the esophagus as if one is about to vomit.

    which muscle in the esophagus constricts? how wide is the grin? is there a subset of muscles used in mouth movements for grins which is more prominent than a usual grin? do the eyes deviate in any saccades? does the grin slant? does the grin hold or is it for a fraction of a moment? if someone talks while having this microexpression does the intonation of their voice change?

    etc

    time to bring out the facial analysis software
  10. 2017-07-07 at 10:39 PM UTC
    #70
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Originally posted by sploo no i was arguing it can be turned into an academic discipline and there should be an encyclopedia of microexpressions translated into words

    Didn't read that either
  11. 2017-07-07 at 10:40 PM UTC
    #71
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by sploo which muscle in the esophagus constricts? how wide is the grin? is there a subset of muscles used in mouth movements for grins which is more prominent than a usual grin? do the eyes deviate in any saccades? does the grin slant? does the grin hold or is it for a fraction of a moment? if someone talks while having this microexpression does the intonation of their voice change?

    etc

    time to bring out the facial analysis software


    the deepthroat ones
    3 ISU (international shitgrin units)
    Yes, the shiteating facial subgroup
    steady eye placement, one eyelid dropped
    the expression may be sustained indefinitely
    one does not talk while maintaining this expression, although typing can be carried out normally
  12. 2017-07-07 at 10:42 PM UTC
    #72
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Originally posted by Lanny the deepthroat ones
    3 ISU (international shitgrin units)
    Yes, the shiteating facial subgroup
    steady eye placement, one eyelid dropped
    the expression may be sustained indefinitely
    one does not talk while maintaining this expression, although typing can be carried out normally

    now i know how to interpret and look for schadengust in everyday situations
  13. 2017-07-07 at 10:44 PM UTC
    #73
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    *Lanny, being cornered with no valid defense, takes off his sunglasses and shows his autism eyes to intimidate*
  14. 2017-07-08 at 1:30 AM UTC
    #74
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by 霍比特人 I think philosophy is mostly useless.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science
  15. 2017-07-08 at 1:50 AM UTC
    #75
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Ur so smart obbe
  16. 2017-07-08 at 2:02 AM UTC
    #76
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by 霍比特人 Ur so smart obbe

  17. 2017-07-08 at 2:06 AM UTC
    #77
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    kill yourself
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  18. 2017-07-08 at 2:20 AM UTC
    #78
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Fucking burnouts.
  19. 2017-07-08 at 2:22 AM UTC
    #79
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    you have actual schizophrenia

    you, Bill Krozby, totse2001, hikimori-yuni, probably obbe

    these are germs
  20. 2017-07-08 at 2:23 AM UTC
    #80
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
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