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Damn I miss the old days - ordering analogs and powders from the chinanet and seeing what kill ya
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2025-02-17 at 3:01 PM UTCThis is before the ketamine, and fentanyl whatever is now. I really don't even know what's going on - that's the problem with getting old, you get disconnected, you get on with life and you become one of the joneses.
But, 2008-2017 internet was fun, you could go to alibaba, taobao, or some "clearnet" pharmacies online, order what you want and it showed up and it was real!
The biggest thing I think was Methoxamine, a ketamine analog, and the rise of the silkroad and the first darknets, and bitcoin eclipising egold as that was seized or something.
that's it - this dates me big time probably, but what do you remember from the old days? be as generic as you'd like - -
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2025-02-17 at 6:14 PM UTChttps://www.vice.com/el/article/criminal-chlorination-0000350-v19n9/
I was a scientific kid, and I followed my curiosity to its natural end. My first actual synthesis was DMT. In retrospect that seems ridiculous, but it was something that I just could not find. Nobody was doing extractions; these were the days before the widespread availability of botanical sources. I studied the synthesis and decided to go the classical route via indole, but my first DMT synthesis was pretty shitty—literally, indole smells like crap—and it just reeked up the building I was living in. This was pre-meth-lab hysteria, so while it wasn’t normal to have your apartment smelling like shit and solvents, it didn’t ring any alarm bells. By the time I successfully produced DMT, I’d learned enough chemistry that I had a much broader synthetic palette to work with. This was probably 1993 or so and there was all this hype around MDMA. Like I said, the terrible raves were in full force. It started out as a very expensive hobby and I gave away whatever I made, but that’s not sustainable in the long term so I began to sell the material as well.
What was your motivation for distributing the chemicals in large quantities?
You hear all this messianic bullshit from chemists. My motive was very clear: I just wanted the opportunity to try drugs that were unobtainable otherwise. I tried MDMA and moved to DOM, mescaline, 2C-B, and various others. I really enjoyed watching the ripple effect of throwing these things out there, to see question marks stretched across people’s faces, and it became my primary source of income for about seven years.
It’s interesting how things have changed. Now most of these drugs can be obtained without much effort, but the precursors for their syntheses are closely guarded.
It’s different. Back then, trying to get any of the substituted benzaldehydes was a serious bitch; those aren’t exactly linchpins of chemical commerce. The straight-to-consumer international chemical trade was in its infancy. But now there’s also a lot more heat on certain things—back then you could buy a 55-gallon drum of camphor 1070 or ocotea oil for $3,000. There’s just no way you could do that kind of thing anymore. I wouldn’t say it’s harder or easier, it’s simply different and it’s always evolving. -
2025-02-17 at 6:29 PM UTCHaving seizures and going to jail were some of my best days 👌🏻
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2025-02-17 at 7:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshocks legendary lance lambasted lanny the lusty lactovegetetarians lovely lubricated loophole like a locomotive limboing a little liserds lalapalooza, luckily leaving the lass lobotomized amateur.
you missed out on the 80s when people could mail-order the ingredients to make HE without taggants. to say nothing of the means to grow ergot mold and purchase ephedrine in limitless quantities for 99-cents a bottle.
and the 60s when you could order a rifle through the mail with no background check.
and the 00s when you could order coke or heroin at the local pharmacy and a nigger would hand-delivery it and if he was late you could beat him and no one cared.
fuck this millenium
how many boys have you ordered through the mail
