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How to win in craps! (Not a bas idea!)

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    This combinedd with a matrix paradigm is unstoppables. nobody uses this site but ninjas, so i guess it safe to reveal my secret closly guarded secret. You see laying odds has no house edge! The houses doesn't always win sometimes they break even lol.

    I bought it years ago from a Guy Named Dave Lessnau. I use to play it at Sams Town back in the day bc of the 100 times odds.

    ITS CALLED "GREEN"

    All WINS are made on the Lay of the point, not the DP. So 7,11,2.3 are pushes and washes out and 1 in 36 a twelve will roll and be a loss on the PL and a push of DP.

    Here are the Rules. Using a $25 unit.
    Table selection is HUGE. Don't go play this on a table where racks are FULL and people high giving and chest bumping. Be smart, look at racks of amount of chips. small racks and no noise equals perfect table to play this.

    1) buy in for 20 units units./$500 for a $25 unit win
    2) Make a doey /dont of minimum to get you a $25 Win. Hopefully a 3-4-5 odds or better house. so maybe $5/5 or $10/$10
    3) once point is established, make a lay bet to Win $25. (Lay $30 on 6/8) (Lay $45 on 5/9) and (Lay $50 on 4/10)
    4) If the bet wins, repeat Level 1 part of bet until you are up 5u of $25 or $125.
    5) If the first part (Lev 1) lay bet loses to a point being made, Make a Lay on very next point to win 2u/$50. (Lay $60 on 6/8)(Lay $75 on 5/9) and (Lay $100 on 4/10).
    6) If you lose Lev 1 but Win L2, you continue back at Lev 1 for next shooter.
    7) If you lose 2nd Lay of point being made to same shooter, you DO NOT go any further with this shooter. You stop and wait for the 7 out and restart Lev 1 next shooter.
    8) Look to collect 5-10u per table and get off the table before someone shows up and hits the 4-10 as points and converts them.
    9) at times depending on house odds, you might have to raise the Lev 2 Doey/Dont flat part to cover potential Lay bet.
    10). If you encounter (2) double Lev 1 and Lev 2 losses, stop and wait for 2 wins before restarting or color up and switch tables.

    Pro's:
    Very successful and beat 72 hrs at the Craps table. I don't know of many systems that have beaten the book in testing.
    Strong versus a table thats only strong do side PL wins are basically 7,11 etc...
    Strong versus 1 point per shooter made.
    Strong versus COLD tables where no one is Passing duh!!!
    By playing Doey/DOnt you are shaving the house edge down and using free odds to get your lay bet up as opposed to just making a Lay bet after the point is already established.
    No More paying $5 for a lay bet to Win $100.
    If at any point you feel the shooter is gonna make this point just swing you lay bet odds over to taking odds. Ive done this a handful of times playing this.

    Con's:
    Weak for Tables of repeating points of 2 or more.
    At some point the tables will turn and even the coldest tables heat up... so make your win goal and bail.. Don't be Greedy.
    Worse case senario is BTB 4/10's as points that shooter converts, as you are laying 2:1

    If you have 72 hrs or another system tester book, just roll 2 dice and thats your starting page number and test a session of 1-2 hrs...

    GL and Hope this makes you al some $$$
  2. #2
    Rough Rider African Astronaut
    Hey bro I talked to my dad and he says he doesn't want you sleeping over because you're too ugly to molest.
  3. #3
    Semiazas African Astronaut
    Not even with a paper bag?
  4. #4
    Rough Rider African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Semiazas Not even with a paper bag?

    You spend a lot of time thinking about how to get little boys molested
  5. #5
    Semiazas African Astronaut
    Do I? I'm going to need some receipts
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    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by CutterLegendaryNinja This combinedd with a matrix paradigm is unstoppables. nobody uses this site but ninjas, so i guess it safe to reveal my secret closly guarded secret. You see laying odds has no house edge! The houses doesn't always win sometimes they break even lol.

    I bought it years ago from a Guy Named Dave Lessnau. I use to play it at Sams Town back in the day bc of the 100 times odds.

    ITS CALLED "GREEN"

    All WINS are made on the Lay of the point, not the DP. So 7,11,2.3 are pushes and washes out and 1 in 36 a twelve will roll and be a loss on the PL and a push of DP.

    Here are the Rules. Using a $25 unit.
    Table selection is HUGE. Don't go play this on a table where racks are FULL and people high giving and chest bumping. Be smart, look at racks of amount of chips. small racks and no noise equals perfect table to play this.

    1) buy in for 20 units units./$500 for a $25 unit win
    2) Make a doey /dont of minimum to get you a $25 Win. Hopefully a 3-4-5 odds or better house. so maybe $5/5 or $10/$10
    3) once point is established, make a lay bet to Win $25. (Lay $30 on 6/8) (Lay $45 on 5/9) and (Lay $50 on 4/10)
    4) If the bet wins, repeat Level 1 part of bet until you are up 5u of $25 or $125.
    5) If the first part (Lev 1) lay bet loses to a point being made, Make a Lay on very next point to win 2u/$50. (Lay $60 on 6/8)(Lay $75 on 5/9) and (Lay $100 on 4/10).
    6) If you lose Lev 1 but Win L2, you continue back at Lev 1 for next shooter.
    7) If you lose 2nd Lay of point being made to same shooter, you DO NOT go any further with this shooter. You stop and wait for the 7 out and restart Lev 1 next shooter.
    8) Look to collect 5-10u per table and get off the table before someone shows up and hits the 4-10 as points and converts them.
    9) at times depending on house odds, you might have to raise the Lev 2 Doey/Dont flat part to cover potential Lay bet.
    10). If you encounter (2) double Lev 1 and Lev 2 losses, stop and wait for 2 wins before restarting or color up and switch tables.

    Pro's:
    Very successful and beat 72 hrs at the Craps table. I don't know of many systems that have beaten the book in testing.
    Strong versus a table thats only strong do side PL wins are basically 7,11 etc…
    Strong versus 1 point per shooter made.
    Strong versus COLD tables where no one is Passing duh!!!
    By playing Doey/DOnt you are shaving the house edge down and using free odds to get your lay bet up as opposed to just making a Lay bet after the point is already established.
    No More paying $5 for a lay bet to Win $100.
    If at any point you feel the shooter is gonna make this point just swing you lay bet odds over to taking odds. Ive done this a handful of times playing this.

    Con's:
    Weak for Tables of repeating points of 2 or more.
    At some point the tables will turn and even the coldest tables heat up… so make your win goal and bail.. Don't be Greedy.
    Worse case senario is BTB 4/10's as points that shooter converts, as you are laying 2:1

    If you have 72 hrs or another system tester book, just roll 2 dice and thats your starting page number and test a session of 1-2 hrs…

    GL and Hope this makes you al some $$$

    As a craps dealer who worked Vegas in the 80s and 90s I'll say this seems plausible. But I don't see any mention of what this strategy does in the event of a lvl 2 win. If the answer is to double the bet again then it's not a bad strategy.
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    Rough Rider African Astronaut
    I'm too poor to know any of this shit
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    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by Rough Rider I'm too poor to know any of this shit

    When I learned craps my rent was $105 per week. I got $100 per week in overage on my Pell grants and Stafford loans for dealers school. Me and my future ex wife sold plasma twice a week for $15 a pop to cover the rest of rent and buy some groceries. In 9 weeks I learned craps not just well enough to play it but to deal it. So poor has nothing to do with it. You're just too stupid and lazy.
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    Rough Rider African Astronaut
    I know this is crazy coming from me but u talk too much
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    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by Rough Rider I know this is crazy coming from me but u talk too much

    I haven't "said" a word.
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    Originally posted by Speedy Parker As a craps dealer who worked Vegas in the 80s and 90s I'll say this seems plausible. But I don't see any mention of what this strategy does in the event of a lvl 2 win. If the answer is to double the bet again then it's not a bad strategy.

    No using the craps matrix paradigm you only progress your base bet when your losing. Lvl 2 win you just regress back to level 1...

    I didn't include the craps matrix paradigm yet...it googleable. This is a closely guarded secret. People don't want it to get it as simple as it is everyone would start doing it like in blackjack and ruin the game for everyone. You can't even play blackjack anymore without secruity coming to get you after you start counting...its aganist thier policy to serve card counters!!!!
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    Originally posted by Rough Rider I'm too poor to know any of this shit

    It just occured to me that many people might not actually know how to play basic craps.
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    Originally posted by Speedy Parker When I learned craps my rent was $105 per week. I got $100 per week in overage on my Pell grants and Stafford loans for dealers school. Me and my future ex wife sold plasma twice a week for $15 a pop to cover the rest of rent and buy some groceries. In 9 weeks I learned craps not just well enough to play it but to deal it. So poor has nothing to do with it. You're just too stupid and lazy.

    well you should try this
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    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by CutterLegendaryNinja No using the craps matrix paradigm you only progress your base bet when your losing. Lvl 2 win you just regress back to level 1…

    I didn't include the craps matrix paradigm yet…it googleable. This is a closely guarded secret. People don't want it to get it as simple as it is everyone would start doing it like in blackjack and ruin the game for everyone. You can't even play blackjack anymore without secruity coming to get you after you start counting…its aganist thier policy to serve card counters!!!!

    That's called chasing, bad idea.
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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    Originally posted by Speedy Parker That's called chasing, bad idea.

    not when done correctly its like the martingale,except it actually wins. i'll have to include the craps matrix paradigm.If you lost anyways must mean the table got hot. But what goes up must go down,when your losing you bet MORE as it should eventually get cold again. But the tables are always cold or everyone would be winning all the time with there pass line bets.

    I combined these two systems. the craps matirx paradigm with the GREEN. Its like a secret holy grail.
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    Semiazas African Astronaut
    The house always wins
  17. #17
    Originally posted by Semiazas The house always wins

    I'm the house!
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