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Just checking who's crazy
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2024-10-31 at 3:22 PM UTC
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2024-10-31 at 3:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas why are you even quoting trotksy; none of it is relevant. have you decided you're a communist now?
“The principles of liberalism can have a real existence only in conjunction with a police system. Anarchism is an attempt to cleanse liberalism of the police. But just as pure oxygen is impossible to breathe, so liberalism without the police principle means the death of society. Being a shadow-caricature of liberalism, anarchism as a whole has shared its fate. Having killed liberalism, the development of class contradictions has also killed anarchism. Like every sect which founds its teaching not upon the actual development of human society, but upon the reduction to absurdity of one of its features, anarchism explodes like a soap bubble at that moment when the social contradictions arrive at the point of war or revolution.”
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2024-10-31 at 3:27 PM UTC
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2024-10-31 at 3:28 PM UTCWe should be engaging in a permanent revolution, a technological revolution with AI and bitcoins and molotov cocktails thrown at politicians of all political spectrum. And a few innocent random people too
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2024-10-31 at 3:28 PM UTC"The worker who becomes a policeman in the service of the capitalist state is a bourgeois cop, not a worker."
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2024-10-31 at 3:29 PM UTCBlackredguard was right! Also murder the revolutionaries once we seize power so they shut up and stop making a mess of things!
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I SUPPORT XI JING PING!!!! ALL HEIL THE COMMUNIST CCP CHAIRMAN MAO DID NOTHING WRONG YOU PUSSY AS FAGGOT CAPITALIST WHITE OTAKU NIGGER MUTT HALF BREED AMERICANS THE PROLETARIAT WILL RISE UP ANDSMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAPITALISM
WORKERS OF THE WORLD RISE UP TROTSKY
KILL THE LANDLORD, MURDER YOUR BOSS, MURDER THE GOVERNMENT, MURDER ANYONE WITH MONEY, GLASSES, ANYONE WHO REFUSES TO WORK FOR THEIR BREAD, PICK UP THE PITCHFORKS AND HAMMERS OF THE PEOPLE AND USE THEM TO SMASH THE MACHINES OF CAPITALISM!!!!!!!!
TAKE THE SMASHED MACHINES OF CAPITALIST GREED AND WASTE AND POVERTY AND ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION AND GIVE IT ALL TO THE PEOPLE TO EACH ACCORDING TO THEIR NEED AND TO EACH TO THEIR ABILITY.
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2024-10-31 at 3:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kafka Where did you get that quote from?
Trotsky talking about the prelude/beginning of the Russian Revolution
Originally posted by Kafka You don't think Trotsky was a communist?
what
Trotsky was a communist, I asked why you're quoting communist beliefs and trying to rationalise them in regards to US politics -
2024-10-31 at 3:35 PM UTCTrotskyism:
Core Principles:
Permanent Revolution
Transitional Program
Internationalism
Critique of Stalinism
Economic/Authoritarian Axes:
Economic Axis: Trotskyism aligns itself with the left side of the economic axis. It advocates for the overthrow of capitalism and the establishment of a socialist society where the means of production are collectively owned and controlled by the working class.
Authoritarian Axis: Trotskyism generally leans towards the anti-authoritarian side of the axis, emphasizing workers' democratic control and opposing bureaucratic or totalitarian tendencies. It criticizes the Stalinist model of socialism for its consolidation of power and suppression of democratic participation.
Marxism:
Core Principles:
Historical Materialism
Class Struggle
Surplus Value and Exploitation
Dialectical Materialism
Economic Axis: Marxism positions itself on the left side of the economic axis. It advocates for the abolition of private ownership of the means of production and the establishment of a classless, communist society where resources are collectively owned and distributed based on need.
Authoritarian Axis: Marxism has varying interpretations on the authoritarian axis. Classical Marxism, as outlined by Marx and Engels, envisions a transitional phase with a temporary dictatorship of the proletariat to dismantle the capitalist system. However, different interpretations and implementations of Marxism can span a spectrum of authoritarianism, with some leaning more towards decentralized and participatory approaches. -
2024-10-31 at 3:38 PM UTCmain difference is Trotsky advocated for a global communist revolution and total dismantlement of nation states, and Marx thought it was possible for existing states to become communist and convert their peers.
or the other way around I don't remember -
2024-10-31 at 3:38 PM UTC
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2024-10-31 at 3:39 PM UTC
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2024-10-31 at 3:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Any necessity doesnt make it less authoritarian. Im sure most authoritarians would suggest that the things they do are for people’s own good. “Hate speech” is entirely subjective, and radicalization is just another way of saying that people might start believing things you dont like. Its the same reason Floridians and conservative states want to ban books on gay shit. Maybe Hitler is just a reductive, easily digestible lie because people are too simple to grapple with any kind of nuanced position ie- its possible for someone to do things you dislike and not be the moral equivalent to someone who started a world war and apparently committed genocide. You dont think that a really lazy comparison? When you asked me to elaborate on liberal philosophy, were you talking about the bit regarding intersectionality?
Do you know what causes terror attacks? Radicalised people. Hate speech isn't subjective. Misinformation, propaganda and hate speech are threats to any society. You're nuts. -
2024-10-31 at 3:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kafka You didn't say that at all. I want to know where the quote is from.
that's exactly what I said, retard, in response to this
Originally posted by Kafka I'm starting to think you don't know what a communist is, that you think it's Putin or Stalin.
also https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2522488-isotriya-ruskoy-revolyutsi
Originally posted by Kafka Who asked?
I was clarifying what scron posted for retards like you -
2024-10-31 at 3:49 PM UTCPeople don't get killed with an ice pick by the State for being wholly incorrect and factually wrong
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2024-10-31 at 3:49 PM UTC
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2024-10-31 at 3:51 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2024-10-31 at 3:51 PM UTC
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2024-10-31 at 3:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kafka Do you know what causes terror attacks? Radicalised people.
terrorism is just political violence. anyone who's politically alienated enough can choose to use violence.Hate speech isn't subjective.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speechHate speech is a term with varied meaning and has no single, consistent definition. It is defined by the Cambridge Dictionary as "public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence towards a person or group based on something such as race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation".[1] The Encyclopedia of the American Constitution states that hate speech is "usually thought to include communications of animosity or disparagement of an individual or a group on account of a group characteristic such as race, color, national origin, sex, disability, religion, or sexual orientation".[2] There is no single definition of what constitutes "hate" or "disparagement". Legal definitions of hate speech vary from country to country.
Originally posted by Kafka Misinformation, propaganda and hate speech are threats to any society. You're nuts.
what constitutes misinformation or propaganda?
have you ever actually looked at the 'fact check' sources?
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rt-news/
almost every 'failed fact check' here is just VOA, a literal US state propaganda outfit funded by the DOD claiming otherwise. -
2024-10-31 at 3:53 PM UTC
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