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How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.
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2023-03-16 at 1:41 AM UTCWhat a retard
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2023-10-27 at 10:02 AM UTChello can someone guide me how to make meth with bmk oil or pmk powder?? i can arrange all the matrials
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2024-01-05 at 6:34 AM UTC#Please help!!
I have tried it several times and the result is still the same, namely there is no ROLLING EFFECT, there is gas and until the bottle is all white, I keep stirring it until the bottle leaks, where is the problem, is it related to lithium?
once again I'm asking for help, I'm out of 200 dollars and this is my last chance, any help is greatly appreciated -
2024-01-05 at 8:02 AM UTCwelcome to the forum
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2024-01-05 at 9:15 AM UTC
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2024-01-05 at 9:35 AM UTC
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2024-01-05 at 11:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by StephenCool9373 #Please help!!
I have tried it several times and the result is still the same, namely there is no ROLLING EFFECT, there is gas and until the bottle is all white, I keep stirring it until the bottle leaks, where is the problem, is it related to lithium?
once again I'm asking for help, I'm out of 200 dollars and this is my last chance, any help is greatly appreciated
there doesn't need to be a rolling effect, but it is ideal. The idea behind the rolling is that there is so much gas being generated that reaction is ensured but if you are sure there is gas it should be getting reduced at least somewhat
more gas is better in a perfect world there would be so much gas that the bottle explodes and gasses every house in a mile radius, it would be a lot of gas but if you've ever done a real birch reduction you can go through those farm grade tanks of 88-0-0 anny like you're fertilizing a field of corn
but you actually technically don't need that much gas even a tiny bit of bubbling could be enough, maybe no movement at all who knows maybe the gas has zero pressure in the bottle somehow, it could work, but I have heard of a theory that the pressure inside the bottle "pushes" the gas into the liquid where the pills are which forces it to react VERSUS the gas floating on top of the liquid and it not reacting
but I suppose that's probably why its called a shake and bake so you can force the reaction to happen
are you spending $200 on just the pills? Batteries are expensive as fuck these days, making this method even less ideal in this current economic climate
You can use this instead of ammonium nitrate it's a bit cheaper $30 for 25kg from a garden supply store and it works just as good as the stuff from cold packs
also this is cheaper than lithium but im not sure how well it works for a shake and bake.
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2024-01-05 at 11:44 AM UTC
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2024-01-05 at 2:10 PM UTCthere was one meth synthesis that used palladium, electricity and a lamb skin condom. The only way to gauge the reaction to know if it was done was to measure the amount of electricity running through it
after a certain amount of coulombs flowed through the reaction you could know when it's done. This is easy to measure with a meter, less so with something like a gas but i'm thinking even the mode crude makeshift shitty gas generation from a leaky vessel if you had some way to monitor it wouldn't really matter and you wouldn't have to shake it either as long as you can ensure enough gas went through the system but there are a lot of variables that you would have to know -
2024-01-05 at 2:48 PM UTCbirch reduction more like BITCH reduction lmao
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2024-01-05 at 2:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood there was one meth synthesis that used palladium, electricity and a lamb skin condom. The only way to gauge the reaction to know if it was done was to measure the amount of electricity running through it
after a certain amount of coulombs flowed through the reaction you could know when it's done. This is easy to measure with a meter, less so with something like a gas but i'm thinking even the mode crude makeshift shitty gas generation from a leaky vessel if you had some way to monitor it wouldn't really matter and you wouldn't have to shake it either as long as you can ensure enough gas went through the system but there are a lot of variables that you would have to know
the one possible scenario where having the condom break would be much worse than the normal meaning -
2024-01-05 at 3:15 PM UTC"Mix up a solution of 5 ml of concentrated sulfuric acid i n 1 50 ml of water. Pour 50 ml into one
beaker. That is the anolyte, or solution which will be in contact with the anode. Pour the other 1 00 ml
into another beaker and add roughly a tenth gram or so of palladium chloride to it and let it dissolve. This
will take some time for all of it to go into solution even with stirring. A brown tinted with yellow solution
will result. That is the catholyte, the mixture which will reduce the chloroephedrine to meth. Take a 250
ml beaker and place it on a magnetic stirrer, clip a well scrubbed K l ing-Tite Naturalamb rubber in one
side of the beaker and put a piece of graphite rod about y,-inch in diameter and a few inches long, inside
Ihe rubber. One can get graphite rod from welding suppliers or by taking apart a dry cell battery. Its
diameter is not really important, but it must not have sharp points which would rip the rubber. Blow
down into the top of the rubber as you insert it so as to innate the condom and avoid rips and holes. A
doubled up Kling Titc will serve better to keep catholyte from the anode. On the opposite side of the
beaker, stand up a Kennedy half dollar. These are clad with nickel, and it is the cathode. Using alliGAYtor
clips, make contact with the half dollar, and with the graphite rod.
Now it is time to add the catholyte or reduction mixture to the beaker. I f it is chloroephedrine made by
PCI5 or SOCl2, just add it to the 1 00 ml beaker mentioned above containing the PdCI2 solution. If it is
from acetic acid solution, simply add that to the same beaker. I f one has the toluene extract from Lucas
reagent, pour the 1 00 ml of dilute sulfuric acid containing the palladium chloride into a sep funnel and
then add the toluene solution, shake and the chloroephedrine will pull out of the toluene into the sulfuric
acid solution, which is the bottom layer. Pour whichever source of chloroephedrine one has into the 250
ml beaker. Then using a pipette or by careful filling, pour the condoms full of the anolyte solution which
comains no palladium. The Kennedy half dollar should be over half immersed.
A glass beaker isn't the only reaction vessel which can be used. The only requirements are that it be
non-conductive so that the cell doesn't short out, and it must also be inert to the dilute acetic and sulfuric
acid used in the process. A measuring cup with a pour lip would be a quite good substitute, and a drink
tumbler would also be serviceable:" -
2024-01-05 at 3:34 PM UTCyea but can u extract beta methyltryptamine from mhrb??
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2024-01-06 at 8:53 AM UTCokay, thanks for the suggestion
Below is a breakdown of the ingredients I used and the step by step I took
which I put in a bottle
1. First I put 100 precursor pills (60ml pseudoepherine/grain)
2. I added 100 ml of ammonium sulfate because there was no scales
3. I added 100ml Naoh because I didn't have a scales
4. I entered 10 ml Na2CO3 because there was no scales
5. I added 100ml methanol
6.I added 100ml toulene/touluene
7.I put in lithium (energizer ultimate lithium battery)
8. I put in 40ml water
9.then I closed the bottle
10. As I mentioned earlier, there is no rolling effect until the bottle leaks for approximately 1 hour and the color is not clear.
11.then I enhancemented it into a glass
12.I took a glass bottle for gas using the hose on the lid
I FILLED IT WITH
13.salt 50 ml Pyrex glass
14.naoh 50ml
15.two pieces of 4x4 aluminum foil
16.then I injected 40ml of HCL into the glass bottle slowly while the tip of the hose was in the glass containing the enhancemented liquid and there was no result
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2024-01-06 at 4:37 PM UTCi think you messed up the gas generator somehow but the actual reaction sounds like it worked. THE GOODS ARE IN THE REACTION FLUID IN THE BOTTLE
maybe you need more foil sometimes those gas gennys can be finnicky
in an ideal world anyone could just buy a tank of HCL and bubble it through anything they want but we dont live in a perfect world so you gotta use weird methodsTo date I have never used Strike's and Fester's method for producing HCl gas. Reasons for this are as follows:
The necessity of laboratory glassware (no OTC hardware).
What seems to be a messy procedure using table salt (but I wouldn't know exactly as I've never tried it).
Difficult dismantling process (at least it seems to be more difficult than mine).
I don't remember the exact journal reference that inspired my method, but I do know that it is described somewhere in Inorganic Syntheses Vol. I.
Okay. First, here is what you need:
Beer bottle (transparant).
Plastic baby syringe (15 ml capacity) found at the pharmacy section at any grocery store.
Four or so feet of ice-maker transparant-white polyethylene tubing found at the hardware store. (I don't remember the exact diameter size. All I know is that it IS the smallest size available.)
One table-leg stopper (rubber, beige or black). Another item of which I don't know the size. Just take your beer bottle into the hardware store and see which size fits snuggly on its top.
One aluminum tube that is the exact diameter size as the polyethylene tubing. Found at the hardware store but don't know what they are used for. They are sometimes made of brass.
One bottle of sulfuric acid drain cleaner.
One bottle of concentrated hardware store muriatic acid (32%?)
Assembling the HCl generator is easy.
Use the aluminum tubing to burrow two holes to the top of the table-leg stopper. Use a twisting motion while appling pressure for about a minute and eventually the tube will pop through.
Place the table-top stopper over the top of the beer bottle. It'll fit snugly.
Insert the polyethylene tubing into the middle-most hole and push through until the tubing hits the bottom of the beer bottle. With scissors or a knife cut off the polyethylene tubing about two inches from the top of the beer bottle.
Take the entire table-top stopper inserted with the polyethylene tubing off of the beer bottle. Pour into the beer bottle a volume of sulfuric acid about an inch high off of the bottom of the beer bottle.
Replace the table-top stopper/polyethylene tubing on top of the beer bottle. Insert the remaining tubing into the last hole of the stopper until about two inches into the bottle. Cut tubing down to desired length.
Pour about twenty milliliters of concentrated HCl into a cup. Extract into baby syringe until syringe is full (15 mL). NO, the HCl will not dissolve any part of the syringe in any way.
Neither the HCl nor the strong sulfuric acid will react with any piece of hardware used in this system. This setup has been tested many times with success.
Insert the syringe into the middle tubing (the one that extends to the bottom of the beer bottle. End should be submerged in Sulfuric acid.) If insertion is difficult, use a knife to scrape the inside of the tubing to allow the syringe to fit more easily.
Securing the set-up with a clamp of some sort attached to a stand is optional but desirable.
Have handy on the side a container full of water.
The use of this set-up to gas ones solvent/amine is just as easy.
With right hand, hold the tubing that will expel gas and lower into the solvent/amine solution.
With left hand slowly start to inject the HCl solution in the syringe into the sulfuric acid. Once it hits the acid, there will be alot of fizzing and foaming and IMMEDIATELY HCl gas will be pumped into the solvent/amine solution. Foaming is sometimes a problem as it starts to reach the top of the beer bottle. Simple wait a while and let it settle and then continue. Sometimes certain brands of drain opener can cause excessive foaming. If this occurs, switch brands.
One syringe is usually enough for an amount of about 30-40 g of product, but if more is needed after all the HCl has been injected, slowly SLOWLY remove the syringe from the tubing, first be letting a crack of air into the system. BEWARE that this is suddenly going to bring a minor rush of HCl from the gassing tube so make sure that it is submerged when doing this step. To continue, refill the syringe and proceed as described above.
Once the gassing is complete, leave the syringe ATTACHED to the injection tube and submerge the gassing tube in the container full of water (If the syringe is not attached to the injecting tube, the following sequence will not occur). Weigh down the gassing tube somehow as it must remain submerged. In a few minutes (about five) the sulfuric acid will cool a bit causing a sucking-back of the water into the beer-bottle. This will happen very suddenly and very fast, but not to worry as the water will only go in as far as the top of the beer bottle. This is actually an advantage as in this way one is able to dilute the remaining HCl gas AND the remaining sulfuric acid. Of course the bottle will get hot but if left aside for a few minutes it will eventually cool making opening the container and dispensing with the acid solution an easy task. If the bottle is opened for whatever reason without the above acid dilution step, HCl gas will be everywhere.
Hope this method will prove useful to you my fellow bees, it sure has been for me! -
2024-03-18 at 7:01 PM UTCsuche eine ordentliche meth synthese dankeThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2024-03-18 at 7:13 PM UTCoh man this is a classic thread
sorry folks but we have advanced to such high levels of underground chemistry that we have discovered ways to make "shake and bake" meth from styrofoam peanuts > cinnamic acid > cinnamaldehyde > p2p > meth
ez just learn advanced level chemistry literally all the steps of a decade of research are in this thread with over a million views.
Now if you'll excuse me I have to cook a pound of meth from a shipping container worth of bulk syrofoam, later nerds.
https://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/novel/000481933.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/bizzybees/comments/14zx9cx/amethyl_cinnamic_acid_to_p2p/
I have been studying these lately, there is an alkene double bond just like isosafrole, there are several fairly simple routes for the epoxidation of either of these. I will post pictures below.
I searched this whole forum, this is the only cinnamic thread so im not covering old ground
This is in cinnamon 80%.. it is very common stuff
If Cinnamic acid was epoxidised, then reformed to a ketone structure with sulfuric (the same as in the peracid route to mdp2p), then if this worked up as though it was p2p, so a reductive amination via Al Hg amalgum, i want to know where the NH2 would land? i believe carbox acids are 'protected' i am thinking the amination will take place in the same way, then from the aminated product the key groups are fairly resistant to many elimination reactions like clemmensen or wolf kishner..
There are several methods of eliminating an aldehyde function, 1 method is to brominate, which will replace the aldehyde function and then react that with NaOH which will steal the bromine away leaving a carbon. there are simpler elimination methods i am sure you guys would know them
The key would be to be able to eliminate the aldehyde function with out destroying that double bond between the second and third carbon.. Most elimination reactions ive seen on cinnamic leave Phenyl Ethanol, so the double bonded carbon get sacrificed..
Anyone have ideas here?
the reagents used below arnt very OTC but its an example of the structure change
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Phenylacetic acid from Mandelic Acid4
15 grams Mandelic Acid (0.1 mol), 2.07g KI (6.25% of theory), and 6g Red Phosphorous is dissolved in a solution of 70ml phosphoric acid and 10 ml of water, and this solution is refluxed for six hours (bp of soln 144°C). After the reaction mixture has cooled down, a little water is added to dissolve precipitated inorganic salts. The solution is extracted with ether, and the pooled extracts washed with a little dilute NaHSO3, followed by water, and is then dried over Na2SO4. The ether is removed under diminished pressure and the residue is distilled (bp 138-139°C/13mmHg). The yield is 12.5 grams (90%) of phenylacetic acid melting at 76°C. 3.2 grams of phosphorous could be recovered from the aqueous solution.
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2024-03-20 at 12:24 AM UTCLooking for pointers, I get the general synth but need help tying it together. I promise to pass on anything I learn to people willing to learn in the future.
kweetman@proton.me
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