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Mother of a school shooter is convicted of manslaughter

  1. #1
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    The mother of a school shooter was convicted of manslaughter.

    A Michigan mother could face up to 60 years in prison after a jury convicted her on Tuesday on four counts of involuntary manslaughter, after her teenage son killed four students in a school shooting in 2021.
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    ner vegas African Astronaut
    actually insane - the ruling is that she was responsible for her son's actions because she didn't lock her guns up, but there's currently no legal requirement to lock your guns up in Michigan. a new law requiring safe storage actually comes into effect in a few days:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/detroit/news/new-michigan-gun-safety-laws-go-into-effect-feb-13/
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    The idiots bought him a gun, knowing full well he was going psycho, then didn't take the gun away when the school alerted them 3 days before the shooting about death threats he drew in his books. They deliberately left him stranded at the school when they asked to take him home.
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    ner vegas African Astronaut
    oh I thought the part about them actually buying him a gun was referring to another case, article's written oddly
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    Originally posted by ner vegas oh I thought the part about them actually buying him a gun was referring to another case, article's written oddly

    Yeah, the cops got the receipt for the purchase of the gun and it was paid for by them.
  6. #6
    ner vegas African Astronaut
    that makes more sense; if you buy a gun for someone too young to legally buy it themselves then yeah, you should be held responsible if they misuse it
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    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ The idiots bought him a gun, knowing full well he was going psycho, then didn't take the gun away when the school alerted them 3 days before the shooting about death threats he drew in his books. They deliberately left him stranded at the school when they asked to take him home.

    whoa.

    i always knew your a facistic communist but never knew your this facisted communisted,

    so what if he SUVed doen a bunch of people. are you going to blame the peepuh who bought him an SUV ?
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    Warcry African Astronaut
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ The idiots bought him a gun, knowing full well he was going psycho, then didn't take the gun away when the school alerted them 3 days before the shooting about death threats he drew in his books. They deliberately left him stranded at the school when they asked to take him home.

    Why would they do this give one fucking reason motherfucka? Star Trek ur thought son the matter?
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    Warcry African Astronaut
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny whoa.

    i always knew your a facistic communist but never knew your this facisted communisted,

    so what if he SUVed doen a bunch of people. are you going to blame the peepuh who bought him an SUV ?

    How does the media know they bought it for him personally and not for their own personal use and he simply helped himself to the gun?
  10. #10
    They bought him the gun for his birthday.
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    Ghost Black Hole
    what a fucking cunt bitch
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    Charles Ex Machina African Astronaut
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ They bought him the gun for his birthday.

    shouldnt we also blame birthdays >
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    The only ones who need to be blamed is the ones helping to get the trigger pulled.
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    Charles Ex Machina African Astronaut
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ The only ones who need to be blamed is the ones helping to get the trigger pulled.

    are you saying the boy didnt have a freewill ?
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    There will always be scenarios where the parents are genuinely trying to be the best parents that they can possibly be, but certain information they simply didn't have. Kids are secretive. Despite parents best efforts, kids will always find a way to hide certain things from their parents. All parents everywhere can't possibly know 100% of every thought, friendship, desire, and intention their child has.

    So in those circumstances, when the parent truly was trying to be the best parent they could be, but their kid still went off and mass killed a bunch of people, is this court ruling going to hold precedent so a DA somewhere can say "AHA! THE PARENTS ARE TO BLAME!"?

    I think it's a rather slippery slope and dangerous prospect to start criminally charging parents for the sins their children make. In this specific case, I think the parents deserve some sort of negligent charges brought on them. I'm not sure if such charges exist on the books yet, but something like, "negligent supervision of a child that led to bodily harm or death" and have varying degrees of punishment for that based on the severity.

    The parents certainly shouldn't be charged with murder or manslaughter or something. They didn't pull the trigger, but they set up a scenario where their retard, mental health son could and did.

    I feel like this case will ultimately be overturned if the parents push it all the way to the Supreme Court and I feel that's probably just.

    Those parents are shitbag, horrible parents who were grossly negligent about the mental health of their own child. They were aware he was troubled and decided to give him a firearm (although he was underage) anyway.

    And apparently Mom liked to have sex orgy parties while Dad was away and was too concerned with that to worry about WTF her son was doing or crying out for lol

    Anyway, the point being, the parents were definitely shitty. They're definitely partly responsible for what happened, but they didn't commit murder. They were grossly negligent to a child that DID. The charge needs to reflect the crime and so should the punishment which I think should be on par with manslaughter in this specific case
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    Ghost Black Hole
    Originally posted by MY Body, MY Choice There will always be scenarios where the parents are genuinely trying to be the best parents that they can possibly be, but certain information they simply didn't have. Kids are secretive. Despite parents best efforts, kids will always find a way to hide certain things from their parents. All parents everywhere can't possibly know 100% of every thought, friendship, desire, and intention their child has.

    So in those circumstances, when the parent truly was trying to be the best parent they could be, but their kid still went off and mass killed a bunch of people, is this court ruling going to hold precedent so a DA somewhere can say "AHA! THE PARENTS ARE TO BLAME!"?

    I think it's a rather slippery slope and dangerous prospect to start criminally charging parents for the sins their children make. In this specific case, I think the parents deserve some sort of negligent charges brought on them. I'm not sure if such charges exist on the books yet, but something like, "negligent supervision of a child that led to bodily harm or death" and have varying degrees of punishment for that based on the severity.

    The parents certainly shouldn't be charged with murder or manslaughter or something. They didn't pull the trigger, but they set up a scenario where their retard, mental health son could and did.

    I feel like this case will ultimately be overturned if the parents push it all the way to the Supreme Court and I feel that's probably just.

    Those parents are shitbag, horrible parents who were grossly negligent about the mental health of their own child. They were aware he was troubled and decided to give him a firearm (although he was underage) anyway.

    And apparently Mom liked to have sex orgy parties while Dad was away and was too concerned with that to worry about WTF her son was doing or crying out for lol

    Anyway, the point being, the parents were definitely shitty. They're definitely partly responsible for what happened, but they didn't commit murder. They were grossly negligent to a child that DID. The charge needs to reflect the crime and so should the punishment which I think should be on par with manslaughter in this specific case

    pedophilw quoting
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    Charles Ex Machina African Astronaut
    Originally posted by MY Body, MY Choice There will always be scenarios where the parents are genuinely trying to be the best parents that they can possibly be, but certain information they simply didn't have. Kids are secretive. Despite parents best efforts, kids will always find a way to hide certain things from their parents. All parents everywhere can't possibly know 100% of every thought, friendship, desire, and intention their child has.

    So in those circumstances, when the parent truly was trying to be the best parent they could be, but their kid still went off and mass killed a bunch of people, is this court ruling going to hold precedent so a DA somewhere can say "AHA! THE PARENTS ARE TO BLAME!"?

    I think it's a rather slippery slope and dangerous prospect to start criminally charging parents for the sins their children make. In this specific case, I think the parents deserve some sort of negligent charges brought on them. I'm not sure if such charges exist on the books yet, but something like, "negligent supervision of a child that led to bodily harm or death" and have varying degrees of punishment for that based on the severity.

    The parents certainly shouldn't be charged with murder or manslaughter or something. They didn't pull the trigger, but they set up a scenario where their retard, mental health son could and did.

    I feel like this case will ultimately be overturned if the parents push it all the way to the Supreme Court and I feel that's probably just.

    Those parents are shitbag, horrible parents who were grossly negligent about the mental health of their own child. They were aware he was troubled and decided to give him a firearm (although he was underage) anyway.

    And apparently Mom liked to have sex orgy parties while Dad was away and was too concerned with that to worry about WTF her son was doing or crying out for lol

    Anyway, the point being, the parents were definitely shitty. They're definitely partly responsible for what happened, but they didn't commit murder. They were grossly negligent to a child that DID. The charge needs to reflect the crime and so should the punishment which I think should be on par with manslaughter in this specific case

    they should charge the father for not discharging into his sons mothers asshole resulting in the preganacy.
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