if anything i think i'm just happy that i actually got to see an anime end. at all. that doesn't happen nearly often enough. oh, shows don't get renewed and they abruptly end in unsatisfying ways, but it's refreshing to see one actually tell its entire story. even if the ending to that story is kinda ass.
i'm glad shinzo abe didn't live to see this because - for reasons i can't quite put my finger on... something to do with ymir - this feels like top tier antinatalist propaganda. he'd be proud of mcdonalds but im not sure how he'd feel about this. 🙏
honestly I still didn't really like the ending, but they executed it pretty well. yeah, I agree with most of what you wrote in the spoiler, especially how the ending seemed like a desperate way for the writer to wash his hands of showing genocide to be the most reasonable course of action.
something I've been finding interesting is the people saying it was never justified; they almost all repeat the same logic that it's not the Marleyans and Paradis peoples who developed a hatred for each other on an ethnic level, it was the bad government and the bad elites that manipulated them, like people don't develop their own worldviews based on being enslaved or slaughtered wholesale.
they genuinely cannot seem to accept that people are able to come to 'bad' conclusions by themselves; they have to be forced into it by wrongthinkers and MAGA hat wearers
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Originally posted by aldra
something I've been finding interesting is the people saying it was never justified; they almost all repeat the same logic that it's not the Marleyans and Paradis peoples who developed a hatred for each other on an ethnic level, it was the bad government and the bad elites that manipulated them, like people don't develop their own worldviews based on being enslaved or slaughtered wholesale.
they genuinely cannot seem to accept that people are able to come to 'bad' conclusions by themselves; they have to be forced into it by wrongthinkers and MAGA hat wearers
Of course they think that way: accepting the idea that a group of people can individually make immoral choices would mean grappling with the possibility that one day they will be found to have made evil choices themselves. It's... pre-emptive scapegoating. Imagine what the post-war period would have looked like if we refused to accept that they'd all been led astray by Hitler and that they weren't true believers in Nazi ideology. They could be post-war Germans one day. They know this in their liserd brains, and it terrifies them (as it should).
It's honestly probably a blessing that the masses are so self-deluded and instinctively insulate themselves from accountability for their immorality. The world would be a much more brutal place without it.
Kind of ironic though. The shepherds are the scapegoats. Ha.
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Originally posted by aldra
honestly I still didn't really like the ending, but they executed it pretty well. yeah, I agree with most of what you wrote in the spoiler, especially how the ending seemed like a desperate way for the writer to wash his hands of showing genocide to be the most reasonable course of action.
something I've been finding interesting is the people saying it was never justified; they almost all repeat the same logic that it's not the Marleyans and Paradis peoples who developed a hatred for each other on an ethnic level, it was the bad government and the bad elites that manipulated them, like people don't develop their own worldviews based on being enslaved or slaughtered wholesale.
they genuinely cannot seem to accept that people are able to come to 'bad' conclusions by themselves; they have to be forced into it by wrongthinkers and MAGA hat wearers
because theyre japaneses.
japaneses will always have this subconscious and unexplainable urge to explain away all the documented attrocities their forefathers have done in the 2nd world war.
everyone and without exception.
thats what i discovered talking to most japanese factory workers that work here. and those that dint - it was because theure too shy to talk.
Originally posted by Meikai
Of course they think that way: accepting the idea that a group of people can individually make immoral choices would mean grappling with the possibility that one day they will be found to have made evil choices themselves. It's… pre-emptive scapegoating. Imagine what the post-war period would have looked like if we refused to accept that they'd all been led astray by Hitler and that they weren't true believers in Nazi ideology. They could be post-war Germans one day. They know this in their liserd brains, and it terrifies them (as it should).
It's honestly probably a blessing that the masses are so self-deluded and instinctively insulate themselves from accountability for their immorality. The world would be a much more brutal place without it.
Kind of ironic though. The shepherds are the scapegoats. Ha.
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There where quite a bit of parallel's to Early 20th century Europe in this series. Discrimination via race, mandatory conscription, nationalism, technology, worldwide conflicts. Heck, even the fair scene was reminiscent of an early 20th century fair, Ice Cream and candy being served en masse.
If Eren hadn't started the rumbling, Eldia would have been crushed by the rest of the world. If Eren did a half-assed rumbling, the remaining people of the world would band together and squash Eldia.
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