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World to hit temperature tipping point 10 years faster than forecast
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2023-10-05 at 1:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian It highlights false information presented by obbe after he has consistently poo-pooed others posting what he says is false information.
Fair, here’s some not false information to help make up for that:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-global-average-temperature-from-the-instrumented-record-The-yearly-average-shows_fig13_322641763
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2023-10-05 at 1:20 PM UTCYou can't make up for a lie by citing unrelated (to the statement made) information.
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2023-10-05 at 1:23 PM UTCThose graphs look really dramatic...till you note the incremental changes are a little over 1 degree and still don't prove beyond doubt it's related to human activity
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2023-10-05 at 1:24 PM UTCHere's another one...see a trend?
Looks a bit like a heart beat huh... -
2023-10-05 at 1:28 PM UTCHow about this one...
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2023-10-05 at 1:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian You can't make up for a lie by citing unrelated (to the statement made) information.
Your overall point seems to be that climate change is some kind of hoax, as evidenced by bogus statements such as the one made by that guy on Reddit and reposted by Obbe. So I was bringing the conversation back to the fact that climate change is not actually a hoax. But yeah if all u wanna do is shit on Obbe I don’t care I guess keep doing that then. I’m just talking about climate change -
2023-10-05 at 1:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Your overall point seems to be that climate change is some kind of hoax
My point was quite clear, the data presented by Obbe was a false information.
Climate change is obviously not a hoax as demonstrated by the graphs above...what is a hoax is blaming human activity as it's primary change...again look at the graphs I cited...there is nothing out of the ordinary going on. -
2023-10-05 at 1:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian Those graphs look really dramatic…till you note the incremental changes are a little over 1 degree and still don't prove beyond doubt it's related to human activity
One degree Celsius in less than a hundred years is unprecedented in the archaeological record, and every time there’s a rapid shift in temperature there’s usually a cause we can identify like a volcanic eruption, asteroid impact etc. The only thing that really explains the current warming trend is basically us, since that’s the only thing that’s really changed in the last hundred years is we now put hundreds of millions of tons of carbon in the air. -
2023-10-05 at 1:33 PM UTC
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2023-10-05 at 1:35 PM UTC
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2023-10-05 at 1:35 PM UTC
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2023-10-05 at 1:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Nobody is disputing that temperature changes occur all the time if you’re looking at the entire history of earth. What’s alarming is the rate of change and the fact that it’s due mainly to human activity
That's not been proven though...as demonstrated by the heart beat graph...LONG before human activity had any possible impact...again the peaks and valleys follow a pretty damn perfect pattern. -
2023-10-05 at 1:37 PM UTCData is worthless unless it is contextualized. In the context of the history of the world, a few degree change will not mean much life will continue and some kind of equilibrium will eventually be reached. The problem is what happens to us in the meantime when coastal cities flood and massive famines and droughts lead to excess deaths, civil unrest, mass migrations
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2023-10-05 at 1:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian That's not been proven though…as demonstrated by the heart beat graph…LONG before human activity had any possible impact…again the peaks and valleys follow a pretty damn perfect pattern.
Again look at the timescales, the context by which this data is presented. You’re looking at a change of a couple degrees over tens of thousands of years. Not 1-3 degrees in 200 years -
2023-10-05 at 1:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian Nothing was explained
I mean it's all very simple…you can't make the statement "Hottest January on record"…when it's only Jan 5th and expect to be taken seriously
i looked into it and theres nothing wrong with thr statement.
it doesnt matter if it was said on the 5th or the 15th or 35th of january of 2023, the point being if jan 3rd recorded a 50°C and never in the recorded history of mankind has any january being anywhere near 50°C,
then theres nothing wrong with the statement jan 2023 is the hotest january in known human history.
theres absolutely nothing wrong even if jan 7 recorded a temperature of 66°C or not, it doesnt matter because no where in recorded history has a january being as hot as what occured on jan 3rd 2023.
johnson boy is just incompetent with his native language.
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2023-10-05 at 1:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian
The graph details massive changes in climate in very short periods….the current "warming" is very much in line with the other peaks is it not?
“Short” is relative. To the age of earth a hundred thousand years is extremely short. So how short is a hundred years.
So to answer your question, no the current warming trend is not in line with historical trends -
2023-10-05 at 1:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Again look at the timescales, the context by which this data is presented. You’re looking at a change of a couple degrees over tens of thousands of years. Not 1-3 degrees in 200 years
?? The Are you blind?
Look at the "heartbeats"...they literally rise at the same rate as the current one...a HUGE increase in temp in a small period of time. -
2023-10-05 at 1:43 PM UTC
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2023-10-05 at 1:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian ?? The Are you blind?
Look at the "heartbeats"…they literally rise at the same rate as the current one…a HUGE increase in temp in a small period of time.
You probably don’t have a lot of experience reading charts. What you think is a small amount of time is on the order of thousands or tens of thousands of years. It just looks like a sharp line because they have to fit all that data on a small chart. If you mapped it out in intervals of one thousand years instead of hundreds of thousands of years, it would look almost like a straight line -
2023-10-05 at 1:45 PM UTC
