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Prison planet/humans are not native to earth theories
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2023-07-10 at 7:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by trippymindfuk That's as good a theory as any others I've heard
If you remember N0 WARNING from Zoklet he's the one who introduced me to the theory, he said he just never talked about it because people would think he was crazy and laugh him off. But he has some really good points to his theory. -
2023-07-11 at 9 AM UTC
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2023-07-11 at 9:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by trippymindfuk I think it's an extremely interesting theory honestly, makes as much sense as any other theory about the origins of humans. Anyway what is y'all's take on this?
I fucks with these theories heavy, but just for funzies, as a creative writing exercise (minus the writing) 'cause... man... it really doesn't make much sense at all if you think about it. Like, two big obvious things that get stuck in my craw if I try to take this seriously:
1) It'd mean throwing out ~all of our understanding of human civilization and the evolution of our species. Man it sure is weird how we're like 98% genetically identical to chimpanzees if we don't share an ancestor.
2) Animals get sick too. Evolution doesn't strive for perfection - it's satisfied with 'good enough'. Turns out, being shit at digesting wheat gluten or whatever isn't such a big flaw that your lineage goes extinct. Whales get cancer too. A lot of it. Supposedly they're just really great at tanking the damage. Cancer is largely in an evolutionary blind spot - it tends to kill people long after they've reproduced and spread their "faulty" genes (objectively they really aren't faulty, they do exactly what they're supposed to until it stops mattering). It is weird that like... childhood leukemia is a thing, but I suppose it's rare enough that in the eyes of nature it really doesn't matter.
Now, you can fix these inconsistencies somewhat by saying that we are - rather than prisoners or exiles - refugees who arrived on an Ark carrying the native mammalian fauna from our home planet or something, but we'd have to have arrived millions of years prior to the K-T extinction (the oldest mammal fossils are 200 million years old). It'd be kinda fucked if a group of people from a spacefaring civilization and their descendants took 200 million years to figure out really complicated stuff like "fire" and "cultivating grain". And there is, sadly, no evidence for industrial civilization in our deep history (prior to the ice age).
Even if we ignore the existence of other animals who we share an evident genetic link to (we can handwave this as a really wild coincidence of convergent evolution or something), and only look at the point in time from which we believe modern humans first showed up on the scene... it's not great. Apparently we actually have a pretty good idea of when we first domesticated grain, what plant it descended from, and where this happened (~10000-12000 years ago, Triticum boeoticum, around 100 miles from Gobleki Tepe in Turkey). Humans we put at around 300,000 years ago. So we're still talking "people from a spacefaring civilization took 290,000 years to figure out farming".
You should play the Homeworld games if you haven't, anyway. They're old, but I think there's a remaster and like... the story is 🔥🔥🔥. -
2023-07-11 at 12:19 PM UTC
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2023-07-12 at 7:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai I fucks with these theories heavy, but just for funzies, as a creative writing exercise (minus the writing) 'cause… man… it really doesn't make much sense at all if you think about it. Like, two big obvious things that get stuck in my craw if I try to take this seriously:
1) It'd mean throwing out ~all of our understanding of human civilization and the evolution of our species. Man it sure is weird how we're like 98% genetically identical to chimpanzees if we don't share an ancestor.
2) Animals get sick too. Evolution doesn't strive for perfection - it's satisfied with 'good enough'. Turns out, being shit at digesting wheat gluten or whatever isn't such a big flaw that your lineage goes extinct. Whales get cancer too. A lot of it. Supposedly they're just really great at tanking the damage. Cancer is largely in an evolutionary blind spot - it tends to kill people long after they've reproduced and spread their "faulty" genes (objectively they really aren't faulty, they do exactly what they're supposed to until it stops mattering). It is weird that like… childhood leukemia is a thing, but I suppose it's rare enough that in the eyes of nature it really doesn't matter.
Now, you can fix these inconsistencies somewhat by saying that we are - rather than prisoners or exiles - refugees who arrived on an Ark carrying the native mammalian fauna from our home planet or something, but we'd have to have arrived millions of years prior to the K-T extinction (the oldest mammal fossils are 200 million years old). It'd be kinda fucked if a group of people from a spacefaring civilization and their descendants took 200 million years to figure out really complicated stuff like "fire" and "cultivating grain". And there is, sadly, no evidence for industrial civilization in our deep history (prior to the ice age).
Even if we ignore the existence of other animals who we share an evident genetic link to (we can handwave this as a really wild coincidence of convergent evolution or something), and only look at the point in time from which we believe modern humans first showed up on the scene… it's not great. Apparently we actually have a pretty good idea of when we first domesticated grain, what plant it descended from, and where this happened (~10000-12000 years ago, Triticum boeoticum, around 100 miles from Gobleki Tepe in Turkey). Humans we put at around 300,000 years ago. So we're still talking "people from a spacefaring civilization took 290,000 years to figure out farming".
You should play the Homeworld games if you haven't, anyway. They're old, but I think there's a remaster and like… the story is 🔥🔥🔥.
explain this
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2023-07-12 at 7:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by trippymindfuk So lately I've been watching lots of conspiracy theory iceberg videos on YouTube, like this one, for shits and giggles. (Long but something good to put on and fall asleep watching)
A couple different ones have spoken about the theory that humans are really prisoners from another planet, seeing as we're prone to so many diseases and illnesses. They gave the example of so many people having lower back pain because we are from somewhere that doesn't have as much gravitational force on us, we get cancer and different things like celiac and food allergies because we weren't meant to be eating the food we eat.
I think it's an extremely interesting theory honestly, makes as much sense as any other theory about the origins of humans. Anyway what is y'all's take on this?
Oh by the way I've been needing to wear a tin foil hat since about 09/10 so I'm self aware of my lunacy and I accepted it long ago
as opposed to the other animals that live here and naturally have no disease, cancer, spine pain, broken bones, damage, and vitamin deficiencies?
Or were the squirrels and whales here also prisoners in Nibiru that were shipped out to Earth?
*Masturbation hand movement*
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2023-07-12 at 1:44 PM UTCIf Earth was a prison planet there wouldn't be such luxuries as Donuts or Asian spa rub downs.
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2023-07-29 at 7:58 AM UTC
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2023-07-30 at 1:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson If Earth was a prison planet there wouldn't be such luxuries as Donuts or Asian spa rub downs.
Did they not have doughnuts back home when you were growing up? Or was your mum dumped by a GI after the war and forbid you to eat this delicious American confection as a lad? -
2023-08-01 at 1:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Did they not have doughnuts back home when you were growing up? Or was your mum dumped by a GI after the war and forbid you to eat this delicious American confection as a lad?
They had doughnuts I'm sure but we were too poor to buy them, my mom was born in 1942 so a GI dumping her would be pretty rapey.
Not sure what that has to do with my observation though...the various wings of the prison planet wouldn't have different foods available...it would all come from the central kitchen, no doughnuts for Brits, no doughnuts for Americans etc...if it were a prison planet.
Also how come no new inmates are brought here?...only new ones born...doesn't make sense, if it was a prison there would be new inmates dropped off everyday and they surely wouldn't all be human. -
2023-08-01 at 1:42 PM UTCWhat if being human was a violation of intergalactic law?
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2023-08-01 at 2:34 PM UTC
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2023-08-01 at 3:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny whats the definition of human according to the intergalaxtic law.
You seem confused. It appears that you are under the impression that every question i ask is directed personally at you. Let me help. Going forward I'm not asking you a question unless I say, "Hey Vinnie, i would like a direct response from you and you alone on the following question". I hope this saves you from future embarrassment. -
2023-08-01 at 3:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker You seem confused. It appears that you are under the impression that every question i ask is directed personally at you. Let me help. Going forward I'm not asking you a question unless I say, "Hey Vinnie, i would like a direct response from you and you alone on the following question". I hope this saves you from future embarrassment.
doesnt matter what your answer is or who you answers to.
its just a simple demonstration that you are unable to elaborate further and deeper into what you postulated. -
2023-09-14 at 12:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox This seems uninteresting and extremely dumb. If we aren’t from this planet why do we have a direct traceable genetic lineage to other animals that predate humans. That’s just the first most obvious hole in this “theory”
the concept is all species in the universe will share a DNA stucture of one another.
I don't believe in this shit either but I at times wonder if cuttlefish or squid, octopi come from other planets with liqued water but they were the most evolved on their planet.
did OP just watch AJ on Why Files? I love heckle fish. he's funny. gonna buy something as a stockings stuffer for the gal. he's one of the few Youtubers I watch these days. most have gone to shit -
2023-09-14 at 2:45 AM UTC
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2023-09-14 at 9:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by Chios Honey the concept is all species in the universe will share a DNA stucture of one another.
I don't believe in this shit either but I at times wonder if cuttlefish or squid, octopi come from other planets with liqued water but they were the most evolved on their planet.
did OP just watch AJ on Why Files? I love heckle fish. he's funny. gonna buy something as a stockings stuffer for the gal. he's one of the few Youtubers I watch these days. most have gone to shit
the same way we picked up our mitochondriacs. -
2023-09-14 at 10:49 AM UTC
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2023-09-15 at 3:54 AM UTC
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2023-09-15 at 1:17 PM UTCAlien intervention