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troons r good and u shud treat me like a girl >:(
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2023-08-06 at 11:56 AM UTCthis is just like... true, ok? and its for ur own benefit. for the good of society. but like, its only good if you also keep thinking i'm gross or something? basically, u shud treat us as women who are flawed and gross - like fat chicks. and then you should just not have a fat acceptance movement for us. over time you can take traits that are common among trans and cis women, and build an association between trans women exclusively with those other traits, and control women's behavior that way.
anyway this is some supervillain tier shit n im done -
2023-08-06 at 12 PM UTCwe could be friends but I wouldn't respect your pronouns or fuck you
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2023-08-06 at 12:02 PM UTCbasically if trans = unloveable woman
any trait that a woman sees in herself and a trans woman will become a mark of shame. this is kinda the status quo, people already use mistaking them for trans as a way to manipulate the emotions of women in pointless ways, but you could actually harness this for your benefit on a societal scale with trans acceptance (as women) but not trans acceptance (as good women).The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-08-06 at 12:08 PM UTCjust out of curiosity, what made you choose THE LIFE™?
are you one of those autogynephilic types who got a boner dressing up in mother's clothes?
did you feel inadequate or distant from masculinity growing up?
did you get wariated?
I get that the usual answer is just going to be 'I feel more like a woman than a man' but that's so trite and subjective I have to imagine there's more to it than that -
2023-08-06 at 12:10 PM UTCJust saying I've got a strong feeling that refusing to treat trannies as chicks is not the game theoretically optimal play for trans people (obviously) or many of the people refusing to do so (if you need to do it to be right with your god, obviously you're going to have strong disagreement with this, and I'm in no position to argue with your god). 😤
But from a pragmatic sense, you could be using us as voodoo dolls. -
2023-08-06 at 12:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai basically if trans = unloveable woman
any trait that a woman sees in herself and a trans woman will become a mark of shame. this is kinda the status quo, people already use mistaking them for trans as a way to manipulate the emotions of women in pointless ways, but you could actually harness this for your benefit on a societal scale with trans acceptance (as women) but not trans acceptance (as good women).
like having a dick? -
2023-08-06 at 12:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra just out of curiosity, what made you choose THE LIFE™?
are you one of those autogynephilic types who got a boner dressing up in mother's clothes?
did you feel inadequate or distant from masculinity growing up?
did you get wariated?
I get that the usual answer is just going to be 'I feel more like a woman than a man' but that's so trite and subjective I have to imagine there's more to it than that
I've probably told this story a few times here, definitely told it elsewhere, but the long and short of it is... a couple things. The one I like to cling to because it's cute and innocent is the time I had a dream in which I was a girl, back when I was probably like... 6 or 7? Had to be that young, because it was when my grandpa was still alive. I was just really fucking happy in that dream, man. So happy, in fact, that I remember asking my grandpa what I could do to make sure I had the same dream as before. Basically: it was such a profound experience that it made me want to pursue something akin to lucid dreaming a decade before I even learned what that was. He suggested "thinking about it really hard" as I fell asleep, and I basically did that every night for months until I gave up (because it never worked) .
In case you're wondering I don't think I actually told him what the dream was about, but could be that I was just so young he didn't think of it as unusual. idk. Shit, I might have even technically been as young as 5, now that I think about it - I think he passed in Feb 97. In which case I woulda been 6 but that only would have been true for a few months. He was hospitalized for a bit toward the end, and I'm pretty sure he was still living at his house when I asked him how I could relive a dream.
I did try wearing my moms shoes at one point and got scolded hard. I still remember the difference in vibe that scolding had. Or something. It was weird, because they couldn't really explain why it was bad - just one of this things - and because I guess there seemed to be a tinge of fear in the scolding? Like the fact that they couldn't really communicate why it was bad scared them? IDK. This was also pre-puberty, so no: no boners.
After that scolding and the vibe it had (there's something extra bad about getting in trouble in a way that you think scared your parents as opposed to just making them mad), I was pretty staunchly - one might even go as far as to say overcompensatingly - gender conforming, at least until a couple of years into puberty when I... uhh... I definitely started to do things which would support an armchair diagnosis of autogynephilia.
It's just like... always been a thing for me, dude. Practically my whole ass life. Even while I was being "staunchly gender conforming", that was only an outward thing. This is in the land of quasi-autogynephilic reasons that led to me transitioning, but like... I'm prone to magical thinking, right? I think that's fairly evident in a lot of the shit I've posted recently. So imagine you're a magical thinker at some point before actually hitting puberty, and you suddenly started to tingle down there - not a full on boner, just a weird sensation. Yeah, my ass got giddy that I might be transforming. I actually had that sensation a few times throughout puberty, looooong after popping boners was the norm, and still... every time I felt it, I'd kinda get this vain hope that... maybe? Maybe this time..?
I learned about HRT at 17 and that was pretty much it for me. Once I knew I had that option, this outcome was pretty much inevitable. My biggest regret is putting it off from 17-25 because I "wasn't sure" and was scared that I'd be too ugly for literally anyone to find attractive and it wouldn't make me happier (thankfully I was wrong on both counts). Hindsight is 20/20.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-08-06 at 1:02 PM UTCSo of the options listed I guess the most plausible scenario is I was molested as a 5 year old and repressed that and in its place I created a memory about a dream that made me really happy, which led to a lifetime of repressed autogynephelia with the dam finally breaking after 2 decades.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of theories about people which have literally 0 empirical evidence, but others are less scrupulous. Like... it's one thing when the person saying "xyz happened" has not verified it happened with their own senses - whatever, that's normal, that's like 99.99% of claims, many of which are true. But when the thing they're talking about is something that HAPPENED TO A CONSCIOUS PERSON, and not even they can verify it? Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
If you're gonna tell me I got molested, who did it? Could have been a dragon, fuck it. God himself molested me. It was a virgin trans-conception. -
2023-08-06 at 1:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bradley like having a dick?
despite being an example of a trait "shared between trans women and women" in this scenario (since it supposes treating trans women as women), it would not be an example of one that is useful for the super villain type purposes i've put forth itt.
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2023-08-06 at 1:31 PM UTCi can accept trans women as people with cancerous growth between their legs that look like a penis.
yea, i can accept that.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-08-06 at 1:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai I've probably told this story a few times here, definitely told it elsewhere, but the long and short of it is… a couple things. The one I like to cling to because it's cute and innocent is the time I had a dream in which I was a girl, back when I was probably like… 6 or 7? Had to be that young, because it was when my grandpa was still alive. I was just really fucking happy in that dream, man. So happy, in fact, that I remember asking my grandpa what I could do to make sure I had the same dream as before. Basically: it was such a profound experience that it made me want to pursue something akin to lucid dreaming a decade before I even learned what that was. He suggested "thinking about it really hard" as I fell asleep, and I basically did that every night for months until I gave up (because it never worked) .
In case you're wondering I don't think I actually told him what the dream was about, but could be that I was just so young he didn't think of it as unusual. idk. Shit, I might have even technically been as young as 5, now that I think about it - I think he passed in Feb 97. In which case I woulda been 6 but that only would have been true for a few months. He was hospitalized for a bit toward the end, and I'm pretty sure he was still living at his house when I asked him how I could relive a dream.
I did try wearing my moms shoes at one point and got scolded hard. I still remember the difference in vibe that scolding had. Or something. It was weird, because they couldn't really explain why it was bad - just one of this things - and because I guess there seemed to be a tinge of fear in the scolding? Like the fact that they couldn't really communicate why it was bad scared them? IDK. This was also pre-puberty, so no: no boners.
After that scolding and the vibe it had (there's something extra bad about getting in trouble in a way that you think scared your parents as opposed to just making them mad), I was pretty staunchly - one might even go as far as to say overcompensatingly - gender conforming, at least until a couple of years into puberty when I… uhh… I definitely started to do things which would support an armchair diagnosis of autogynephilia.
It's just like… always been a thing for me, dude. Practically my whole ass life. Even while I was being "staunchly gender conforming", that was only an outward thing. This is in the land of quasi-autogynephilic reasons that led to me transitioning, but like… I'm prone to magical thinking, right? I think that's fairly evident in a lot of the shit I've posted recently. So imagine you're a magical thinker at some point before actually hitting puberty, and you suddenly started to tingle down there - not a full on boner, just a weird sensation. Yeah, my ass got giddy that I might be transforming. I actually had that sensation a few times throughout puberty, looooong after popping boners was the norm, and still… every time I felt it, I'd kinda get this vain hope that… maybe? Maybe this time..?
I learned about HRT at 17 and that was pretty much it for me. Once I knew I had that option, this outcome was pretty much inevitable. My biggest regret is putting it off from 17-25 because I "wasn't sure" and was scared that I'd be too ugly for literally anyone to find attractive and it wouldn't make me happier (thankfully I was wrong on both counts). Hindsight is 20/20.
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2023-08-06 at 1:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny but what part of being a girl that makes you happy.
not sure that's the right question, or if it is i don't know the answer.
i think a better question, which i also don't know the answer to, might be "what makes me unhappy as a man and happier as a woman, where other people of my sex are happy as men and would be unhappy as women?"
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okay, well, i don't think they necessarily would be unhappy as women - most guys envy women their ability to cum 40 times in a row and their ability to easily find help in doing so. but like... if it were permanent, i think that'd be troubling for some of them anyway. the sex novelty would definitely wear off quick. i think most guys would eventually adapt to life as a woman tho, and be able to live happily. people are generally resilient. it'd be fucking weird for them, and if they could change back they probably would, but they'd probs pull through. its more like... they'd be particularly traumatized by the unpleasant aspects of womanhood. think: periods, the physical realities of pregnancy, menopause, dealing with men. all the the stuff women complain about that men really don't experience.
whereas i'd only be... like... traumatized the normal amount.
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2023-08-06 at 1:51 PM UTCthat is, uhh... it's a better question because of the stuff that follows in brackets. i don't think i'm unique in being happy as a girl. i think a lot of cis guys would be too, if push came to shove. it's more that i'm miserable unless. why? couldn't tell you. one aspect, unironically, is that i'm attracted to men but hate the aesthetics of men banging men. hard to have a sex life if picturing the act is viscerally offputting. but that's almost literally just autogynephilia, worded slightly differently (well its more like... nonautogynephobia or something - not 'being turned on thinking of yourself as a woman', but 'being incredibly uncomfortable when not doing that').
but as established, this predates puberty and sex entirely. why was that dream so good? why did it feel so right? I DON'T KNOW. I have magical thinking to explain it, but nothing concrete. it's a 'what is the meaning of your life' type question. a really really good one. -
2023-08-06 at 2:17 PM UTCHmmm... best way I can describe it is like... a Plato's Allegory of the Cave thing maybe? Getting closer to the ideal version of me (I meant this in the platonic sense, but I would also consider it ideal in the more typical, less formal sense) makes me happy, perhaps because I see it as my embodying more of the... philosophical Truth of reality? And since ideal applies in both senses, of course I'd be happier as I changed to become a more and more ideal version of myself.
But without the Platonic underpinning that just begs the question "okay but why is that your ideal" and we're back to "I dunno". -
2023-08-06 at 3:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai despite being an example of a trait "shared between trans women and women" in this scenario (since it supposes treating trans women as women), it would not be an example of one that is useful for the super villain type purposes i've put forth itt.
so… yes, but you're kinda missing the point.
You're kinda missing a double X chromosome. -
2023-08-06 at 3:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bradley You're kinda missing a double X chromosome.
People care about their heritage to the point of specifying quarter-ethnicities, and nobody bats an eye at that. I have one half of the required set, so I just see this as my being more woman than those people are the ethnicities they cling to for identity. My mom gave me this beautiful X chromosome, and while I'd rather have had a second X chromosome from one of my grandma on dad's side I'm grateful for what I've got. I do still want more than I have, but that's why I'm doing all this in the first place. Maybe this life is a layup for the second x chromosome in my next life, man. Who knows? -
2023-08-06 at 3:47 PM UTCoh like when black people say that they're White because they're mom is and they don't have a dad.
This kid named Xavier said when I was like 16, he was 11 and talking at the park and he said "I'm happy that i'm half white and half black so both groups love me as their own."
I'm like oh kid you got a rude awakening coming up soon. -
2023-08-06 at 3:50 PM UTCif you're not a woman (based on XY) chromosomes and remove your balls to help you better LARP around, you gotta kinda accept you're not a woman, you're not gonna reproduce, you're gonna have to take a cocktail of different chemicals to modify your hormones and will kill yourself or get cancer by 50. Most trannies have mental illnesses (outside of being trans), kinda indicative of the platform you're espousing.
but yes you can go and get your moobies put in real perky, you can wear shit from Forever21, you can tape your weiner to your buttcheeks, and talk in a higher voice than is real, making sure you shave (cuz you're still a dude whose gonna grow facial hair) and maybe wear a scarf to cover up the adam's apple.
But you're still a man, bro. It's just for fun and you're taking this gender costume party way too far.
But you also did get your nuts off so you do have some big balls (or not really since you're a woman)
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2023-08-06 at 3:54 PM UTCAs I've gotten older I've pretty much say people should do what makes them happy. You're not harming anyone with your choices so do what makes you happy.
I only have a problem with those crazy bitches convincing little kids they are not what they where born as.
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2023-08-06 at 3:59 PM UTCi remember my ex (a tranny that's way hotter than you) during Covid would wear masks at work (She worked at a GoodWill and everyone told me she's retarded but then I found out she's the assistant manager lol but for like 6 months i thought she was retarded cuz my friends put that idea in my head)
and one day she takes her mask off (we weren't dating at the time) while we're on video chat and she's got a fucking goatee bro
i'm like what the fuck am I doing with my fucking life
and she's all stoned laughing and told me she'd tried to trim it like mine (knock off the sides/throat area to make a standard goatee) she thought it was funny "she" her name was austin lol sometimes I still call her that infront of her grandma (who also still calls her austin, tells her she's going to hell and pays for gender reassignnment stuff)
im like ya grandma right austin u don't have a big adam's apple, not 4,000$ to get it shaved down big, get real and her grandma would nod, and I'd say, "You could like use that money to buy a new car" and her grandma be nodding and then she said "Don't ever tell my grandma what to buy me or not buy me." like real aggressive like a dude
I also seen her fight and she just throws straight fists at these tiny little girls at the bar and tells them to suck her dick (which is very bizarre to watch)
