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What religion are you?
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2016-04-10 at 8:32 PM UTCInb4 the religion of trianglism
Seriously though, is anyone here religious? I'm a Catholic because I believe people have their own free will unlike protestants who believe they have no free will. I believe in the devil, Protestants and presbyterians tend to be mediocre in their appreciate for art, music, and personal freedom, I've always been against the mindset that makes people congregate as a mandatory requisite towards being apart of that religion.
My grandma is one of my main influences for being catholic, you can tell that she has a pure heart at 93 years old, and she's a lot like me, she may be poor but she always holds love in her heart and does her own thing regardless of the people around her.
I believe in the bible because maybe it didn't play out like that exactly in history verbatim, but it represents a mythos, its not from the past its it's own area that has nothing to do with time, theres somethings that have always been and will always be
So how about you guys?
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2016-04-10 at 8:45 PM UTC
I'm a Catholic because I believe people have their own free will unlike protestants who believe they have no free will.
Lol, you realise only a fairly small minority of protestants hold to calvinist notions of predestination right? -
2016-04-10 at 8:52 PM UTCI don't know; I think threres some higher shit going on, and there are higher beings (not "gods", but they'd have some god-like abilities to us because they're on a higher dimension),
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2016-04-10 at 8:59 PM UTCThe Pope would slap the shit out of you, scumfuck. You'll definitely go to hell if it exists.You break every fucking rule in the Bible except maybe the murder thing. You're a hypocrite and God hates you for that.
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2016-04-10 at 10:19 PM UTC
The Pope would slap the shit out of you, scumfuck. You'll definitely go to hell if it exists.You break every fucking rule in the Bible except maybe the murder thing. You're a hypocrite and God hates you for that.
Sure the pope might slap the shit out of me, but he'd only do it because he loves me. It's called tough love. Germans wouldn't know anything about that as they are weak in character and self righteous. -
2016-04-10 at 10:20 PM UTC
Lol, you realise only a fairly small minority of protestants hold to calvinist notions of predestination right?
LOL, Do you realize, that thats not true? -
2016-04-10 at 10:40 PM UTC
LOL, Do you realize, that thats not true?
We get about half the protestant population between the Baptists and Lutherans. Baptists don't have specific doctrine but it should be obvious that the majority of the laity do believe in free will (either compatibilist or libertarian) just by merit of the fact that most people do. Martin Luther leaned mystic on the subject, if you want to get into the details of whether or not he personally believed in calvinist style predestination we can. But the more important point is if you ask any Lutheran theologian today if they believe in free will the answer will almost unanimously be yes, which they may follow with something along with the lines of "but that doesn't rule out predestination" but that's besides the point.
At this point you might say something like "but you can't possibly believe in predestination and free will at the same time" to which I'd respond that empirically that's false, people do, clearly. I'd give you unless you start stretching the meaning of one or the other you probably have an inconsistent pair of ideas but that's something that doesn't bother you since you supposedly believe in both an all-knowing god but reject predestination and all the hemming and hawing of Aquinas and co will never change that. Not that I expect you know the first thing about Thomistic thought or even the problem it's supposed to be addressing. -
2016-04-10 at 10:51 PM UTC
Sure the pope might slap the shit out of me, but he'd only do it because he loves me. It's called tough love. Germans wouldn't know anything about that as they are weak in character and self righteous.
RisiR does make a good point though. What do you think about the fact that you violate many of your own moral standards? You can't really think you're living up to what catholics would call being a good person. So do you think you're going to hell and just don't care or do you somehow think your lifestyle isn't enough to condemn you by Catholic standards? -
2016-04-10 at 11:26 PM UTC
RisiR does make a good point though. What do you think about the fact that you violate many of your own moral standards? You can't really think you're living up to what catholics would call being a good person. So do you think you're going to hell and just don't care or do you somehow think your lifestyle isn't enough to condemn you by Catholic standards?
What standards do I not live up to? -
2016-04-10 at 11:36 PM UTCPremarital sex and drug use are the two you bring up a lot, both of which church doctrine makes no exceptions for. I'm sure we could come up with a lot of things but those two alone would seem put you on the naughty list.
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2016-04-10 at 11:37 PM UTCAlso waiting for a response to my point about protestant ideas around predestination.
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2016-04-11 at 1:29 AM UTCWhen's the last time you've been to church and/or practiced your Catholicism?
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2016-04-11 at 1:31 AM UTC^2 weeks ago and during easter, I even got my daughter a childs catholic easter bible
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2016-04-11 at 1:33 AM UTC
Premarital sex and drug use are the two you bring up a lot, both of which church doctrine makes no exceptions for. I'm sure we could come up with a lot of things but those two alone would seem put you on the naughty list.
I've repented for my sins, and I haven't done drugs in almost a year, sure i drink often but still
if you know anything about Catholicism, we believe that we were all born sinners.
Sorry not everything fits into your tiny lil box and your tiny lil jedi cuck narrative about what catholics are. JFK was a catholic and he was an adulterer and used drugs/alcohol on a daily basis, but part of the reason why he was assassinated was because he went against the status quo and wasn't a protestant like most freemason presidents in the past have been.
dare to take the red pill fam?
Personally I think its wrong that ((((BERNIE SANDERS)))) and other politicians would even meet with the pope, because while I may be catholic I believe the separation of church and state, religion is something that's personal to you, not something to impose on others. These are my beliefs.
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2016-04-11 at 2:20 AM UTC
I've repented for my sins, and I haven't done drugs in almost a year, sure i drink often but still
You just made a thread about buying drugs and a hooker...if you know anything about Catholicism, we believe that we were all born sinners.
Lol, I don't think you know what that expression is supposed to mean. It's certainly not meant as a justification for sinning.Sorry not everything fits into your tiny lil box and your tiny lil jedi cuck narrative about what catholics are. JFK was a catholic and he was an adulterer and used drugs/alcohol on a daily basis, but part of the reason why he was assassinated was because he went against the status quo and wasn't a protestant like most freemason presidents in the past have been.
Sure JFK was a catholic, but not a great catholic. Likewise I haven't seen anyone deny that you're a catholic, we just think you're really shitty at it.
also still waiting on you to reply to the predestination thing. Next reply you make without responding to that will be an official concession of your new BTFO status. -
2016-04-11 at 2:23 AM UTCBTFO?
Anyways I told you my position on predestination. Like it or leave it lanny the tranny.
And so what sometimes I make trolls threads about hookers and drugs for satire, sorry sarcasm escapes some of you fools -
2016-04-11 at 2:30 AM UTClol 'satire'
I consider myself agnostic, though I sometimes think about reviving one of the old, dead, hardcore gods like Sekhmet (who was only stopped from destroying the world by getting her totally hammered) or Tyr (god of single-combat who lost his arm fisting a wolf's tonsils) -
2016-04-11 at 2:35 AM UTC
Anyways I told you my position on predestination. Like it or leave it lanny the tranny.
I didn't ask what your position on predestination was, I'm asking for your response to the fact that a majority of protestants actually believe in free will. Do you admit you were wrong when you said they didn't or do you have some evidence to the contrary?
inb4 Bill Krozby doesn't understand the question
inb4 Bill Krozby tries to duck the question with "you sound frothy breh" -
2016-04-11 at 2:45 AM UTC
I didn't ask what your position on predestination was, I'm asking for your response to the fact that a majority of protestants actually believe in free will. Do you admit you were wrong when you said they didn't or do you have some evidence to the contrary?
inb4 Bill Krozby doesn't understand the question
inb4 Bill Krozby tries to duck the question with "you sound frothy breh"
Most believe in predestination thats what allows them to act in such ways, sure some people slightly deviate from the orthodox view of their "religion" but most protestants heavily carry those Calvinism like entitites into their religion. You can't deny that.
And also JFK was not a bad catholic, if it wasn't for him we would be living in a fallout 1 pc world by now -
2016-04-11 at 2:47 AM UTCI think the argument is he wasn't necessarily a bad person, he just didn't adhere to the catholic tenets very well
