2023-07-28 at 10:48 AM UTC
I see a lot of people say feminism is a banker plot against white people. This is a small minded view of things.
I'm assuming they're referring to Gloria Steinem who was indeed a banker but to say this overlooks something more important. She was working for the CIA and I believe also had funding from the FBI at points.
If you're familiar with how these agencies have been undermining and discrediting left wing movements, this shouldn't seem odd.
At the time you had politicians houses being bombed, black panthers laying siege to police stations, a legitimate anti-war movement and so on. Why would it be surprising that the FBI would rather turn this into dog fuckers burning bras and wearing pussy hats? Or dick chopping, and drag queens for that matter?
If they can take the focus off of strikes, the opposition to their wars, and direct the left in the West towards harmless social issues while simultaneously pushing the working class who have children to the right why not?
I'm sure the FBI and CIA are paying some trannies and drag queens for the same reasons they did Gloria Steinem. Whether or not they're bankers is irrelevant.
2023-07-28 at 11:03 AM UTC
I mean... yeah. If you think there's any fringe political belief the glowies don't have their fingers in, you're crazy. It's not like they keep that shit confined to the left either, comrade. It's not about crushing communism to bring about some glorious golden dawn for the aryan race, that's for sure. It's about maintaining a right-of-center status quo and expanding labor supply - getting women into the workforce drove down wages. They practically doubled the labor pool overnight. It's why immigration is a thing too.
So long as your views are compatible with maximizing profits for the corporate masters, you are on side with the CIA. Killing blacks? That's 15% of the labor pool gone. No importing mexicans? Are you insane? This is why the CIA hates the fringe right more than the fringe left: it's a lot harder to redirect in-group preference against itself. You can swap out the blank in "liberate the oppressed _______" with just about anything, and the people who care the most will agree with you (so long as you can make a good enough case that they are, in fact, oppressed). They want to do good things and free people from their chains. Class, race, gender, sex - it doesn't matter, they all have the same emotional valence. It doesn't make a difference who you're liberating, so long as you're liberating: that's what makes you a good person.
Good luck convincing Bubba H. McCoy that actually all these Mexicans are great for the white race, and actually 30% of black people are smarter than 50% of white people (this one's true, but Bubba's an idiot who also works off of the emotional valence of statements, and he's gonna think you're saying something you ain't because you talk like one of them book learnin' types - he don't trust them much).
2023-07-28 at 11:06 AM UTC
i read ttile as "femdom"
ALRIGHTY THEN
2023-07-28 at 11:32 AM UTC
Like... I agree with leftists generally, in... some moral and philosophical sense. Realpolitik concerns are my primary sticking point, I guess. I agree that it's morally repugnant for society to ~arbitrarily mistreat demographics in a... deontological sense (maybe?), but from a consequentialist perspective it's a little bit muddier to me. Giving people more rights makes me feel good, not so sure what effect it'll have on the wellbeing of any hypothetical grandchildren a non-castrato me might have had. And that general feeling basically extends to every "liberate ____", including the workers. Sorry, comrade. I just want to nudge the status quo back to center, not maintain a center-right corporate hegemony that abuses the façade of social progress to prop up a slave population of billions who keep each other enslaved by merit of simply existing in the same market together. Which is what the CIA wants, what corporations want, what the leftists they've distracted want.
But I also don't want factory foremen to automatically be endowed with political authority just because 21st century communists can't get over the (admittedly rad) aesthetics born of working conditions during the dawn of the industrial revolution. I just want people to be able to have jobs that pay okay and for people to be able to vote for politicians that actually care about their concerns.
If that turns into communism eventually, so be it: I never had much faith in humanity anyway. No revolutions though.
2023-07-28 at 11:35 AM UTC
Labor unions are just corporations that sell labor, and communism is just an effort to turn those corporations into a monopoly - the Party - and have that corporation run society. It's a form of corporatocracy. It's as gross as a country being run by The United Fruit Company.
2023-07-28 at 11:57 AM UTC
Marx, the perennial midwit: "What if instead of wolves eating sheep... sheep ate the wolves?"
Good job, Karl my boy.
Problem solved.
Sheep are herbivores, and I'm sure our sheep society will look perfectly healthy after we switch to the carnivore diet - it'll no doubt fill us with a vim and vigor we've never known before, having eaten only grass. Shepherds? Yeah, you're right, anarchy-bro: no gods, no masters. Fuck the shepherds. They were actually the ones keeping us sheep eating the grass, when we could have been eating wolf meat this whole time! They say the shepherds "stop wolves" and "protect the flock", but I saw Jimbo get eaten last week and that stick-wielding Bo Peep motherfucker keeps stealing my hair. Nah. Fuck that. Fuck this.
Let's chow down on some wolf haunches.
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2023-07-28 at 4:05 PM UTC
cowboy2013, i really don't really want to insult you so i'm gonna try to address this as best as I can
1776 USA start
1860s (ish) we make all males able to vote/equal
early 1900s we allow women to vote because they equal
they sought for the equality previously leaned on their husband (voting, divorce, property ownership, business management)
and pursued independence as well as equal pay (where forever women have made less than men)
this then transferred to the same opinion to our culture, blacks still have the entitlement/reparations attitude in many cases and are assisted by affirmativfe action,
women seek the exact same thing, and when it became part of our culture we saw a collapse of the traditional family unit but that's life in the developed world where people are actually equal and free and can choose to do alternative styles of living than what was once considered regular or normal.
2023-07-28 at 4:21 PM UTC
ur a fucking sheep u buttfucking trannyshagging faggot.
2023-07-28 at 7:12 PM UTC
literally none of that sheep stuff was meant to be analogous to anything lol
i just got autistic n carried away with the repercussions of carnivorous sheep lmao
i read ttile as "femdom"
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