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  1. #1
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    What if life is... like... really, really abundant in the universe. So abundant that even sentient, sapient creatures like us are commonplace. More abundant than the most fantastical and silly sci-fi would portray. What if it only looks as though nothing exists "like us" elsewhere in the universe? Or here, for that matter. What if the limiting factor in the detection of another species and their civilization(s) (even ones in our own planet's history) is that, while intelligence is ~always an evolutionarily valuable trait to possess¹; opposable thumbs are not².

    Like... whales, man. What if whales are just... down there, appreciating the golden ratio in shells and speaking to each other about what it means for one to be a virtuous cetacean? You can't refine metal under water. You can't cook. Stuff doesn't burn, saltwater is corrosive af, and even if you somehow managed to heat something to the point it melted;⁴ water is way better at conducting heat than air. Which means you'd need way more energy. Massive disadvantage.

    What if your cat knows more than you? What if cows are sapient? They certainly have mouths, and they are screaming.³ Imagine: wolves and deer are both sapient and of ~equal intelligence, with the main disparity resulting in the current predator-prey dynamics simply being the body plans they were left with by evolution. (Which, hell, may have in turn been shaped by their intelligence! Both working hand in hand all the way, as creatures became capable of making infinitesimally incremental better use of themselves. There are probably a ton of potential beneficial traits which could have arisen randomly as a result of genetic mutation but would be bottlenecked by a creature not yet being intelligent enough to capitalize on good fortune.)

    Maybe sapient aliens really don't visit us, and maybe it's not because 'life is exceedingly rare' and 'they all die(d)' in some 'great filtеr' event, but just because they have it a lot harder than us? Maybe they're sentient orbs of fat with infrared vision who float around the ocean on another planet, staring at the stars sagely and doing hella astronomy but physically incapable of doing much else. Maybe evolution left them with both the intelligence and the physical capacity to create civilizations, but their planet and its wildlife are unimaginably more murderous than ours - ie they're struggling against a Mother Nature who is even more murderously hateful than the one who presides over the lovely charnel grounds we inhabit, their existences torturous and progress toward civilization torturously slow.

    What you fink, Star Trek? Folx?



    ¹ It confers an immense advantage, and if we assume an incremental growth it requires nothing from an organism beyond a slight increase in energy consumption.

    ² Unless you're smart enough to realize "the funny way your stubbiest digits bend" can be used to bang rocks together anyway.

    ³ You have a moral obligation to not eat meat. (⚈ ᴗ ⚈)

    ⁴ Damn. Two semi-colons? And I think I used them both right, too.
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    Didn't read
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    jerryb African Astronaut
    Did read.
  4. #4
    Donald Trump Black Hole
    I tried to read Paul Graham's latest essay the other day. I got about a page in and wasn't able to keep my focus any longer. I used to read 3 or 4 at a sitting.
  5. #5
    POLECAT POLECAT is a motherfucking ferret [my presentably immunised ammonification]
    I got to the whales
  6. #6
    AngryOnion Big Wig [the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
    I like to eat meat.
    Food is food.
  7. #7
    trippymindfuk African Astronaut
    I wouldn't necessarily call these thoughts bad or terrible. It's actually something that makes ya think. I'm just curious if these are schizophrenia induced, drug induced, or both? Not that I'm judging by any means just trying to see where you're coming from.
  8. #8
    Ghast Houston
    your formatting is terrible for example;
    ¹ It confers an immense advantage, and if we assume an incremental growth it requires nothing from an organism beyond a slight increase in energy consumption.
    ² Unless you're smart enough to realize "the funny way your stubbiest digits bend" can be used to bang rocks together anyway.
    ³ You have a moral obligation to not eat meat. (⚈ ᴗ ⚈✿)
    ⁴ Damn. Two semi-colons? And I think I used them both right, too.
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY EYES HOW CAN ANY HUMAN READ THIS THE LINNNNNNNNNEEEEEESSSS
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    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Ghast your formatting is terrible for example;
    ¹ It confers an immense advantage, and if we assume an incremental growth it requires nothing from an organism beyond a slight increase in energy consumption.
    ² Unless you're smart enough to realize "the funny way your stubbiest digits bend" can be used to bang rocks together anyway.
    ³ You have a moral obligation to not eat meat. (⚈ ᴗ ⚈✿)
    ⁴ Damn. Two semi-colons? And I think I used them both right, too.
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY EYES HOW CAN ANY HUMAN READ THIS THE LINNNNNNNNNEEEEEESSSS



  10. #10
    Bradley Black Hole
    yo bro if you want more attention just tell me and I'll download CanadianWebCalls and call you, you don't need to do this.
  11. #11
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Bradley yo bro if you want more attention just tell me and I'll download CanadianWebCalls and call you, you don't need to do this.

    idk b-rad, seems like ur the one always tryna get my attention. why else wud u keep saying things like this




    Originally posted by trippymindfuk I wouldn't necessarily call these thoughts bad or terrible. It's actually something that makes ya think. I'm just curious if these are schizophrenia induced, drug induced, or both? Not that I'm judging by any means just trying to see where you're coming from.

    It was mostly bad in the sense that it was an invasive thought I had while stoned, and it was leading me to empathizing/sympathizing with all the other animals suffering under the thumb of Mother Nature's tyranny. Being that hypothetical sapient deer getting eaten alive by a wolf would suck. Fuckkkkk, it would suck being a sapient blob of fat just chilling on an ocean too. Imagine being reincarnated like that (don't actually imagine it). Being reduced to a sapient nugget is good for the occasional kinky fantasy while you're wanking or w/e, but it'd be a terrible way to live.
  12. #12
    humbled and fumbled

    stay bad... I mean mad ahahahahaaaa
  13. #13
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    i don't wanna burn my sources, so let's just say i have received a video that will give us a very revealing view into what bradleyb is actually like in real life. ladies and gentleman (not you enbies), i present to you: BradleyB, aka B-Rad, aka Ft. Lauderdale's Most Wanted.

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  14. #14
    trippymindfuk African Astronaut
    The dopest bar of all time is "Earth is my plon-ett"
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    frala Avant garde shartist
    Whales are currently plotting a course to kill us all and take over the planet.
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  17. #17
    Originally posted by frala Whales are currently plotting a course to kill us all and take over the planet.

    That's quite a whale of a tale. What weapons do they use? Whale guns?
  18. #18
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Do you think mitosis is more spiritually akin to a cell "rejecting one half of the non-physical self" or "becoming ones own friend/partner"? Or both? I guess they aren't mutually exclusive. And I suppose you could find some other, third and forth, equally arbitrary symbolic meaning for mitosis too, so... "Or neither?", I guess. Fuck.

    Point is, which is it: embracing or rejecting? I feel like we're biased to think of it as embracing for a lot of reasons, but what if it is and that's not good. What if the perceived goodness of embracing is an illusion born at the true 'fall of man'; in which we didn't gain knowledge, but became ignorant. Everything got flipped on its head. Eating the apple. The act of embracing meiosis (embracing embracing!) over mitosis. Everything since then has been done in sin and misguided. We lost our connection with God when Eve embraced Adam, Adam's dick is the serpent (man was hung), and we've been doing all... that [gestures at religion and its consequences]... in an attempt to reconnect with a half-remembered idea of God. We never even understood our own crime, let alone had a clear picture of who was sentencing us. Every attempt to catalog the story amounts to schizo manifestation of memories from the "before" time, symbolic in ways not even an accounting's own writers understand. This one included, presumably.

  19. #19
    POLECAT POLECAT is a motherfucking ferret [my presentably immunised ammonification]
    I had to stop at the first line in the first statement, what if the universe isnt space but hundreds of other realms beyond the ice wall all with ice walls of there own and only the elites can go from one to the other.

    why have we never watched explorers go around the world from north pole across the south pole and back to the north pole???

    all the countrys have signed a treaty saying no one can go below like the 40 parallel
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  20. #20
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by POLECAT I had to stop at the first line in the first statement, what if the universe isnt space but hundreds of other realms beyond the ice wall all with ice walls of there own and only the elites can go from one to the other.

    why have we never watched explorers go around the world from north pole across the south pole and back to the north pole???

    all the countrys have signed a treaty saying no one can go below like the 40 parallel

    I mean... I certainly haven't visited Antarctica myself, so based on the empirical evidence at my disposal I'm forced to remain skeptical about whether it's a so-called 'continent' as we're told it is, or an ice wall at the bottom of a huge dome holding up the oceans of the Firmament. Hell, even if I could get to Antarctica, I probably couldn't do so without falling asleep at some point on the journey. How could I know, while sleeping for who knows how long in reality (could be 8 hours, could be 89 million years! everyone pretends it was 8 hours... but who knows..?), if we were where I'd be told we were? Maybe I was asleep for 2000 years and flown to another galaxy where a landscape like Antarctica exists. I might awaken in a plane over the ocean, but in actuality be someplace else entirely! An entirely new reality, made just to contain me! A prison! Imprisoned by God for the crime of speaking of the crime!
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