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Charles Manson was da CIA

  1. #1
    Cowboy2013 African Astronaut
    I just got done reading this book:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHAOS:_Charles_Manson,_the_CIA,_and_the_Secret_History_of_the_Sixties

    I can upload it for anybody interested. But it's basically a jumbled mess of intelligence agents/assets surrounding the Manson family.

    I think Charles Manson was admired somewhat on totse and Zoklet but knowingly or not he was working for some cointelpro shit for the CIA/FBI. The consensus is that the police knew about him for a while but were hoping he'd attack the Black Panthers.

    His probation officer/psychiatrist was connected to MK Ultra. One good thing is Sharon Tate wasn't supposed to get killed I don't think. Her father was military intelligence and she wasn't supposed to be there. Frykowski and Jay Sebring had some issues with drug dealers/CIA assets who lied about knowing Charles Manson. They hung around Cass Elliott. Some spook named Reeve Whitson went there with Manson after the murders and was whining about how he could have saved Sharon Tate.

    LAPD and LASD had a lot of psychopaths back then who simultaneously worked for the CIA in Vietnam. All this stuff probably still goes on.
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    Cowboy2013 African Astronaut
    Oh and something weird was going on with Terry Melcher and Doris Day too.

    He claimed he only met Manson 3 times all before the murders but two people wrote statements saying they saw him afterwards crying and begging Manson for something.

    And Doris Day and Terry Melchers lawyer also happened to be a judge before that who let Manson off of a parole violation a year before the murders ๐Ÿคจ

    I'm curious if anyone else wants to try to make sense of this. Sharon Tate didn't really like Abigail Folger or Frykowski either.

    I also saw a video of Danny Trejo also claiming Charles Manson hypnotized him in prison.

    A lot of this seems to have something to do with Doris Day and Terry Melcher though.
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  3. #3
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Cowboy2013 I just got done reading this book:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHAOS:_Charles_Manson,_the_CIA,_and_the_Secret_History_of_the_Sixties

    I can upload it for anybody interested. But it's basically a jumbled mess of intelligence agents/assets surrounding the Manson family.

    I think Charles Manson was admired somewhat on totse and Zoklet but knowingly or not he was working for some cointelpro shit for the CIA/FBI. The consensus is that the police knew about him for a while but were hoping he'd attack the Black Panthers.

    His probation officer/psychiatrist was connected to MK Ultra. One good thing is Sharon Tate wasn't supposed to get killed I don't think. Her father was military intelligence and she wasn't supposed to be there. Frykowski and Jay Sebring had some issues with drug dealers/CIA assets who lied about knowing Charles Manson. They hung around Cass Elliott. Some spook named Reeve Whitson went there with Manson after the murders and was whining about how he could have saved Sharon Tate.

    LAPD and LASD had a lot of psychopaths back then who simultaneously worked for the CIA in Vietnam. All this stuff probably still goes on.

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    I'm glad you guys are able to bond over this ๐Ÿ˜
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  5. #5
    Cowboy2013 African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Pete Green

    So whatchu think?
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    Pete Green African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Cowboy2013 Oh and something weird was going on with Terry Melcher and Doris Day too.

    He claimed he only met Manson 3 times all before the murders but two people wrote statements saying they saw him afterwards crying and begging Manson for something.

    And Doris Day and Terry Melchers lawyer also happened to be a judge before that who let Manson off of a parole violation a year before the murders ๐Ÿคจ

    I'm curious if anyone else wants to try to make sense of this. Sharon Tate didn't really like Abigail Folger or Frykowski either.

    I also saw a video of Danny Trejo also claiming Charles Manson hypnotized him in prison.

    A lot of this seems to have something to do with Doris Day and Terry Melcher though.

    I wrote a thread somewhere on this

    Michael Aquino was LtC at local SF Army Base who worked with the CIA and battlefield psychology.
    Charlie Mason's own Parole Officer joined his group while supplying him LSD. this has been released in the Vault 7 archives

    Terry Melcher was who Charlie was looking for but it just happened that Sharon and Roman rented from Terry (or sub leased) the house. "Experts" state its just a weird Synchronicity since Roman and Terry worked in the Hollywood scene of music and films. and that Terry's mom was a major film star in Old vs New Hollywood.
    so regardless of the coincidence its really because of the business that made it more than coincidental and nothing to do with a conspiracy theory". but we know thats bullshit

    Beatles John and Paul both rented an apartment at the Dakota before John even met Yoko Ono
    2: Yoko and John then purchased the apartment that John and Paul had rented for some time prior to the film Rosemary's baby, on the 6th floor and then bought the apt above to make a 2 story 6th and 7th floor townhouse over a flat. I dont know if this is true but I believe I read that Yoko and John did live on the 7th floor

    3: Roman Polanski just finished up Rosemary's Baby and was in Poland during the next film

    4: Dear Prudence was named after the sister of Rosemary's Baby Actress Mia Ferrell (Prudence Farrell) and both Helter Skelter and Dear Prudence are on the white album.

    5: Charlie Manson went looking for Terry on his own at the house that Terry rented after feeling threatened by Charlie and his friends that He and singer Bryan Wilson (Beach Boys) had to ask to leave. Charlie stated Terry stole his music and wanted revenge. Charlie actually wasn't half bad as a musician and Terry saw this but Terry freaked out when Charlie got violent with someone arguing with Terry. Charlie was trying to Protect Terry but went about it Prison Rule style. this didn't float in Hollywood at the time because people depend on one another.

    6: the movie actually used Church of Satan's leader Anton LeVay as an advice on how Satanic rituals are held. it's also strange that one of the neighbors name was Roman Castevet played by Sydney Blackmer had almost the same last name as the real life actor John Cassevett who plays Guy Woodhouse and husband of Rosemary's or Mia Ferrow. It's also no coincidence that the Character Roman Castevet looks like an older LtC Michael Aquino. Eyebrows and all (Triangular)


    The Beatles were involved in Satanic shit as much of Hollywood was into. and to be honest. San Francisco is the hub of not just Technology but Occults and alternative religions. way before the 1960s. the beat generation before that. the 1920s bohemian generation before that. the Bohemian Grove and rich cats who invite poor artists to join them every other year up in Monte Rio

    I didn't need Alex Jones to tell me about my own fucking backyard. He's a shill too
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  7. #7
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Cowboy2013 So whatchu think?

    Literally bought it for my girlfriend who got spooked. I have a hard time reading more than 3 pages and remembering. I need the audio book of it.

    so she put it down after about 10 pages. shits spooky I guess.
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  8. #8
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    Frala's buddy "ToiletDuk" and boyfriend/friend/maybe father of child of Lostcause, and his magical fore-site into 9/11 but blames 1993 film "Smash Brothers" which also was in production when the 1993 explosion took place at WTC and was delayed release because of the sensitive matter of Predictive Programming nature. just "Synchronicity" as usual. She I geuss was hanging out with Cartoon Violence up in Portland Oregon. saw the photos and have them documented so there is no reason to bullshit that one like Jeff Hunter hanging out with MetaPhys

    but both buildings? hmmm. also his 2 posts under an alt user name which both were posted (one at Somethingaweful) in September 1st 2001 and locked by the Admin related to this gif file (this is a jpg still of the gif)

  9. #9
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    Im working with an attorney (on a book who is also a writer himself) right now.

    he's really interested in this story. He's suggesting we have to wait until Biden is out of office but will push for the release if he happens to do another term.

    Clearly for reasons that Clinton/Bush(fake Republican), Obama and Biden are all in on treason and committing illegal acts under the "Patriot Act" which was already deemed Illegal by a Supreme Court Justice.

    especially of how everything was orchestrated and under Bush the FBI raided Jeff Hunter's TOTSE forum and removed much of the material at his home in the bay area of the pre-warning and threat of highjacking planes and then altered by the people at Archive.org later on after they took control of waybackmachine. its funny because the waybackmachine existed pre oct of 2001 which they are now claiming is the start date but is total bullshit. they were purchased out by Archive.org who removed pages on it's platform. and now as a convenient cloud story "Archive.org is being sued for copyright infringement" and is ordered to cease and desist.

    the entire 4 years Trump was in office all of the gas-lighting and harassing of me had ended but once Biden took office it's now starting all over again. they're trying to coverup their involvement in 9/11 and how much corruption has full power for at least the last 25 years. its always existed but never on a level like this.

    This guy makes me laugh at how obvious this is.

    Joined a year prior. never made One posts. the only post he makes says the exact thing that did happen.

    "They didn't see any "Fly planes into buildings" so why take Bad Ideas off this site.

  10. #10
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    Obama's CTO for his "HOPE" campaign and I picked this guy up at eBay HQ just across from PayPal and Google.



    scroll down (never gets old)

  11. #11
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    I was driving uber in the area and he was just saying stuff under his lip (harper reed was) and got out of my car and slammed my door. it's almost too surreal that I get the interesting people either on purpose by them waiting for me in the area or I get routed into an area by a special force of people.

    even got the new Iranian Boss (Dara Khosrowshahi ) for Uber when he was hired after Travis left. asked me how he could help improve things. Picked the dude up in Oakland Airport and also Picked his mom up a week later in Kensington (a rich neighborhood of Berkeley) (or she told me she was his Mom. would of been weird. drove her to Oakland Airport as well. )

    just too obvious but I love rolling with it. my attitude is like "OK where is this going to lead to". I'v had people fuck up and call me and say something they wouldn't have known about when prepping me for arrival. or say shit in the car and their traveling companion bump them like "WTF.. YOU FUCKED UP" but that could be apart of the act too.

    gaslighting was always interesting.

    I dont drive for uber anymore so I don't mind discussing it now.
  12. #12
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    Here is another one, Sonny boy.

    Chesa Boudin

    Former D.A. of San Francisco letting out murderers and shit.

    He got recalled and fired and now Berkeley (Cal) hired him to run a class over there (or legal department) not really sure. but he works for Cal Berkeley now.

    He was named after Che Guevara which Che was a big influence for some weird reason on &TOTSE

    the poster of Che was used as insperation of the poster for the Hope Campaign and you can clearly see it.




    TOTSE FOREVER

    COMMIE FOREVER


    Boudine Father is David Gilbert. the Third round of Weather Underground Organization members released by a politician

    Cuomo Gov of NY released David Gilmore.

    and clearly Harper Reed was influenced by this group.
    Berkeley is a Communist Haven as is Chicago and New Orleans as well as part of NYC.

  13. #13
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    FBI is hand picked. Ted Gunderson warned of this. Ted Gunderson also was investigating Totse and My Dog Bit Jesus as well as other Nirvana Net BBS

    so thats a lot of coincidences not to have some kind of involvement.
    and Bill Ayer is friends with Obama. Bill Ayers raised D.A. Boudine while his Mom and Dad were in prison before Clinton released his Mother and her buddy Susan Rosenburg who is raising money for BLM and using the money to go to the Hilary Clinton Campaign then Biden when he took the lead.

    Obama didn't Pardon WUO but he pardoned a FALN member which was an arm of WUO

    Bill Ayer and his wife raised D.A. Boudin and has strong communist ties. also they were apart of the "Occupy Wallstreet" movement. Sep 17 2011 just 10 years and a week after 9/11

    but there is evidence that there was earlier versions of Occupy Wallstreet.
  14. #14
    Cowboy2013 African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Pete Green Literally bought it for my girlfriend who got spooked. I have a hard time reading more than 3 pages and remembering. I need the audio book of it.

    so she put it down after about 10 pages. shits spooky I guess.

    The book doesn't mention Satanists but other books I read about Manson did and Bouseliel (sp?) I know was in some film for Anton Lavey. And I know that is all tied in with the CIA/Mind control.

    But the guy the book mentions is Jolly West. He was partners with his parole officer Gregg Smith and David Smith at the free clinic and also interviewed Jack Ruby

    But as far as him looking for Terry Melcher, he knew where Terry Melcher was living at the time because they supposedly broke into his house. And Terry melcher also lived at that house with Dean Moorhouse, Ruths father which was completely lied about too. That's something else it gets into.
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    whoa whoa whoa hodl on just one minute there WOZNY ! your story isn't adding up at all

    lets examine the facts shall we

    my name is paul wozny aka totse2k1 and I molest children!
    Fuck you paul wozny you fake mentally ill for attention calling the police on people you accuse of working for the police which every retard schizo does except for you it's half fake, half real in the most unfunny lame annoying way possible and you should kill yourself or quit the forum for months or years or possibly the rest of your miserable life you pathetic fake-schizo police faggot

    you are just trying to get banned like you did on sept 11, 2001


    Originally posted by BeigeWarlock So I then Joined under a new user-name around Jan-Feb 2001.

    I want to say the month was March, but other older documents showed I stated May (or may was when I first came across the thread written) in which what appeared to be a group claiming they were going to highjack planes and crash them into the WTC buildings and into the Pentagon as well as the White House and Capital buildings.

    Originally posted by BeigeWarlock 1badAideas.jpg




    Originally posted by BeigeWarlock I found this one odd thread page from archive.org of a person name James1rob saying "WE WANT BAD IDEAS" (which I believe was a forum) on September 16th 2001, with a followup from MS3FGX saying "Yeah! First you blocked the porn, Now you took away the biggest part of TOTSE.. goes onto say "I know this is serious times and all but what does any of this have to do with totse.. They didn't see any "Fly planes into building" Files on this site. So why take "Bad Ideas" off? but the post shows a person who joined Dec 2000 and only made this very one post. a post count of 1 in about a years active account status. it seems very staged. If it had been made the day after 9/11 it would of seemed less suspicious because it would be an anonymous looking person wanting to know why. but instead it's an establish user who decides to speak up. the accounts, their information and other things can be manipulated by these people. they're very good at coding, faking addresses and such.

    Please refer to the files "1BadIdeas.jpg" and 1bBadIdeas.jpg. shows the post made. the mario (mario marior video game character) is a layer and not apart of the original page. it related to a user by the name of Toiletduk who also Im told went by bloodydiaperman. Also look at photo 1SomethingAweful which while doing a search for "Toiletduk" i found this page on google search and copy-prnt it. look at the date it was posted and locked as a thread. it has a link to a mario cartoon which was the same as this 1bBadIdeas but as a flash animation. of Mario jumping on a TNT plunger and blowing up the WTC.
    This is where it gets weird. the original was made by the year 1999. that was its creation date. yet, why is this person suddenly posting it again in September 1st 2001 and why was the thread locked?

    Originally posted by BeigeWarlock I was taking vicodin 7.5/350 the night of september 10th.

    lol

    Originally posted by BeigeWarlock On September 11th, around 7:15 in the morning, My (then) Wife called me. Though I didn't know it was her at first, I was still sleeping in and the phone rang and rang. My 2 children of age 2 and 4 were still sleeping as well. I normally got them up at 7am.

    The phone rang and rang, I was very groggy from the vicodin and suddenly I woke on the third or forth round of the phone ringing incessantly each time. I ran to the phone and no one was there on the first attempt to pick it up. It rang again and I picked it up. My wife was on the phone, crying. I said what is wrong. She said "Turn on the TV". I said, why were you in an accident. She stated no. I was turning on the TV which was still a CRT type, warming up to turn on. and just then the TV came on. Showing Live.. with both WTC burning. She said "The buildings collapsed". I said, No they're still standing . It says live (which normally it would say "earlier broadcast"). She said "No trust me.. they fell. My Boss Jennifer from NYC told us to close down the hotel (She was working in, owned by the Marriott) and that they may attack other cities.. especially San Francisco and LA.

    I told her to do what Jennifer had told her to and get home.

    I immediatly logged onto totse.com because of what had happened and the post made regarding the attack. the person Enigma (Jeff Hunter) who runs the website had a way of popping up in a window to speak to you in person. As I was PM'ing him (private message) he popped up. He used to use this bot chat feature to test people with his AI-bot that he used to see how fast it would take someone to figure out if it was human or not, while he watched. So I was familure with the chat box. I asked "Jeff is that you" and he said it was. something about "Please don't bother me about this. Or I will kick your ass off the website".



    This was all posted after september 11th, sounds more like you had a schizo meltdown when those planes hit which caused you to not only lose your wife and kids at the time but also get banned from TOTSE and fired from your job all on the same day and you have somehow over the years merged these together into one grand theory.

    You literally were shit posting high on vicodin on totse on september 2001 and blaming people on that website for the september 11th attack which probably pissed everyone off being accused of being involved in an attack on their country YOU ARE ALL IN ON IT!!!!! so they banned your ass. And now you do the exact same thing to us accusing us of every crime under the sun but Lanny isn't a faggot like Jeff so you don't get banned, fuck you.

    Originally posted by BeigeWarlock these went out to the Whitehouse and to the NYC/NJ Port Authority as of this week.

    How much did you get paid for that? I have done some high quality research tonight and believe I deserve to be compensated for proving your theories all wrong. Please let your handlers know, thanks.

    Originally posted by BeigeWarlock the thing I found unusual about this thread was they used (perhaps) a UBB code to highlight the background with an illuminating forground text. sort of a glowing white text with blueish hue over a background of dark grey (rather than the white-blue theme.)


    Originally posted by Murk Lore Wow you're theories are all over the fucking place.

    no they aren't

    Originally posted by Ghost I joined and it was only "lukr more" on cam mid sentence, he told me to stay and answer some questions.

    I asked if it was an interrogation and he said yes and then flashed me his badge, I was only able to get a quick screen grab

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    you completely left out the part about ratface, aldra being an FBI agent gangstalking you on 4chan, you murdering Bill Krozby by planting cp on his computer

    you didn't even mention lanny or fralala. What the hell?

    This is clearly about Canada, don't forget to mention Canada and the DGD nutters and the masket faggot ad dark sophie and the pluralverse STOP LEAVING OUT THE IMPORTANT FACTYS, PAUIL
  17. #17
    THis has nothing to do with Obama or Biden and everything to do with Aldra, clearly. You fucking aussie child molesting pioece of shit paul wozny is onto you!!!
  18. #18
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Cowboy2013 The book doesn't mention Satanists but other books I read about Manson did and Bouseliel (sp?) I know was in some film for Anton Lavey. And I know that is all tied in with the CIA/Mind control.

    But the guy the book mentions is Jolly West. He was partners with his parole officer Gregg Smith and David Smith at the free clinic and also interviewed Jack Ruby

    But as far as him looking for Terry Melcher, he knew where Terry Melcher was living at the time because they supposedly broke into his house. And Terry melcher also lived at that house with Dean Moorhouse, Ruths father which was completely lied about too. That's something else it gets into.

    I wasn't saying the book did but I was pointing out Michael Aquino was LeVay's good friend and then broke off from the Church of Satan and formed SETian group. which has spread all over the world now.

    There is an interesting location in San Francisco not far from the Army Base now decommisioned (presedieo)

    thats why I went that direction. Hollywood is pretty fucked up.

    here is another movie in which LeVay was asked to give assistance. and it includes our buddy Captain James T Kirk (William Shatner in which had replaced Actor Jeffry Hunter in Star Trek) thats just coincidence.. prolly

    it might be the film you're speaking of

    The Devil's Rain is a 1975 supernatural horror film directed by Robert Fuest. The ensemble cast includes William Shatner, Tom Skerritt, Ernest Borgnine, Eddie Albert, Ida Lupino, and Keenan Wynn. Additionally, John Travolta made his film debut in a minor role.


    The Devil's Rain was so cursed during filming that all kinds of fucked up shit started happening on set.

    Lavey and Aquino both assisted on this film Devils Rain and Levay with Rosemary's Baby.
    I met Aquino back in 1985-86 at a halloween/dia de los muertos party with all kinds of interesting guest showing up.
    marina abramovic showed up with her friend. she left right away. It was the first time I heard of a Spirit "Feast" (Cooking) but she had stopped by and some french friend of hers ended up giving my brother crabs that night.

    us laughing about it the following week
  19. #19
    Pete Green African Astronaut
    free association isn't real here. its sarcasm. not free association
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