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2016-03-01 at 2:46 PM UTCThread soundtrack:
I held off on taking a c++ class for a long time because I had no experience and the advice I got from the school counselors was "Well, you might be able to pass with a C if you are really intelligent, but it will be very difficult..." and people who had taken it told me I would be getting slayed the whole time with 20+ hour projects every day and shit. But now I'm in my 7th week of the course and it's so fucking easy that being in class just pisses me off.
It's full of kids who want to be computer hackers but can't even grasp the concept of a nested function, and these community college nerds that can't do anything right. There's some annoying bitch that was talking shit the first two weeks of class about how she knows like 10+ different programming languages and stays up all night programming all the time and shit but she's already struggling and behind.
I've finished all my weekly projects within 2 days of them being assigned with 3-5 hours of working on them (and reading/learning the material at the same time) while everyone else is struggling to barely make the due dates and spending 10+ hours.
I know it probably sounds like I'm trying to brag but I'm really not. I barely know shit about computers and have done hella drugs in my life but somehow I can still do better than most of these computer nerds, and I just don't see how that's possible. I just think people are faggots that see someone who can do something better than them and want to talk shit because they're insecure about their own abilities to learn and do new things, or bitter about the fact that they couldn't learn math and ended up being a college counselor. So the moral of the story is never listen to these faggots because the truth is that most people are just mad that they suck at life.
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2016-03-01 at 2:59 PM UTCyeah, majority of people in IT at any level, ie employment, uni etc are all more concerned about sounding like they're doing over actually knowing what they're doing
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2016-03-01 at 3:18 PM UTC^this , I've met with many IT people my age that are complete ditz's , that girl I posted about a few weeks back Is IT and she is dumber than a box of rocks, I even baited her into saying that she's a leet hacker. She even tried to talk to me about metal music and I let her off easy she said she has extensive knowledge yet doesn't know any modern bands or anything about the lineage of metal from the old skool days. She said her favorite band was at the gates...
its basically like rush but slightly more metallic sounding
I understand you like what you like, but I hate when people try to talk to me about something they have no grasp of
My father was a computer programmer and is now retired, but he's far from a faggot, he had his own sub-contracted company for a while from AMD, I think it's just mainly new people that come into the field that are like that, I'm sure he was a noob when he first started out at texas instruments, but the time that was a completely new industry.
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2016-03-01 at 4:47 PM UTC
My father was a computer programmer and is now retired, but he's far from a faggot
With the way you turned out i think we can safely say this statement is objectively false.
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2016-03-01 at 4:58 PM UTC>people in STEM fields
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2016-03-01 at 5:18 PM UTCThink I've posted about this at greater length before but yeah, CS curricula have been throughly victimized by cheap VC money and Steve Jobs wannabes since the first bubble.
It's not a popular opinion but I think there's something to be said for innate aptitude, if not in true CS at least in programming. There's a famous paper on the subject but admittedly it's mostly alignment with my experience (see: pet theory) that incline me to believe it. Ever wringing their hands over the looming specter of homogeneity administrators have, by and large, decided washout courses discourage diversity and so we string along poor helpless schmucks for four to six years so they can graduate and limp through a mediocre career, produce their 100k lines of terrible code, and take an early retirement because there's so much shitty code in the world that employees suffer an mirror illusion that the solution to a lot of bad code is more bad programmers. -
2016-03-01 at 5:21 PM UTC
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I held off on taking a c++ class for a long time because I had no experience and the advice I got from the school counselors was "Well, you might be able to pass with a C if you are really intelligent, but it will be very difficult…" and people who had taken it told me I would be getting slayed the whole time with 20+ hour projects every day and shit. But now I'm in my 7th week of the course and it's so fucking easy that being in class just pisses me off.
It's full of kids who want to be computer hackers but can't even grasp the concept of a nested function, and these community college nerds that can't do anything right. There's some annoying bitch that was talking shit the first two weeks of class about how she knows like 10+ different programming languages and stays up all night programming all the time and shit but she's already struggling and behind.
I've finished all my weekly projects within 2 days of them being assigned with 3-5 hours of working on them (and reading/learning the material at the same time) while everyone else is struggling to barely make the due dates and spending 10+ hours.
I know it probably sounds like I'm trying to brag but I'm really not. I barely know shit about computers and have done hella drugs in my life but somehow I can still do better than most of these computer nerds, and I just don't see how that's possible. I just think people are faggots that see someone who can do something better than them and want to talk shit because they're insecure about their own abilities to learn and do new things, or bitter about the fact that they couldn't learn math and ended up being a college counselor. So the moral of the story is never listen to these faggots because the truth is that most people are just mad that they suck at life.
I logged in just to thank.
This is one of my biggest gripes about college (and it's not just computer programming). It's basically the entire institution. The reality is that having a college degree is needed to do basic service jobs like being a McDonald's manager, so everybody goes. Not to sound like ol' -Spectral here but, if you have the spirit of totse, you're always independently learning, reading, and challenging yourself anyway. You've got to remember, for a lot of these kids showing up at school, this is the first time they're actually really reading material that they have to put forth effort to understand.
When you think about it, it's kind of hilarious that so many of us as fifteen year old kids had better study skills than many "adult" college students. What's even more funny is that society is so busy enshrining mediocrity and turning most jobs/schools into adult daycare centers that we wouldn't stand out. "Oh, so you're an independent reader who thoroughly taught yourself abstract concepts of organic chemistry on the internet when you were 15? Well, there's another candidate who sat (drank and struggled with mediocre grades) through a whole four years at a more expensive school (that she got into because she went to a nicer high school than you did). She also had an internship (where she basically fucked up the small amount of responsibility she was given for a few months), so she has more 'experience' than you, too (even though that's the closest thing she's ever had to a real job and is still not even her own person yet in her mid twenties) . I'm afraid she's a more competitive candidate at the 'job that requires independent motivation to teach yourself without being spoonfed' factory. "
I was sitting at work the other month listening to my supervisor go through resumes to pick who she wanted to hire. Please note, we've gone through like 13 people in the last six months, so her track record is pretty fucking shitty. In fact, I almost wasn't hired, but I begged for my job and they hired both candidates (the other one left after around 30 days because she was like eight months pregnant).
Anyway, listening to her was just cringey. It was awful. These guys have no idea what the fuck to look for. There was one prospective employee who was consistently employed for like 6 years, but she kept each job for a year because she moved a lot. The boss starts bleating, "WELL, THAT SAYS TO ME THAT SHE CAN'T KEEP A JOB. WHY WOULD SHE SWITCH SO OFTEN?!"
Really. That's what that says to you? In a job where we can barely keep people for a fucking month because you hire stoned college kids all the time, you're going to turn somebody down because she only stays at places for about a year (with no gaps in employment history)?
But that's the point, isn't it? This person sat through fucking college, didn't learn a goddamn thing, and wound up walking into a better job than you probably ever will because she went to such a nice school. Nevermind the fact that she doesn't know what she's doing and cost the company more money than god by hiring 13 walk outs in six months. Hello, that's over two people a month! "THAT SAYS TO ME" that she does not understand anything about people at all, and will continue to fucking fail at your job, and will continue to pass the blame to other people.
tl;dr - Sorry if that was ranty, but I guess my point is that it isn't a meritocracy, and you'd better get used to these people who don't know shit one day being in charge of you even though you're probably way more competent. -
2016-03-01 at 5:28 PM UTCsomething something silicon valley
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2016-03-01 at 5:58 PM UTC
I logged in just to thank.
This is one of my biggest gripes about college (and it's not just computer programming). It's basically the entire institution. The reality is that having a college degree is needed to do basic service jobs like being a McDonald's manager, so everybody goes. Not to sound like ol' -Spectral here but, if you have the spirit of totse, you're always independently learning, reading, and challenging yourself anyway. You've got to remember, for a lot of these kids showing up at school, this is the first time they're actually really reading material that they have to put forth effort to understand.
When you think about it, it's kind of hilarious that so many of us as fifteen year old kids had better study skills than many "adult" college students. What's even more funny is that society is so busy enshrining mediocrity and turning most jobs/schools into adult daycare centers that we wouldn't stand out. "Oh, so you're an independent reader who thoroughly taught yourself abstract concepts of organic chemistry on the internet when you were 15? Well, there's another candidate who sat (drank and struggled with mediocre grades) through a whole four years at a more expensive school (that she got into because she went to a nicer high school than you did). She also had an internship (where she basically fucked up the small amount of responsibility she was given for a few months), so she has more 'experience' than you, too (even though that's the closest thing she's ever had to a real job and is still not even her own person yet in her mid twenties) . I'm afraid she's a more competitive candidate at the 'job that requires independent motivation to teach yourself without being spoonfed' factory. "
I was sitting at work the other month listening to my supervisor go through resumes to pick who she wanted to hire. Please note, we've gone through like 13 people in the last six months, so her track record is pretty fucking shitty. In fact, I almost wasn't hired, but I begged for my job and they hired both candidates (the other one left after around 30 days because she was like eight months pregnant).
Anyway, listening to her was just cringey. It was awful. These guys have no idea what the fuck to look for. There was one prospective employee who was consistently employed for like 6 years, but she kept each job for a year because she moved a lot. The boss starts bleating, "WELL, THAT SAYS TO ME THAT SHE CAN'T KEEP A JOB. WHY WOULD SHE SWITCH SO OFTEN?!"
Really. That's what that says to you? In a job where we can barely keep people for a fucking month because you hire stoned college kids all the time, you're going to turn somebody down because she only stays at places for about a year (with no gaps in employment history)?
But that's the point, isn't it? This person sat through fucking college, didn't learn a goddamn thing, and wound up walking into a better job than you probably ever will because she went to such a nice school. Nevermind the fact that she doesn't know what she's doing and cost the company more money than god by hiring 13 walk outs in six months. Hello, that's over two people a month! "THAT SAYS TO ME" that she does not understand anything about people at all, and will continue to fucking fail at your job, and will continue to pass the blame to other people.
tl;dr - Sorry if that was ranty, but I guess my point is that it isn't a meritocracy, and you'd better get used to these people who don't know shit one day being in charge of you even though you're probably way more competent.
The American educational system sounds pathetic. In fact your whole shitty country sounds pathetic. Actually, i retract that statement, your whole shitty country is pathetic. God, i can't wait for the day the Fed prints the dollar into oblivion and everything comes tunbling down, even though europe and the rest of the world is going down with it, i'll laugh as we pass over the edge of the cliff. -
2016-03-01 at 7:31 PM UTCMost people consider programming ability to be some kind of cult status symbol, so you have a lot of posers talking about how 1337 they are with nothing of substance to back it up. Compsci undergrad courses are full of them.
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2016-03-01 at 7:32 PM UTCtriangles t01 k\/lt
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2016-03-02 at 1:51 AM UTC
The American educational system sounds pathetic. In fact your whole shitty country sounds pathetic. Actually, i retract that statement, your whole shitty country is pathetic. God, i can't wait for the day the Fed prints the dollar into oblivion and everything comes tunbling down, even though europe and the rest of the world is going down with it, i'll laugh as we pass over the edge of the cliff.
There are some things that are great about America - just very few of them. Things are also getting worse. -
2016-03-02 at 2:05 AM UTC
The American educational system sounds pathetic. In fact your whole shitty country sounds pathetic. Actually, i retract that statement, your whole shitty country is pathetic. God, i can't wait for the day the Fed prints the dollar into oblivion and everything comes tunbling down, even though europe and the rest of the world is going down with it, i'll laugh as we pass over the edge of the cliff.
What education system and country isn't pathetic? They're simply pathetic in different ways. -
2016-03-02 at 2:54 AM UTCReal niggas start off with BASIC and binary
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2016-03-02 at 10:46 PM UTC
Real niggas start off with BASIC and binary
COBOL and asm tho.
