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Kia and Hyundai to pay compensation in US for making cars that are too easy to steal
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2023-05-20 at 2:34 PM UTC
Hyundai and Kia will pay out $200 million in a class-action lawsuit settlement, compensating roughly 9 million people for their losses after a 2022 social media trend revealed how relatively simple it was to steal certain models. From a report:
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/23/05/19/1934229/kia-and-hyundai-agree-to-200-million-settlement-for-making-cars-viral-theft-targets
As reported by Reuters, $145 million of the payout goes to the out-of-pocket expenses of those whose cars were stolen. Many Kias made between 2011-2021, and Hyundais from 2015-2021, lacked electronic engine immobilizers, which would prevent a car from starting unless an electronically matched key was present. Without the immobilizer, the car could be started by turning the ignition with other objects, such as a USB-A cable that thieves discovered was a perfect fit.
Customers whose cars were totaled are eligible for up to $6,125, while damaged vehicles and property can receive a maximum of $3,375, along with costs for raised insurance, car rental, towing, tickets, and others. Kia and Hyundai had previously pledged to provide free software upgrades to vehicles and free wheel locks (i.e. The Club), typically in coordination with regional police departments. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in February that the companies have given out 26,000 wheel locks since November 2022. A September 2022 report by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) showed that immobilizers were standard on 96 percent of cars sold in the US by 2015 but only 26 percent of Kias and Hyundais. Cars with immobilizers were stolen at a rate of 1.21 per 1,000 insured vehicles, according to the IIHS; those without immobilizers had a 2.18 per 1,000 rate. Kia and Hyundai's far-too-thrifty design decisions might have been simply a balance sheet story were it not for the "Kia Challenge," a 2022 TikTok trend that detailed theft techniques and joyrides. By February 2023, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration attributed 14 crashes and eight deaths to challenge-inspired thefts.
The problem is that there is no immobiliser, so all you need to do is turn the switch behind the lock cylinder. The USB plug just happens to fit on that switch nicely. -
2023-05-20 at 3:08 PM UTCpeople should start making the lockpickinglawyer video viral and the people can start suing lock companies for not fixing their many vulns.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2023-05-23 at 3:01 PM UTCIt's pretty shocking that in this day and age car companies don't have immobilizers or kill switches as standard. I used to put my own kill switches on my motorcycles back in the 80s, 90s...just a simple switch hidden under the seat.
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2023-05-24 at 1:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson It's pretty shocking that in this day and age car companies don't have immobilizers or kill switches as standard. I used to put my own kill switches on my motorcycles back in the 80s, 90s…just a simple switch hidden under the seat.
thats not a "kill" switch.
its a secondary switch.
to kill an engine you first need it to be alive and running.
a switch can only be called a kill switch if it switches off a running engine. -
2023-05-24 at 1:57 AM UTCenglish failure - severe
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2023-05-24 at 4:44 AM UTCI have a fuel pump power cutoff clip i can take with me if i park where niggers live its sweet
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2023-05-24 at 6:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by cigreting I have a fuel pump power cutoff clip i can take with me if i park where niggers live its sweet
that gives them enough fuel to move it out of the parking lot and stall somewhere near.
inconvenient.
just wire the airbag with recalled inflater that send aluminum into their negroid skull. -
2023-05-24 at 7:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson It's pretty shocking that in this day and age car companies don't have immobilizers or kill switches as standard. I used to put my own kill switches on my motorcycles back in the 80s, 90s…just a simple switch hidden under the seat.
my dad used to hide them under the ashtrays
they'll unironically start selling them as subscription services in the next few years, if they aren't already -
2023-05-24 at 12:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny thats not a "kill" switch.
its a secondary switch.
to kill an engine you first need it to be alive and running.
a switch can only be called a kill switch if it switches off a running engine.
You're so desperate and dumb Vincent.
"Where is the best place to put a kill switch?
How to Install a Kill Switch On Any Car
For the kill switch to be fully effective, it must remain hidden and limited to your knowledge only. Placing it under the dash would make it rather easy to find, so this is where you can get creative when placing your switch." -
2023-05-24 at 3:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny that gives them enough fuel to move it out of the parking lot and stall somewhere near.
inconvenient.
just wire the airbag with recalled inflater that send aluminum into their negroid skull.
No it cuts power to the fuel pump. It wont prime when the key is turned to the start position. No fuel = no start.
Ill learn you more about auto mechanics if you listen closely jackie chan -
2023-05-24 at 3:57 PM UTC
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2023-05-24 at 3:58 PM UTC
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2023-05-24 at 5:04 PM UTCVinny...once again context, there is the kill switch you are referring to...and there is the kill switch I am referring to...both exist...you go to a mechanic and ask him to install an anti theft kill switch in your vehicle and he'll know exactly what you need.
You'll learn there is always more than 1 anwser kid.
SMH
Just a few examples:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=remote+ignition+kill+switch&hvadid=593792836019&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9027655&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=14073749686945499128&hvtargid=kwd-304707695243&hydadcr=2649_9913396&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_4s49dem6o_b
Dumbo Daniels from Chingchongia strikes again
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2023-05-24 at 10:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Vinny…once again context, there is the kill switch you are referring to…and there is the kill switch I am referring to…both exist…you go to a mechanic and ask him to install an anti theft kill switch in your vehicle and he'll know exactly what you need.
You'll learn there is always more than 1 anwser kid.
SMH
Just a few examples:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=remote+ignition+kill+switch&hvadid=593792836019&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9027655&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=14073749686945499128&hvtargid=kwd-304707695243&hydadcr=2649_9913396&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_4s49dem6o_b
Dumbo Daniels from Chingchongia strikes again
the, switch, that, doesnt, kill, a, live, engine, cant, be, called, a, kill, switch, since, it, doesnt, kill, anything,
this level of english failure should be illegal. -
2023-05-25 at 1:35 AM UTC
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2023-05-25 at 12:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny
the, switch, that, doesnt, kill, a, live, engine, cant, be, called, a, kill, switch, since, it, doesnt, kill, anything,
this level of english failure should be illegal.
Take it up with the THOUSANDS of examples I linked for you.
Dumb Asian
If a manufacturer choose to call their product a "kill switch" then that's what it is...it's a name of a product, not an act...duh. -
2023-05-25 at 3:51 PM UTC
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2023-05-25 at 3:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Take it up with the THOUSANDS of examples I linked for you.
Dumb Asian
If a manufacturer choose to call their product a "kill switch" then that's what it is…it's a name of a product, not an act…duh.
we are not talking about that the manufacturers and the public are calling immobilizers on their cars.
we are talking about what you call your little switch between your legs, on your moped. -
2023-05-25 at 6:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson It's pretty shocking that in this day and age car companies don't have immobilizers or kill switches as standard. I used to put my own kill switches on my motorcycles back in the 80s, 90s…just a simple switch hidden under the seat.
Ever have a fat girl riding with you fall backwards onto the street? -
2023-05-25 at 7:37 PM UTC
