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i thoughyt my starbucks was addicted but now im at panera bread company
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2023-05-08 at 11:45 PM UTCI only spent on average 15 dollars a day on green goblins and lattes , not sure how that makes me poor when it literary tastes good and is nourishment
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2023-05-08 at 11:59 PM UTCNobody in society understands VALUE
WELL THE REASON MILLENIALS ARE SO BROKE IS BECAUSWE THEY NEED THEIR TRIPLE STARBUCKS AND SEVEN NETFLIX PLUS SUBSCRIPTIONS
HAVE YOU SEEN MY STREAMING SERVICE BILL IT LOOKS LIKE A CHINESE DINNER MENU
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2023-05-09 at 12:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ecto the plasm You can save even more by investing in a home lab and learning to do your own caffeiene extractions, less water use overall too. GREEN CHEMISTRY
No you can't. A home lab and the education to know how to use it...then the required sq footage to house it (which could be put to much better and money generating use) is not a cheaper route than buying a coffee or 3. -
2023-05-09 at 12:22 PM UTCPanera food is so overpriced, though I do like their tomato basil bread.
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2023-05-09 at 12:25 PM UTCPanera bread and pastries are disgusting.
I might be biased though due to ODing on FREE unlimited Panera Bread and pastries about 20yrs ago. -
2023-05-09 at 1:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson No you can't. A home lab and the education to know how to use it…then the required sq footage to house it (which could be put to much better and money generating use) is not a cheaper route than buying a coffee or 3.
Wtf are you talking about
despite my idea of extracting caffeine DIY being retarded, it's still probably more viable and probably costs less or the same if you look at the big picture.
Home labs are an expense but it pays for itself easily if you actually use it
You could fit it in any residential home garage -
2023-05-09 at 1:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ecto the plasm You could fit it in any residential home garage
You could run a business from the same residential garage...that's how Apple and HP got started...
buy a coffee, save the space, use the space to start a multi billion company...conclusion?...buying the coffee was cheaper and smarter. -
2023-05-09 at 1:58 PM UTCNot if you are getting into the home extraction essential oil and caffeine biz
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood =/MANUFACTURING DIVISION/=
manufacturing industrial chemicals
-E-cig liquid manufacturing
Recycling old pills
making vaccines
Manufacturing paint pigments from natural and synthetic sources
making SHISHA CHARCOAL TABLETs with a machine
pastry baking
LEGAL SELF DEFENSE PEPPER SPRAY
delta 8
Water soluble Crouton powder
L cystine from human hair -
2023-05-09 at 2 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ecto the plasm Not if you are getting into the home extraction essential oil and caffeine biz
Um you didn't say you were...you clearly indicated it was for personal use.
"You can save even more by investing in a home lab and learning to do your own caffeiene extractions, less water use overall too. GREEN CHEMISTRY " -
2023-05-09 at 2 PM UTC
I still think ephedra , mormon tea , peyote , opium poppy and coca leaf should all be sold in Kcups
Kraton Kcups, call em C-cups -
2023-05-09 at 2:01 PM UTCOh and most businesses fail, especially ones entering a market that is already saturated...buying a cup of coffee is still cheaper/more efficient and cost saving.
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2023-05-09 at 2:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Um you didn't say you were…you clearly indicated it was for personal use.
"You can save even more by investing in a home lab and learning to do your own caffeiene extractions, less water use overall too. GREEN CHEMISTRY "
the reason these cost so much is not many people make consumer caffeine extracts on the market
theoretically it should be cheaper than coffee if you make it at enough scale
If someone wanted to do this they pretty much have nowhere to start besides a garage, because nobody does this.
As far as I can tell there is only a small handful of private companies that produce it for the retail market. I'm sure PAKIMAN BAYER SIGMA makes several hundred tonnes every year, or not
but they are making USP grade medicines
$12 for 100 pills seems like a scam. I bet they are just buying synthetic caffeine USP grade powder from SIGMA and running it through a pill press with the highest margins possible, which is very $ smart/retarded.
This stuff should be dirt cheap and on every shelf as an alternative to globalized slave trade coffee that nobody likes the taste of anyways.
I'm gonna look into the company more, but if i'm right and they are just making pills from caffeine powder they purchase
Then I can ruin their and many other peoples entire market control using nothing but a GIGA sized industrial theobromine plant
You could fit a lot of that into a garage , just buy 30 3neck round bottom flasks and arrange them in a semi circle, add the chemicals like a production line in each flask
It would be very dirty and crude and not ideal, but I have worked with natural derivative products in such a setting before and it's no trouble at all in a garage. You can do both personal and professional stuff in a garage
like fixing a car and having some beers with the boys
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2023-05-09 at 2:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ecto the plasm theoretically it should be cheaper than coffee if you make it at enough scale
Poor reasoning...if it's for personal use then the cost will still far out weight buying a coffee from Mcdonalds...not to mention the fact there is more to a cup of coffee than just caffeine, there is caffeine in tea..that doesn't make a cup of tea a cup of coffee.
...you'd still need coffee beans...and again, growing them is a bitch.
Your internet nerdery has failed you agian. -
2023-05-09 at 2:32 PM UTCThe human cost of child slave labor is never worth paying, which is why they don't pay them.
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson buying a cup of coffee is still cheaper/more efficient and cost saving.
It costs the water to grow it
an entire African village farming community INCLUDING THE KIDS
several multinational global enterprises
Oh look its psychoactive substances being forced to innovate backwards and instead spend their R&D on marketing and ensuring they are FAIR TRADE!!!! WE ARE LAIZZE FAIRE TRADE FUYS OMG WORLD REKNOWN
$1 cup of coffee, you are probably paying more for the cup at that point, it's pretty cheap but still too much if you ask me.
48 cups per pound of material sounds like shit, also lol those numbers
25 cents labor and handling???? FOR WHAT just make a robot do it, not some fucking african children.
CHILDREN ARE SLOW AND WEAK WHICH INCREASES THE PRODUCTION COSTS AS THEIR FRAGILE BONES ARE CRUSHED AND THEIR LIMBS AMPUTATED FROM AGRICULTURAL ACCIDENTS
The coffee industry invests in marketing and slavery, not innovation and research. -
2023-05-09 at 2:36 PM UTC
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2023-05-09 at 2:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson …you'd still need coffee beans…and again, growing them is a bitch.
Your internet nerdery has failed you agian.
This isn't much of a hurdle, I've had coffee vapes before that tasted pretty good
it had no tannins so you could tell the taste was "off" but it did taste like coffee
NATURAL AND SYNTHETIC FLAVORS LIKE AIR UP
it wouldn't be too hard to make a airup for a cup of coffee flavor NOT MADE FROM COFFEE , entirely synthetic
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-beyond-coffee-molecular-agriculture-means-your-morning-coffee-could/
Despite anything you say, I am not the first or last to think of this. It's possible to do, but the question of it being economically feasible for personal/commercial use is simply a question of better science and more research, not more marketing and stickers with moral self licensing FAIR TRADE, or different arrangements of syrups, fructoses and other sommelier influenced ideas -
2023-05-09 at 2:42 PM UTC
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2023-05-09 at 2:56 PM UTC
But now, Seattle-based Atomo has created coffee grounds in a laboratory, without the use of coffee beans. Unlike plant-based products in which existing food ingredients are used, Atomo’s coffee is, well, created.
It is molecular coffee, which includes quinic acid, dimethyl disulfide, niacin, 2-ethylphenol and a handful of other elements. The company’s process, which remains proprietary, has given the world its first synthetic coffee. It was funded by Hong Kong-based Horizon Ventures, which has also backed Impossible Foods and music-streaming service Spotify. This multimillion-dollar project is driven by the will to find sustainable solutions for one of the most popular drinks in the world.
We are at the beginning of an agricultural revolution, which draws acute attention to the true cost of bringing food to our plates. Environmental costs are becoming an increasingly important factor when shopping for food, particularly for the younger generation.
And i'm just talking out my ass over here!
writing things down on napkins, etc
My eyes started to roll, I can't read that article anymore and their Seattle facility should be bombed, fuck them and the Chinese, and "impossible" mammoth meatballs that give you prions.
I don't give a shit about ENVIRONMENTAL COSTS, I just care about costs. The idea of growing a thing in one place (Coffee, Cocaine, Sassaafras, GANJA, Opium Poppies, Chocolate, Tea, Tobacco, Khat, etc) and having to process and ship it across 14 borders is just a waste
To me it sounds like "THERE IS NO UNEMPLOYMENT IN COMMUNISM BECAUSE HALF THE WORKERS ARE DIGGING A HOLE AND THE OTHER HALF FILL IT UP EVERY DAY"
This system only works because all the spices and dyes only grow in hot places, and people that live in hot places have dark skin, therefore they should be paid less. If you didn't have to rely on a globalized agricultural system and instead every country "cooked" their own drugs synthetically including not just coffee but also ASPIRIN, AMPHETAMINES, CANCER DRUGS and OPIATES, and not ordering it all from China/India/whatever
Just because it's cheaper to pay a brown person, that's literally their only advantage is they have a limitless slave work force. I am competing with corporate slavery
all I need is ten thousands United States dollars to get this off the ground, and a garage.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-30/daraprim-nsw-students-create-drug-martin-shkreli-sold/8078892For $US20, a group of high school students has created 3.7 grams of an active ingredient used in the medicine Daraprim, which would sell in the United States for between $US35,000 and $US110,000.
Key points:
Sydney Grammar students recreate Pyrimethamine in school lab at just $20 cost
Daraprim retails in the tens of thousands in the United States
Drug used to treat parasitic infection in people with weak immune systems
Pyrimethamine, the active ingredient in Daraprim, treats a parasitic infection in people with weak immune systems such as pregnant women and HIV patients.
In August 2015, the price of Daraprim in the US rose from $US13.50 per tablet to $US750 when Turing Pharmaceuticals, and its controversial then-chief executive Martin Shkreli, acquired the drug's exclusive rights and hiked up the price.
Since then, the 17-year-olds from Sydney Grammar have worked in their school laboratory to create the drug cheaply in order to draw attention to its inflated price overseas, which student Milan Leonard said was "ridiculous". -
2023-05-09 at 3:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Poor reasoning…if it's for personal use then the cost will still far out weight buying a coffee from Mcdonalds…not to mention the fact there is more to a cup of coffee than just caffeine, there is caffeine in tea..that doesn't make a cup of tea a cup of coffee.
…you'd still need coffee beans…and again, growing them is a bitch.
Your internet nerdery has failed you agian.
Speaking fundamental I see what your say. But in the same breadth I gotta say your wrong on this one mucker -
2023-05-09 at 3:58 PM UTCseems like a way more startup friendly industry than PHARMACEUTICALS
https://www.adweek.com/creativity/coffee-so-black-its-being-marketed-and-sold-through-darknet-174271/
http://bit.ly/1nUX9E8Everything is for sale in the dark web marketplaces. Anonymous buyers can procure everything from prescription painkillers to exotic designer drugs. You can hire sex workers and buy weapons in the same exchange. Danger lurks around every corner and Satoshis flow like water while whales make it rain on encrypted Tor gambling servers.
But not everything on the dark web can kill you or bring you down. One established drug vendor has recently branched out to sell old fashioned coffee, which they say they procure directly from farmers, roast themselves, and describe in loving language that wouldn’t be out of place in an organic grocery store.
Welcome to the nicer side of the dark web, where things look more like Whole Foods than Blade Runner.
“We are all long time coffee drinkers,” said an anonyous representative of Dark Net Roasters in an online interview. “Coffee has always been our favorite caffeinated drink.”
It may be lawful to sell caffeine, but the operation is still tied up in the sale of illegal drugs. The experiment started, in fact, as a promotion by an established seller of edible cannabis products: buy a brownie or a rice crispy treat laced with THC, get a complimentary six ounce bag of coffee. The reception was positive, the representative said, and they decided to spin Dark Net Roasters off as its own entity.
“Once we realized how much everyone was enjoying our coffee it was a natural progression to want to offer them to others,” said the representative, who told me that roasting coffee started out as a hobby that they shared with family and friends.
Why sell their coffee on the dark web, where Amazon-like marketplaces can only be accessed on the anonymizing service Tor? The Dark Net Roasters representative said it was an ideological decision to avoid what they see as unnecessary red tape and oversight—and also a bid to capitalize on a population that’s already making regular purchases on the online black market.
“The Internet is inherently a disruptive technology that fosters competition and innovation,” they said. “However, with the Internet sales tax looming, net neutrality, other noncompetitive legislation and the extent of which the government has been gathering information on its citizens, the dark net and digital currencies become the instinctive solution.”
