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2023-03-18 at 3:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rape Monster Funny you should mention that, the place I get my bromazolam from offers 50 mg/ml 30 ml bottles of tianep for $50. I never cared much about chasing the opioidish high with it but it is a very effective antidepressant that works immediately. They prescribe it usually in 12.5 mg but I find 20-25 mg more suitable
I didn’t realize you could still get benzos on the clearnet. I bought like 5g of etiz years ago thinking that shit was going away and somehow managed not to ruin my life with it. Have a recommendation on a vendor? -
2023-03-18 at 5:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rape Monster Damn I tore through that last bottle of bromazolam too fast, 60 mg worth in 12 days. I usually make them last over two weeks when I get one. I ordered some flubromazepam this time, sounds more functional from what I have read and the half-life is very long so tapering wouldn't be hard.
Still love me some bromazolam but its very amnesic and quite sedating at times
I was thinking about you yesterday. A local ketamine clinic just opened, I'm not sure if it's because physicians need to be trained to prescrive ketamine but there's obviously enough depressed people that there's a big market for it. I was basically just wondering how you found it worked, pretty sure you already told me but I forget I think u might have said the effects went away quickly and they wouldn't up your dose past 64mg a day or some shit.
Anyways I've been microdosing psilocybin between .1 and .6 daily and it's really genuinely helped me and other people have noticed as well. -
2023-03-18 at 5:58 PM UTCIn Canada, they just legalized heroin and cocaine.
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2023-03-18 at 6:05 PM UTC
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2023-03-18 at 8:22 PM UTC
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2023-03-18 at 8:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny I didn’t realize you could still get benzos on the clearnet. I bought like 5g of etiz years ago thinking that shit was going away and somehow managed not to ruin my life with it. Have a recommendation on a vendor?
Try emailing jpeterson@kermitvoice.com but be careful, they're so addictive you might find yourself in a Russian comaThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-03-18 at 8:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo This is not true at all. Why is everything you type wrong?
Health Canada granted an exemption from the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act to the Province of B.C. This is effective from January 31, 2023 to January 31, 2026.
Under this exemption, adults (18 years and older) in B.C. are not arrested or charged for possessing small amounts of certain illegal drugs for personal use. The illegal drugs covered by the exemption are:
Opioids (such as heroin, morphine, and fentanyl)
Crack and powder cocaine
Methamphetamine (Meth)
MDMA (Ecstasy)
Adults found in personal possession of any combination of these illegal drugs that adds up to a combined total of 2.5 grams or less are not subject to criminal charges and the drugs are not seized. Instead, they are offered information about health and social supports. This includes support with making a referral to local treatment and recovery services, if requested.
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2023-03-18 at 9:15 PM UTCbetabrolam
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2023-03-18 at 9:20 PM UTCNe1 any decent European rc sauce? Pm
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2023-03-18 at 10:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Adults found in personal possession of any combination of these illegal drugs that adds up to a combined total of 2.5 grams or less are not subject to criminal charges and the drugs are not seized. Instead, they are offered information about health and social supports. This includes support with making a referral to local treatment and recovery services, if requested.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/overdose/decriminalization
That's not legal that's just less regulation.
I believe any regulation is wrongThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-03-18 at 10:04 PM UTC
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2023-03-19 at 2:24 AM UTC
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2023-03-19 at 2:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Health Canada granted an exemption from the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act to the Province of B.C. This is effective from January 31, 2023 to January 31, 2026.
Under this exemption, adults (18 years and older) in B.C. are not arrested or charged for possessing small amounts of certain illegal drugs for personal use. The illegal drugs covered by the exemption are:
Opioids (such as heroin, morphine, and fentanyl)
Crack and powder cocaine
Methamphetamine (Meth)
MDMA (Ecstasy)
Adults found in personal possession of any combination of these illegal drugs that adds up to a combined total of 2.5 grams or less are not subject to criminal charges and the drugs are not seized. Instead, they are offered information about health and social supports. This includes support with making a referral to local treatment and recovery services, if requested.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/overdose/decriminalization
Yeah bc made news like a year ago when they decriminalized on a trial basis but more of a non prosecution policy. It is extremely different from Canada wide legalization. -
2023-03-19 at 3:17 AM UTC
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2023-03-19 at 3:23 AM UTC
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce That's not legal that's just less regulation.
I believe any regulation is wrong
Do you think the "free market" would "fix" fentanyl or should that be legalized and controlled to only be used in a medical setting or "thug lyfe yolo 1234 everybody hit the floor?" I know which one sounds more fun -
2023-03-19 at 3:36 AM UTCNo point in killing a customer base that could easily be hooked for life and keep coming back
In a "self regulated" market in fact companies wouldn't want their competitors coming in with a shittier cheap cut toxic version undercutting them, killing their customers for a quick buck
We already have enough power as consumers to "cancel" and boycott bad actors in society/economy although instead current society relies on government over reach and uses these POWERFUL CONSUMER TOOLS AT OUR DISPOSAL to "cancel" and "deplatform" racists like Dr. Seuss!
There is no reason for government mask mandates for businesses, some people believe in it, some don't. the Consumer should have the right to choose if they want to shop at a pro/anti mask establishment.
If someone is selling a toxic drug they should be punished, cancelled by distributors, suppliers and forced out of the market BY THE MARKET instead of by some jack booted thug nazis playing moralist police WE STOP THE BAD GUY well sometimes they let the bad guy get away if they grease the right elbows, it's 99% of the time the CONSUMER the PUBLIC that identifies bad actors in the first place, and they have no option but to go to the government. -
2023-03-19 at 3:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo Do you think the "free market" would "fix" fentanyl or should that be legalized and controlled to only be used in a medical setting or "thug lyfe yolo 1234 everybody hit the floor?" I know which one sounds more fun
if all opes were legal nobody would use fent, the only reason it's so popular is because the much lower mass:dose makes ILLEGAL LOGISTICS way more profitable and forgivingThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-03-19 at 3:39 AM UTCand sometimes when you do go to the government saying "i've been fucked please help" they were either involved or do nothing but "advocate" for your cause like oh gee thanks, I got totally fucked over life ruined but at least a politician might help me some day pass a law to force the market into action
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2023-03-19 at 3:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra if all opes were legal nobody would use fent, the only reason it's so popular is because the much lower mass:dose makes ILLEGAL LOGISTICS way more profitable and forgiving
It definitely wouldn't be as popular but it's more than just regulation I think it's more of en economic factor. Having GLOBAL JUNKIES relying on poppies grown in Spain/Afghanistan or MEXICO (I doubt thats as big as they say it is) isn't really robust enough to support it, it's a wonder how the cocaine market is able to keep up.
You think it would be the other way around since opiates are so potent and people can blow through a gram of coke a night. Considering you can cut a kilo of raw heroin to very little purity and still have it "rock the block"
But synthetic drugs I think wouldn't just vanish as being able to cook up kilos from stuff from industrial byproducts that would otherwise be considered waste is eventually going to be exploited by someone and even if all they do is make some off brand shitty cheaper "feroin" people will probably still buy it, as you can likely sell it for BIG BUCKS PROFIT very cheap, and it costs nothing to make from easy to get shit.which usually just gives them more money to market whatever bullcrap a person is selling -
2023-03-19 at 3:51 AM UTCI think a big reason why fentanyl is so popular to manufacture versus other more potent opiates is because the precursors are very easily made from common industrial chemicals
The precursor used is N-Phenethyl-Piperidone (NPP) which can be easily synthesized from Piperidone and Phenethyl-tosylate or Phenethyl-bromide through a simple SN2 mechanism.The NPP is reacting with Aniline giving the Imine derivative which is reduced to the 4-Anilino-N-Phenethyl-Piperidine (4-ANPP). The 4-ANPP is then reacted with Propionyl Chloride giving Fentanyl which is then purified.
I don't know if the "4-Piperidinone " route is still the most widely used but I suspect whatever the popular production methods are probably line up a lot with chemical diversion ease. I have never seen a UN study tracking this or anything, maybe nobody has considered chem tracing fentanyl labs
That's one way they keep up with the underground is by scanning samples for impurities so if someone has traces of a broth 0.01% reduced peptones in there THEY PROBABLY BREWING SOMETHING
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