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Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
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2023-03-16 at 12:59 PM UTCHe said the drux was the most benign ever.
I found the book on amazon for 1500$
Its from 1998.
Anyone try the methods in the book to make Molly?
Can I distill some fresh sassfras from somehere?
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2023-03-16 at 1:17 PM UTCThat book is about a million years old in regards to modern methods at least when it comes to precursor.
The "precursor wars" that have gone on for the past 10+ years aren't well documented but can be learned about trying to follow the bread crimp of trails that includes zoklet flasks and beakers and some suspect was a reason it got hit so hard
To prevent information from becoming known i.e outlawed but those people are all long gone along with all the chemist underground off on the far corners of the dying internet kinda like this place m
That being said if you want to start search up HELIONAL thats where the last public record is left off but I'm sure even that's outdated by now and I actually don't know the most MODERN META but I do remember the last! -
2023-03-16 at 3:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce That book is about a million years old in regards to modern methods at least when it comes to precursor.
The "precursor wars" that have gone on for the past 10+ years aren't well documented but can be learned about trying to follow the bread crimp of trails that includes zoklet flasks and beakers and some suspect was a reason it got hit so hard
To prevent information from becoming known i.e outlawed but those people are all long gone along with all the chemist underground off on the far corners of the dying internet kinda like this place m
That being said if you want to start search up HELIONAL thats where the last public record is left off but I'm sure even that's outdated by now and I actually don't know the most MODERN META but I do remember the last!
So should I search zoklet.com on wed.archieve.com?
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2023-03-16 at 3:41 PM UTCWe have knoeledge of alchemy. What if i fix the oil first and just burb up the bark?
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2023-03-16 at 3:41 PM UTC
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2023-03-16 at 3:49 PM UTCYou want to do a total synthesis of *LIL JOHN'S LEGAL CUM* i'm gonna assume you KNOW BASIC LEB BENCH CHEMISTRY
Basically all you gotta do is find a place to get precursor, I heard on the streets it's not terrible hard in 2023 to find "cool" companies willing to send you 25kg of PMK-Glycidate mislabeled as "soap making ingredients"
I couldn't tell you the names of any specific suppliers but I have stumbled on them enough to know it's not totally impossible. They are sus as fuck if you ask me but I mean it's not like your ordering 100kg OF PHENYL-2-PROPANE and 100kg of RED PHOSPHORUS , at the very most they would just suspect you're some huge fucking nerd
or a terrorist if british, but that's actually less life ruining than you'd think or so I hear i.e you get caught with pills and a soda bottle in TEXAS you go to federal prison
You get caught with a mid stage precursor of MDMA or some grey market shit - HE'S A BLOODY TERRORIST!!! *get results back* OH WELL IT SAYS HE'S A DRUGGIE ACTUALLY!!!
unless of course you "do the deg" / live in australia then you can steam distill your own safrole from roots in the ground (I believe this is covered in TOTAL SYNTHESIS II)
yeah that's about it, ordering precursor, making it SOMEHOW or ??? idk
I've been studying MDMA precursors for over a decade and there has been next to nothing "new" discovered since the old GOOD SCENTS COOKEMUP zoklet flasks and beakers days. Mostly just better /greener less toxic ways to do current reactions with known established precursors
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood that's an old route and not a very good one
Vanillin demethylation > Catechol > Methylenation > 1,3-benzodioxole > MDP2P
the end is the real trick from 1,3-benzodioxole, but I think vanillin/eugenol can be skipped
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Smuggling MDMA is fucking retarded because literally any country could set up their own domestic production. There are so many routes to it and it's so simple to make.
There are plenty of unwatched sources of precursor to make mdp2p. The most popular being a perfume chemical called helional and PMK glycidate which is a legal analog of mdp2p
http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1007732.html
This company is an obvious scam but it's not hard to find a supplier, and it's 100% legal to import. This is what the asians do they set up a fake perfume company and order 1000kg of helional and turn it into MDMA.
The only advantage netherlands has is an established supply chain and production, there is nothing else that makes them special or better for producing MDMA than anywhere else in the world.
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2023-03-16 at 3:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by cigreting shuv it up ur as fed
2016 account, might be a copper that broke into this dudes shit but meh, this stuff is all public like I said multiple times for years now
OUT DATED OLD INFORMATION i just happen to be one of the few people with a working knowledge of it all because im A HUGE NERD
this stuff is so long forgotten about , police agencies aren't likely gonna wig out ******IF**** you get caught with 1KG OF GLICIDATE ANALOG
but if you are ordering like 100kg of it per month to the same address where you also have a lab like LITERALLY EVERY LAB THAT HAS BEEN BUSTED IN NORTH AMERICA IN THE PAST 10 YEARS than rip GG thanks for letting the super labs who can diversify their schemes of obtaining chemicals take over the market CHA CHING CHA CHING they just print it like water and could give a fuck either way -
2023-03-16 at 3:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by CutterLegendaryNinja We have knoeledge of alchemy. What if i fix the oil first and just burb up the bark?
if you can get BARK in any amount I would say about a PLANTATION worth like 100kg would yield maybe a few kilos of MDMA
or like several giant sacks of GOOD oil rich bark per ounce
but most people get like a pail full before they yeeted the dozen trees they have access to. You could likely get AN AMOUNT based on X trees . I Assumed the trick with that is YOU PLANT MORE TREES and do it like year after year and build a supply. The tree guys don't really have to buy/sell anything besides raw chemicals which they can likely easily pay for with progits
if you have trees then FUCK YOU sel the barke on the clearnet lawl -
2023-03-16 at 3:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by CutterLegendaryNinja He said the drux was the most benign ever.
I found the book on amazon for 1500$
in case anyone wants to read along
https://files.shroomery.org/cms/5897476-TotalSynthesisII.pdf -
2023-03-16 at 4:02 PM UTCyeah honestly fuck making drugs just sell the bark on a clearnet site ONLY ACCEPT CRYPTOCURRENCY once the amateur molly cooks start ordering 1000kg from you and clear your local habitat of every tree (charge them up the ass btw they will fucking pay anything) then you have $$$$$$$$$$ for very little work and can use the profit to simply buy MDMA or buy PROPER non ghetto stuff to make ityourself
that's what I woud do if I lived in such a place (but im retrded) it's not illegal to sell BARK BARK BARK RUFF -
2023-03-16 at 4:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce yeah honestly fuck making drugs just sell the bark on a clearnet site ONLY ACCEPT CRYPTOCURRENCY once the amateur molly cooks start ordering 1000kg from you and clear your local habitat of every tree (charge them up the ass btw they will fucking pay anything) then you have $$$$$$$$$$ for very little work and can use the profit to simply buy MDMA or buy PROPER non ghetto stuff to make ityourself
that's what I woud do if I lived in such a place (but im retrded) it's not illegal to sell BARK BARK BARK RUFF
Interesting 3,4-Methylenedioxyphenylpropan-2-one is Mdp2p has the same name as your PMK glycidate I looked up the wiki and ther both the same chemical...
There identical!
So I just treat it like its Mdp2p? And do the stuff in the book to it?
What is PMK glycidate made from any contaminants, like lead?
Yes, its online but it is too expensive. its like 200 a pound for frikken tree bark. -
2023-03-16 at 4:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by CutterLegendaryNinja Interesting 3,4-Methylenedioxyphenylpropan-2-one is Mdp2p has the same name as your PMK glycidate I looked up the wiki and ther both the same.
LOL YEAH shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell any government agents!!!! I think they missed one
i'm not too "hip with it" either for all I know there was a DEA crackdown on that stuff years ago, i dont keep up with the "Scene' but that was the last cool one I heard of. It's just a "legaL" analog of mdma precursor
AND YES THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE DO INSTEAD OF SAFROLE
for all I know now it's ZMK-RIceidate which is actually a fluromethyl flange analog of PMK glycidate suspended in a ion exchange resin. ??? Or AQUABEADS 2 , I am not even sure I know where to look anymore to find the current "cool kid" chinese mass order precursor but you might have luck on reddit THE HIVE
https://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/5h9vy7/is_there_a_new_the_hive_sharing_synthesis/
or BREAKING BAD FORUM I heard people there even buy/sell but its probably all a honeypot
Originally posted by CutterLegendaryNinja What is PMK glycidate made from any contaminants, like lead?
Basically you take SAFROLE aka sally the raw thing for making MDMA and you make MDp2p and then instead of making MDMA you just go JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERT and make PMK Glycidate instead and then you go JEEEEEEEEEEEEEERT to make that into something else
with the idea being what you make can be easily converted/reversed by someone else hoping to use it to make drugs
I think that's why methylone and "fake molly" was so big years ago was people were really into the idea of jeeeeerting their precursor NOW ITS LEGAL WUT NOW GOVERNMENT but they mostly fixed the laws so you don't see it much anymore NOW ALL YOU SEE IS MASS AMOUNTS OF MDMA COMING OUT FROM EVERY FUCKING PORE/PORT IN THE WORLD KEK
(i know methylone isn't even made from saferole before anyone corrects me thinking they walter white)
Originally posted by CutterLegendaryNinja Yes, its online but it is too expensive. its like 200 a pound for frikken tree bark.
YEAH THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING if you have acceess to the bark sell just that shit. There will ALWAYS Be someone willing to pay anything you charge. 200 a pound is too good of a deal, I would charge triple that just for a minimum order -
2023-03-16 at 5:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce You want to do a total synthesis of *LIL JOHN'S LEGAL CUM* i'm gonna assume you KNOW BASIC LEB BENCH CHEMISTRY
Basically all you gotta do is find a place to get precursor, I heard on the streets it's not terrible hard in 2023 to find "cool" companies willing to send you 25kg of PMK-Glycidate mislabeled as "soap making ingredients"
I couldn't tell you the names of any specific suppliers but I have stumbled on them enough to know it's not totally impossible. They are sus as fuck if you ask me but I mean it's not like your ordering 100kg OF PHENYL-2-PROPANE and 100kg of RED PHOSPHORUS , at the very most they would just suspect you're some huge fucking nerd
or a terrorist if british, but that's actually less life ruining than you'd think or so I hear i.e you get caught with pills and a soda bottle in TEXAS you go to federal prison
You get caught with a mid stage precursor of MDMA or some grey market shit - HE'S A BLOODY TERRORIST!!! *get results back* OH WELL IT SAYS HE'S A DRUGGIE ACTUALLY!!!
unless of course you "do the deg" / live in australia then you can steam distill your own safrole from roots in the ground (I believe this is covered in TOTAL SYNTHESIS II)
yeah that's about it, ordering precursor, making it SOMEHOW or ??? idk
I've been studying MDMA precursors for over a decade and there has been next to nothing "new" discovered since the old GOOD SCENTS COOKEMUP zoklet flasks and beakers days. Mostly just better /greener less toxic ways to do current reactions with known established precursors z
helional
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2023-03-16 at 5:16 PM UTCYeah don't tell the government oh wait they have known for like 10 years & just gave up on the underground drug cook scene by that point as it was essentially dead and has only died more since then
I half heardetly believe you can order 100kg of that and nobody would have a clue why you wanted it
Thank the Wizards at ZOKLET and the HIVE we still building off their backs lmao maybe some day another method will be found and made public and accessible but nobody cares anymore about that kind of research -
2023-03-16 at 5:42 PM UTC
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2023-03-16 at 5:54 PM UTC
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2023-03-16 at 6 PM UTCThey deleted the PMK from aliabia but its seems to be avaible these random websites that I never heard of.
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2023-03-16 at 6:17 PM UTCYeah I figure Alibaba probably clamped down on that years ago
Im not sure how much their industrial scientific chemical market changed now that they are a much bigger core company if that means more/less security
I would probably start from there though. There might be a new thing everyone uses/orders and it's usually not wideley publicized and changes every few years so you gotta keep up with it if you want to order the 1-allyl-benzene analog of safrole or whatever everyone uses in 2023
And by everyone I mean the several hundred not thousands of people that order it. The market is small enough that the happy Asian sell you drug chemical factories know how to reach their most likely buyers
I have never been able to find a reliable chink in all my years of looking which is why I skitzo DIY everything
But yeah maybe Reddit or breaking bad' forum knows the hop hip chemicals. Idk if HELIONAL can be found easily I assume it's either dead/watched
HELIONAL /. Gylcidate are probably black listed burned nobody uses terms anymore. There was another -3letter-gylcidate before PMK-GLYCIDATE was used , I can't remember what exactly and it wasn't around very long for various reasons.
When in doubt just c -
2023-03-16 at 6:18 PM UTCBasically if you want to find a cool company on Alibaba you find one willing to sell you a sample and have it "labelled as"
It could be a Chinese honey pot , no way to know really but I seriously doubt they care about anyone making less than 1lb -
2023-03-16 at 7:17 PM UTCThese supliers are all in china...
We will be using helional... its everywhere.
But its an analoge how do we make it into MDA
