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Georgia must not submit to Russia

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    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    "April 9 tragedy

    Georgia 1989 and Georgia 2023. The same aim. The same fight. For freedom, independence and Europe. Against russia! Georgia will win! 🇬🇪

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    Bradley Black Hole
    Isn't georgia run by that gorboshenkov or something iirc, where he's a pawn of putin, do you really think putin will be removed from power at any point before his natural death?

    PUtin postures as neostalin, i'm not sure if his hand is anywhere near as heavy, but i don't think georgia's government will ever change
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Bradley Isn't georgia run by that gorboshenkov or something iirc, where he's a pawn of putin, do you really think putin will be removed from power at any point before his natural death?

    PUtin postures as neostalin, i'm not sure if his hand is anywhere near as heavy, but i don't think georgia's government will ever change

    Western media is calling the Georgian government 'pro-Russian', in reality there hasn't been much of a 'pro-Russian' element since before the war in 2008. They're just profoundly corrupt and willing to take money from anyone; they're doing the multi-vector thing.

    What they're rioting about at the moment is a new law that forces NGOs to disclose their funding, specifically foreign funding and any of them that take more than 20% from foreign sources go on a FOREIGN AGENTS list. The media is saying it's almost the same as the Russian foreign agent laws that came in a few years back, which it is, but it's also very close to the US FARA designation system.

    Pretty much just western NGOs whipping up unrest because these laws threaten their influence, a lot like the 2014 riots in the Ukraine
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    Bradley Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra Western media is calling the Georgian government 'pro-Russian', in reality there hasn't been much of a 'pro-Russian' element since before the war in 2008. They're just profoundly corrupt and willing to take money from anyone; they're doing the multi-vector thing.

    What they're rioting about at the moment is a new law that forces NGOs to disclose their funding, specifically foreign funding and any of them that take more than 20% from foreign sources go on a FOREIGN AGENTS list. The media is saying it's almost the same as the Russian foreign agent laws that came in a few years back, which it is, but it's also very close to the US FARA designation system.

    Pretty much just western NGOs whipping up unrest because these laws threaten their influence, a lot like the 2014 riots in the Ukraine

    wow thanks for explaining that to me aldra
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    there are also protests/riots against proposed laws that increase the mandatory military service period but those are being dwarfed by the ones against the foreign agent laws; some outlets are reporting up to 100k turnout
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    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    putain's decision to invade peaceful and sovereign Ukraine is easily the worst political decision of the 21st century (easily outdistancing the US's catastrophically stupid decision to invade Iraq).

    invading countries is a 19th century game that brings no benefits in the 21st

    get with the times russia or stay mired in backwardness and poverty and ignorance...
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    Instigator Space Nigga
    Originally posted by Wariat putain's decision to invade peaceful and sovereign Ukraine is easily the worst political decision of the 21st century (easily outdistancing the US's catastrophically stupid decision to invade Iraq).

    invading countries is a 19th century game that brings no benefits in the 21st

    get with the times russia or stay mired in backwardness and poverty and ignorance…

    And paedophilia.
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    Bradley Black Hole
    why are average people so interested? bro we've had major turn out in our major cities only twice while i've been alive, the Black Lives Matter protests & the 1% (briefly) movement,

    I don't see what makes these people so interested in protesting and walking in the streets and stirring social unrest in the cities because NGOs have to disclose where they are funded from?
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    Bradley Black Hole
    Originally posted by Wariat putain's decision to invade peaceful and sovereign Ukraine is easily the worst political decision of the 21st century (easily outdistancing the US's catastrophically stupid decision to invade Iraq).

    invading countries is a 19th century game that brings no benefits in the 21st

    get with the times russia or stay mired in backwardness and poverty and ignorance…

    i think the worse decision in the 21st century was when you asked those two cops 'hey have fuys seen any 13 year olds' while they were looking for you
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Bradley why are average people so interested? bro we've had major turn out in our major cities only twice while i've been alive, the Black Lives Matter protests & the 1% (briefly) movement,

    I don't see what makes these people so interested in protesting and walking in the streets and stirring social unrest in the cities because NGOs have to disclose where they are funded from?

    NGOs like the NED (which was officially created to replace the CIA for soft power) are tasked with creating 'grassroots' networks and activism groups that are meant to change public perception... it's what all that funding is for.

    the narrative that they're disseminating here seems to be that the government is secretly controlled by Russia and that the new laws are meant to 'destroy democracy' or whatever series of buzzwords it is they're peddling at the moment - that the NGOs represent democracy and prosperity under attack. in a post-soviet country where nobody trusts the government to start with, it's probably not hard to mobilise them.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Bradley i think the worse decision in the 21st century was when you asked those two cops 'hey have fuys seen any 13 year olds' while they were looking for you

    reminds me of that joke -

    a policeman pulls over a car with two Polacks in it, he points the flashlight at them and says "license and registration please, we're looking for two paedophiles"

    they hand over their licenses, pause for a moment and respond "we'll do it"
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    Bradley Black Hole
    THat made me laugh.
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    Bradley Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra NGOs like the NED (which was officially created to replace the CIA for soft power) are tasked with creating 'grassroots' networks and activism groups that are meant to change public perception… it's what all that funding is for.

    the narrative that they're disseminating here seems to be that the government is secretly controlled by Russia and that the new laws are meant to 'destroy democracy' or whatever series of buzzwords it is they're peddling at the moment - that the NGOs represent democracy and prosperity under attack. in a post-soviet country where nobody trusts the government to start with, it's probably not hard to mobilise them.

    Do the NGOs give them anything worthwhile or not really? How often do their elections go? are they fair in the world's opinion?
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    as for the kind of corruption -



    ex-Georgian president Mikhail Skaashvili

    tripled the GDP but increased the number of people in poverty
    kicked off the 2008 war by attacking Russian peacekeepers in separatists regions, thinking Russia wouldn't do anything about it and NATO would back him (both wrong)
    was meant to be prosecuted in 2014 for corruption, embezzlement etc. but fled the country
    after the 2014 Ukraine coup he was appointed to a bunch of government posts there and later appointed (not elected) governor of Odessa
    literally chased out of Odessa for corruption and graft
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Bradley Do the NGOs give them anything worthwhile or not really? How often do their elections go? are they fair in the world's opinion?

    depends on which ones and who you ask I guess

    typically they're used as soft power to promote causes, ideologies and initiatives that their benefactors want (ie. US-backed ones like NED, USAID etc will push US foreign policy, whereas Soros-backed ones push general globalist ideology), but they wouldn't survive if they weren't attractive to at least some of the local population. they tend to operate by finding and taking advantage of social fractures, for example advocacy, funding and legal services for feminists and homosexicals in Iran or anti-Russian and anti-Soviet causes in Eastern Europe
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    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    Never submit Never give in Georgia.
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    Bradley Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra depends on which ones and who you ask I guess

    typically they're used as soft power to promote causes, ideologies and initiatives that their benefactors want (ie. US-backed ones like NED, USAID etc will push US foreign policy, whereas Soros-backed ones push general globalist ideology), but they wouldn't survive if they weren't attractive to at least some of the local population. they tend to operate by finding and taking advantage of social fractures, for example advocacy, funding and legal services for feminists and homosexicals in Iran or anti-Russian and anti-Soviet causes in Eastern Europe

    how do these fringe companies get set up and receive hundreds of millions of dollars to push these narratives isn't this shit dangerous like why would they let companies do this shit to their nation when they can just hire people to kill people for a fraction of the money?

    is the world really like that?
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    Originally posted by Bradley why are average people so interested? bro we've had major turn out in our major cities only twice while i've been alive, the Black Lives Matter protests & the 1% (briefly) movement,

    I don't see what makes these people so interested in protesting and walking in the streets and stirring social unrest in the cities because NGOs have to disclose where they are funded from?

    because humans are pack animals.

    if a bunch of people see a group of people do something with excitement, they are going to be exicted into doing the same thing.

    very much like dogs, is a dog starts to attack you, it will draw the entire pack to attack you. if a dog however, started to lick you, the entire pack will be drawn into a licking frenzy and started to lick you everywhere.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    bill withdrawn, faggots win this one
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