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World to hit temperature tipping point 10 years faster than forecast
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2022-11-27 at 2:46 PM UTCIn 60 years I've seen our winters go from fairly cold to mild with cold snaps. Overall I believe the sun has the biggest effect on our climate.
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2022-11-27 at 3:56 PM UTCEvidence Shows That Current Global Warming Cannot Be Explained by Solar Irradiance
The above graph compares global surface temperature changes (red line) and the Sun's energy that Earth receives (yellow line) in watts (units of energy) per square meter since 1880. The lighter/thinner lines show the yearly levels while the heavier/thicker lines show the 11-year average trends. Eleven-year averages are used to reduce the year-to-year natural noise in the data, making the underlying trends more obvious.
The amount of solar energy that Earth receives has followed the Sun’s natural 11-year cycle of small ups and downs with no net increase since the 1950s. Over the same period, global temperature has risen markedly. It is therefore extremely unlikely that the Sun has caused the observed global temperature warming trend over the past half-century.
Since 1750, the average amount of energy from the Sun either remained constant or increased slightly.
If a more active Sun caused the warming, scientists would expect warmer temperatures in all layers of the atmosphere. Instead, they have observed a cooling in the upper atmosphere and a warming at the surface and lower parts of the atmosphere. That's because greenhouse gases are slowing heat loss from the lower atmosphere.
Climate models that include solar irradiance changes can’t reproduce the observed temperature trend over the past century or more without including a rise in greenhouse gases.
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2022-11-27 at 4:17 PM UTCYesterday it was raining. Today it's sunny. Let's call it climate change.
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2022-11-27 at 4:20 PM UTCA Million Migrating Birds Expecting Kansas Wetlands Will Find Dust
Large sections of Kansas that are usually green and lush are bone-dry due to drought, which is expected to have an impact on many species of birds that migrate through the area.
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2022-11-27 at 4:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe A Million Migrating Birds Expecting Kansas Wetlands Will Find Dust
What the article dishonestly omits is that Kansas has had draughts long before now, and this one is not the worst it has seen. -
2022-11-27 at 4:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Yesterday it was raining. Today it's sunny. Let's call it climate change.
• weather [ weth-er ]
noun
the state of the atmosphere with respect to wind, temperature, cloudiness, moisture, pressure, etc.
• climate [ klahy-mit ]
noun
the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years. -
2022-11-27 at 4:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox • weather [ weth-er ]
noun
the state of the atmosphere with respect to wind, temperature, cloudiness, moisture, pressure, etc.
• climate [ klahy-mit ]
noun
the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years.
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2022-11-27 at 4:35 PM UTC
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2022-11-27 at 4:37 PM UTC
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2022-11-27 at 5:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ You missed the title: "ACTUAL Climate Change Pronouncements."
Every single one of those statements are out of context and not representative of the original statement's meaning. I'll just pick one at random, 1989 "nations will be wiped off the map by 2000"
This is referencing a statement made by Noel Brown, regional director of the UN Environmental Programme at the time (not a climate scientist himself), in 1989. The statement attributed in the cartoon is not accurate, what was said was "entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000."
Not that it would happen BY 2000. Whenever climate change deniers reference statements like this to debunk the science of climate change, they're failing to understand that these dates and time frames they're talking about aren't some kind of doomsday clock where the apocalypse happens when they expire. Carbon that gets trapped in the atmosphere can linger there for decades or centuries and migrate to different parts of the atmosphere over time so the effects are cumulative and it may take many years before the actual impacts are felt. But modeling those impacts is just simple chemistry and physics. You take the known thermal properties of carbon, the known amount of carbon we are putting out, and plug in the known qualities of our atmosphere and the energy input from the sun, and you get a model of climate change. Climate is complicated and these models aren't perfect but even when you look at a range from the most optimistic outcomes to the most alarmist possibilities, even the milder scenarios will be devastating for the world.
I don't believe even in the worst case that this is an existential threat to humanity but it will certainly cause trillions of dollars of damage to the economy and likely a very significant loss of life around the world. Prove me wrong using any kind of logic or evidence, not cartoons and memes. You can't. -
2022-11-27 at 5:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Evidence Shows That Current Global Warming Cannot Be Explained by Solar Irradiance
https://niggasin.space/thread/68616?p=35#post-1608645
i didnt know they have electronic solar irradiation measuring instruments back in 1880s. -
2022-11-27 at 5:14 PM UTC
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2022-11-27 at 5:14 PM UTCarguing about the culprit of climate changes is just like arguing about the hohocause.
tards are gonna want to believe humans caused it as much as they wanna believe hitler killed all those jews. -
2022-11-27 at 5:16 PM UTC
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2022-11-28 at 1:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Every single one of those statements are out of context and not representative of the original statement's meaning. I'll just pick one at random, 1989 "nations will be wiped off the map by 2000"
This is referencing a statement made by Noel Brown, regional director of the UN Environmental Programme at the time (not a climate scientist himself), in 1989. The statement attributed in the cartoon is not accurate, what was said was "entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000."
Not that it would happen BY 2000. Whenever climate change deniers reference statements like this to debunk the science of climate change, they're failing to understand that these dates and time frames they're talking about aren't some kind of doomsday clock where the apocalypse happens when they expire. Carbon that gets trapped in the atmosphere can linger there for decades or centuries and migrate to different parts of the atmosphere over time so the effects are cumulative and it may take many years before the actual impacts are felt. But modeling those impacts is just simple chemistry and physics. You take the known thermal properties of carbon, the known amount of carbon we are putting out, and plug in the known qualities of our atmosphere and the energy input from the sun, and you get a model of climate change. Climate is complicated and these models aren't perfect but even when you look at a range from the most optimistic outcomes to the most alarmist possibilities, even the milder scenarios will be devastating for the world.
I don't believe even in the worst case that this is an existential threat to humanity but it will certainly cause trillions of dollars of damage to the economy and likely a very significant loss of life around the world. Prove me wrong using any kind of logic or evidence, not cartoons and memes. You can't.
The science is settled!!
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2022-11-28 at 1:11 PM UTC
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2022-11-28 at 4:49 PM UTC
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2022-11-28 at 7:12 PM UTCCOP27 continues the climate summit ritual of words without action
This has become, sadly, a yearly ritual by now. The world’s governments gather together to discuss what should be done about global warming, and finish their time together by issuing statements of concern while doing little concrete to actually solve the problem. And so it is with COP27.
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2022-11-28 at 9:57 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
