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HOW US NAVY PLANS TO PRODUCE JET FUEL FROM SEAWATER ON-BOARD THE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
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2022-10-26 at 3:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ They've been hiding efficient hydrogen extraction engines for decades. And its exhaust is nothing but clean water particles, giving back to the ecosystem. Every single car could have been running on water for pennies for the past 70 years, but they concealed it all, just so their buddies in the coal, fossil fuel and nuclear corporations could make a killing. And they even have the nerve to call this entirely criminal deception a matter of national security. Make no mistake. These are the enemies of mankind. Traitors to the human race. Minions of Satan the Devil himself.
It was National Security because at the time of the Invention their excuse was it would have killed Oil Rigger Jobs and those who export, import Oil. Ships, trucks, Trains would have lost huge amount of contract money which would of aided to the depression and dust bowl -
2022-10-26 at 8:37 AM UTCor just use like oars and sails and shitThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-10-26 at 2:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ They've been hiding efficient hydrogen extraction engines for decades. And its exhaust is nothing but clean water particles, giving back to the ecosystem. Every single car could have been running on water for pennies for the past 70 years, but they concealed it all, just so their buddies in the coal, fossil fuel and nuclear corporations could make a killing. And they even have the nerve to call this entirely criminal deception a matter of national security. Make no mistake. These are the enemies of mankind. Traitors to the human race. Minions of Satan the Devil himself.
What happens in 200 years when we've burned 20% of the earth's water? It's not renewable. -
2022-10-26 at 4:23 PM UTC
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2022-10-26 at 7:17 PM UTC
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2022-10-26 at 9:34 PM UTCit evaporates and returns however the regions you remove seawater and return the salt will create pockets of over salted regions near mostly coastlines and this could cause a domino effect since much of the reef is near coastal regions. i dont know what percent of fish and aquatic food sources exist near coast vs deep water but my guess is it is a huge percentage and might have a super negative effect on climate and ecology.
so have fun with that natural energy source. the green people might destroy earth much faster than the fossil fuels which takes a few hundred years for earth to remove from the surface and no longer be a harm. -
2022-10-26 at 9:36 PM UTCWe will have to dump salt in different deep depths of the ocean into currents in order to redistribute it and hope it doesnt have an ill effect on aquatic life.
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2022-10-27 at 2:13 AM UTC
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2022-10-27 at 2:53 AM UTC
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2022-10-27 at 2:54 AM UTC
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2022-10-27 at 5:02 AM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Electrolysis works with both fresh and salt water.
No shit Sherlock. But fresh water is replenished part by evaporation and precipitation. When salt water evaporates the salt stays behind. When that evaporated water falls back to earth it does so as fresh water. Even if you used only salt water you would be destroying that water forever with just a fraction of it being being returned to the environment in the firm of exhaust. So again, in however long (100, 200, 300 years or whatever) when 20% of the earth's H2O has been destroyed then what? -
2022-10-27 at 8:27 AM UTCSo what..they are just gonna make hydrogen from sea water and use that hydrogen to make 'fuel'? What kinda fuel are we talking here? Ill read the article after work but i liked scrons post too
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2022-10-27 at 8:33 AM UTC"The carbon dioxide obtained by degassing is then fed to a reactor with hydrogen to produce hydrocarbons, such as jet fuels."
Now i see..this is awesome
Page 7 of their patent thing is the most detailed..im gonna try to read the text portion of it after work...now whatd be really cool is just using the hydrogen str8 to power shit not converting it to hydrocarbons for jet fuel -
2022-10-27 at 9:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by RIPtotse So what..they are just gonna make hydrogen from sea water and use that hydrogen to make 'fuel'? What kinda fuel are we talking here? Ill read the article after work but i liked scrons post too
using electrolysis to split water into hydrogen and oxygen has been around for a long time, but it uses more power to actually split the elements than you would get from burning the hydrogen. it's been proposed as a way to store electrical energy from sources like home solar panels.
the core of this seems to be that a ship's nuclear power plant generates enough excess power so as to make the process worthwhile, butA recent article looks at the feasibility of using seawater and nuclear power to synthesize jet fuel. [5] The entire process could take place at sea (e.g., on an aircraft carrier or a dedicated fuel-producing ship). In such a process, carbon (in the form of CO2) is removed from the ocean, and hydrogen is produced by electrolysis. From here, jet fuel can be synthesized through a Fischer-Tropsch process. (The Fischer-Tropsch process is very old, having been used by the Germans in World War II to make liquid fuels from coal.) [6] It is claimed that, with 200 megawatts of continuous power and a supply of seawater, 82,000 gallons of jet fuel could be created per day; from above, this translates to an efficiency of about 66%. At an estimated cost–assuming efficient carbon-capture from seawater–of $3-$6/gal, this is somewhat higher than existing jet fuel costs. However, the associated logistics of getting fuel to an aircraft carrier are circumvented, making this technology very appealing from a tactical standpoint.
this assumes you're using the entire 200MW output of the nuclear reactor for the process; it doesn't take into account how much power the ship requires to function even when it's not in motion.
also, I haven't looked enough at the 'Fischer-Tropsch' process to know specifics but you can't convert hydrogen or dihydrogen directly into jet fuel either - it requires catalysts and other chemicals which will limit how much jet fuel can be synthesized at sea.
in short it's not about clean or unlimited energy, it's about using the excess power generated by a nuclear reactor to feed this chemical process and all the data given is under absolutely ideal circumstances. it's an interesting concept but I'd doubt it's practicalThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-10-27 at 1:46 PM UTC
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2022-10-27 at 1:58 PM UTC
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2022-10-27 at 2:01 PM UTC
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2022-10-27 at 2:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra using electrolysis to split water into hydrogen and oxygen has been around for a long time, but it uses more power to actually split the elements than you would get from burning the hydrogen….
That statement assumes the people stating it are telling the truth, which is highly unlikely. -
2022-10-27 at 2:58 PM UTC
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2022-10-27 at 3:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Hydrogen is the fuel
No...they are using hydrogen to make hydrocarbons for jet fuel manufacture apparently.
I like the idea though and the fact that they are working on it, pretty much means the process will be mastered in a matter of time and hopefully a thing or 2 is learned along the way.
Honestly if they are releasing this info though they can probably do 20x what they are telling us.
Their tech is about 15-50 ish years advanced then what we got.
